2 of 2 people found the following review helpful
Solid Fear Factory,
This review is from: The Industrialist [Limited Digipack] (Audio CD)
The first four songs on this album are outstanding, particuarly the choruses - For me this is the most rewarding aspect of the LP - Burton really shines here with his typical clean sung choruses. They are memorable, melodic and slightly haunting. Also, Rhys Fulber has done an amazing job with his atmospherics and samples - in places he has added some new touches that haven't really been featured on an FF record before. E.g on 'new messiah' and 'god eater' - his melodies on top of the verse/chorus breaks are eerie and give a completely different feel to a typical FF song.
The major let down for me is the drums. You can tell they were programmed, and a lot of the beats are completely uninspired. Yes of course FF is supposed to have that robotic sound but at the end of the day we're talking music here, and it needs a human touch. I suppose they did this to cut down on owner/royalty costs? To be honest i can appreciate that given todays musical earnings.
As i said the first four songs are outstanding, however it seems that the remaining four get weaker and weaker, and then, we are left with 13 minutes of industrial sound scapes??!! I admit i have just downloaded the tracks off of Itunes and do not have the actual CD disk and so i have not followed the whole 'concept' thing with the booklet - maybe that makes a difference, to appreciate the 13 minutes of crap?
A side note about Dino - some of the riffs here are a bit juvenile and bring nothing new to the table. This is especially true for filler riffs between chrouses and verses. Also, the chorus to 'the industrialist' - thats pure cheese to me!
If you are an avid FF fan the first four songs alone make the purchase worth it. The other four songs don't suck as such, they just aint nothing special. Sonically this album is most similiar to obselete, which for me, is a bloody good thing. I think Mechanize beats this album a little, but not much. Buy it!!!
Tracked by 2 customers
Sort: Oldest first | Newest first
Showing 1-10 of 11 posts in this discussion
Initial post: 16 Jun 2012 10:56:02 BDT
i agree with most of the review but i think the drum machines (programmed) are fine. it gives the album a very industrial sound similar to songs like Pure by Godflesh which is enhanced because of the machines. End of the day is FF are an industrial band and anything they can do to give it that feel is required. the drums are much faster and heavier which makes this album stand out, although overrall having an actual drummer in most cases is better, with FF the Indus its a project, similar to Godflesh, 2 guys who make the magic. in this case, dino and bell.
In reply to an earlier post on 18 Jun 2012 09:07:18 BDT
L. Browning says:
Afraid i am not familiar with godflesh. The problem i had with the drums was not how they sounded - but how they were arranged/composed. The beats were a bit predictable in some places and i just think with a real drummer there could have been some better drumming. Thanks for the feedback!
In reply to an earlier post on 18 Jun 2012 09:34:28 BDT
i think the drums are very well presented in the industrialist, although i can see why a real drummer would be preffered, look at how awesome their previous albums are. Burt agreed for programs due to time issues and that it was just him and Dino working but many industrial bands use machines, godflesh, pitchshifter etc, so i dont think its an unusual thing for FF to use them, in this type of music anyway, just because this is the first album so far to use them, this album stands out because of it.
In reply to an earlier post on 30 Jul 2012 13:36:53 BDT
Godflesh, Godflesh, Godflesh...Is that all you ever talk about?
In reply to an earlier post on 30 Jul 2012 19:35:39 BDT
actually the reason i have been mentioned them (as well as Pitchshifter if you read) is because they are prime examples of true industrial metal bands who use drum machines. A majority of FF fans (probably never heard any other industrial bands) dont seem to understand that while choosing to use machines instead of an actual drummer might seem a bit uncharacteristic for FF, they are industrial metal after all, thus the decision is actually a postive one in my opinion because some of the best indust bands use machines (GF and PS actually influenced FF), so mentioning them is relevent. It just seems to take a lot longer for people like you to understand where I'm coming from.
In reply to an earlier post on 3 Aug 2012 12:38:06 BDT
Okay, nice little dig there, but I can overlook that.
For starters, Fear Factory have always had Raymond on drums, whilst Gene was present on 'Mechanize'. To me it was a bit of an odd move, but it worked really well for the album, people might not like but there you go.
In reply to an earlier post on 3 Aug 2012 17:05:59 BDT
you talk the talk but can you walk the walk?
In reply to an earlier post on 3 Aug 2012 17:56:17 BDT
Last edited by the author on 3 Aug 2012 17:58:36 BDT
Yeah I do agree, I also feel that they should have got Christian back on bass instead of Devires but that's just my opinion.
I think FF suit a drummer, especially someone who's been a core member of the band since the early days, but my point is its not all bad and it works having programmed drums because its common in industrial metal and gives it a different and systematic sound. But overall for FF as an individual band Raymond on drums would have been better.
In reply to an earlier post on 3 Aug 2012 18:30:17 BDT
I don't know what you're referring to.
In reply to an earlier post on 3 Aug 2012 18:32:20 BDT
Yes, but Ray or Christian wanted no part of Fear Factory now that Dino was back due to the issues of their short hiatus a few years back.
Definitely they do, even listening to Mike Heller perform live its a shame that that he wasn't on the album (even playing better than Ray did) but sometimes a few years Fear Factory change and evolve, and even though I love The Industrialist now, when I first listened to it I was a bit "ehhh"