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Lets all get real!,
This review is from: Chinese Democracy (Audio CD)
Ok, guys lets all get a bit real here.
Lets look at reviews like this.
1 star - poor - will get played once or twice before relegated to the back of your collection to attract dust. A coupla good songs at most
2 stars - average - 3 or 4 good songs but some very disapointing moments let the album down. You may find yourslef burning the highlights onto your MP3 player or compilation discs
3 stars - above average but not classed as good - some great moments, some good and some filler. Will get played regularly but you will always know its not a classic
4 stars - good effort - lots of great moments, the odd filler but still great
5 stars - excellent album - no fillers, just good songs all the way through, some excellent moments, enough to keep you playing this over and over year after year.
Well presuming that AFD is a 5 star effort, where is Chinese Democracy? 2? 3? 4? Never a 5 surely? Depending on your point of view it may be 2, 3 or 4, but not one fan could put their hand on their heart and say this is a 5 star release.
There are some great songs on here, there really are - I wont review each track here - but its true that there are songs here that could of graced AFD. However there are some weak moments, but that is predicatable when considered with the revolving band member policy. The sound quality isnt great GNR always sound messy to me - but i guess they want that kind of sound, and some of the vocals are a little uncomfortable to live with, but we should be used to that by now.
After the delays, the hyperbole and legend that GNR was, this was always going to be a tough release, but I gotta say, with MY hand on MY heart, I enjoyed this album, perhaps even more than the Illusion albums, where having to wade through the rubbish to get to the gems gets a little tiring.
Its good, get it, enjoy it, just dont think it will be AFD2 - it aint...
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Initial post: 26 Nov 2008 19:29:16 GMT
A customer says:
Finally some one with some sense! I use the same rating scale as you!!!!! This is a 3 star album. It has some good songs on it but it is far from a classic.
In reply to an earlier post on 20 Feb 2009 10:26:27 GMT
Cheers Mate - dont you just hate it when every album is 5 stars!!!!
In reply to an earlier post on 13 Sep 2013 13:26:51 BDT
Meaty Man says:
You people, seriously! Would you seriosly be happy to hear AFD2? It speaks volumes about people and their musical ignorance. Sure if you love metal, thats fine but why do people wanna hear the same album repeated again and again? and this is why music today is garbage.If musicians had the same attitude as you then wouldnt have expanding musical genres. Music has to evolve and change, what is the point in AFD2? How would Axl go about doing that without ANY of the origional members from gnr? And why would he bother? Small minded and ignorant.
In reply to an earlier post on 18 Feb 2014 10:49:10 GMT
GNR never 'evolve' though, they are what they ae, a kick ass rock and roll band. Songs from this AFD, UYU 1 and 2 are basic no frills rock and roll. If the songs are great there is no need to evolve - look at ACDC, classic band, classic albums, no one critises them for banging out the same old tunes. The problem with Chinese Democ, is the songs are in the main pretty poo...
In reply to an earlier post on 18 Feb 2014 12:50:22 GMT
Last edited by the author on 18 Feb 2014 12:53:11 GMT
Meaty Man says:
I wouldn't say appetite is ANYTHING like uyu 1 & 2!?! Even the band complained when axl introduced a piano in the mix! Two very different styles there most fans of guns would testify to this. I love both appetite and uyu but two VERY different styles here. Elton John being a huge influence on axl for the uyu albums and I think lots of guns "fans" lost interest. So I think evolution WAS high on the agenda here, not a bad thing for ANY band.
In reply to an earlier post on 25 May 2014 12:02:41 BDT
Apart from November Rain, and a few token others there is very little piano, but there is a very hearty amount of stuff that sound very GNR - Get in the Ring, Garden of Eden, Bad Apples, etc. Granted there a few attempts at breaking the mould - Estranged, November Rain, Coma, but to these ears, its pretty formulaic.
I am first to applaud artists evolving, some do it well, Kate Bush, and others do it horrifically - Queen, others just evolve into different bands entirely - Rush, Anathema, but others just plod on - ACDC, 5 finger death punch, Slayer, and Guns and Roses.
You say about 2 VERY different styles, may I suggest the following examples of bands really changing - Metallica Kill Em all to Metallica Load....
Rush 2112 to Rush Power Windows
Queen Night at the Opera to Queen Hot Space
Listen to any of the above, then AFD and UYU, and you will see it GNR haven't really evolved very far...
Nothing wrong in that though, I love bands who stick to formula too - Judas Priest, ACDC, Oasis, but just pointing out that youre very wrong in stating how much GNR evolved, They only moved a small amount compared to others I've mentioned here...
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