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Just another masterpiece - what more can you say?,
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This review is from: Ponyo [2 Disc Edition] [DVD] (DVD)
Some of the scenes where Hayao just loosely hand-draws the whole screen, with a few scribbles, are beyond belief.
The "sense of water" is unprecedented - amazing.
This is Art -- in an age with very little Art.
it's difficult to overstate how astonishing this is ... the works of Miyazaki are, really, like the ouvre of Shakespeare for our times.
(BTW, bizarrely the FRENCH version of Ponyo has already been available, in France, for months! It's great!)
Something to consider - simply watch the film IN JAPANESE. It's not that there's anything wrong with the English version, but, the film is so incredibly ... operatic .. like an animation "tone poem" that it's almost better if you are not distracted by ANY language. (It could be a wordless film...the incredible music only)
As you probably know already, this is Miyazaki for the youngest viewers. It is absolutely perfect from age 2 onwards!
I played it literally three (3) times in a row nonstop the first time...from the first frame onwards it is breathtaking. You just sit there with your mouth open.
The scenes that are already famous are breathless, the most amazing animation ever, the greatest expression of joie de vivre certainly in any film output, perhaps in any artform for a century or two. Staggering.
The only question is, can Hayao do ANYTHING, EVER to top this??
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Initial post: 26 Apr 2010 21:40:40 BDT
thanks for letting me know this is in Japanese - the charm of these films is lost with the harshness of a western voiceover.
In reply to an earlier post on 28 May 2010 16:43:18 BDT
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Bertie Buggerington says:
Absolute tosh....the charm is lost? That is a great discredit to some of the wonderful actors who have lent their voices to Ghibli conversions over the years. I've watched all the Miyazaki masterpieces in both languages several times over - I choose depending on my mood and how tired I am...as often I can fall asleep reading subs if I've had a busy day. All the actors have done themselves proud...English and Japanese. And let me tell you, you don't know what charm *is* until you've heard the wonderful Fanning sisters' (Dakota and Elle) voicework as Satsuki and Mei on the English translation of My Neighbour Totoro. To consider it harsh would be insane.
However, the fact you never knew Ponyo was even Japanese, let alone one of the last great works of Studio Ghibli's Miyazaki makes me think I should consider your comment a throwaway one from someone trying to be trendy and purist. Let me be clear, "I prefer listening to the Japanese track" would have been a wholly different comment, and one I would have ignored....but "the harshness of a western voiceover"....do me a favour! How possibly could you ever consider Liam Neeson's beautiful, subtle Irish tones harsh, for example? Also, the comedy of Billy Crystal's Calcifer in Howl's Moving Castle would be lost if you weren't fluent in Japanese. Just like you often can't tell if someone is trying to be humorous in written word on a forum, for example. You really need to hear it in your own tongue at least once - perhaps then you will get the comedy from the Japanese voice actor.
It's also not even like a voice dubbing on these hand drawn look anime movies has that absurd look that you get on live action movies, which do require listening to in the native language as they look silly otherwise. With many of these movies, you'd never even know unless someone told you that they were originally created in another tongue.
In reply to an earlier post on 6 Aug 2010 13:52:53 BDT
Ross Gowland says:
>>However, the fact you never knew Ponyo was even Japanese, let alone one of the last great works of Studio Ghibli's Miyazaki...<<
When did TLS say that? S/he said "thanks for letting me know this is in Japanese" in other words, confirming that the original Japanese soundtrack is on this UK BD/DVD and not just an English dub.
S/he never ever mentioned either Ghibli or Miyazaki, so how do you know they've never heard of either?
In reply to an earlier post on 31 Dec 2010 09:05:43 GMT
Mr. D. J. Rix says:
I also - thanks for confirming that this DVD contains the Japanese soundtrack! I was wondering about that. I know this is not the place for arguing about the merits of dubbed/subbed productions (right, Mr Pritchard??) - each to their own, right? (Right, Mr Pritchard????) Personally though I never liked dubs much so i am pleased the original is here as well. No matter how good the voice actors are, you still lose something when you can't hear the original fluting Japanese voices! That is just part of the magic of Japanese films for me and when that is replaced by an English or American accent it just feels wrong! The aesthetic is too specific to survive the transition and there is a dislocation that ends up distracting. Still - that's just me!
I once had to watch one obscure old anime with SPANISH dubbing (with english subtitles) - now that was just surreal! Japanese superheroine with the voice of a flamenco dancer!
In reply to an earlier post on 29 Jan 2014 20:35:03 GMT
John Paul May says:
Yes, this edition has BOTH the Japanese version and the English version. As the following commentor points out, some of the ENGLISH versions of Ghibli movies are, absolute masterworks. (There is no "original" audio version of an animated film - they are just different artworks, each on their own.) Obviously, it goes without saying the English _Whisper of the Heart_ and the English _Kiki_ are, simply - masterpieces - some of the handful of greatest creative works of man of the last 500 years. However, there are some incredibly BAD! horrible! Ghibli versions ... like, the German _Whisper_ is unbelievably lame and the French _Poppy Hill_, anyone would think it is really just plain corny. I personally DO NOT LOVE the English Ponyo - the actor chosen are just plain wrong. I think everyone agrees that the most unbelievably bad - hilariously bad - English Ghibli film is the English _Poppy_ which is just beyond ridiculous! Heh! Again exactly as "BB" below points out there is no "one" version of an animated (drawn or Pixar) movie - each language version is an artwork in itself. Note that this edition IS NOT THE BEST EDITION OUT THERE of Ponyo -- you CAN NOW GET the "fancy pants" actual Japanese edition they sell in Japan, the "full re-release" of all the Ghibli movies (with the minimailst covers). I have all these. (It only costs 10 or 15 bucks to have them shipped from Japan - why wouldn't you buy them? Simply click on the japan amazon and buy them with one click - utterly no difference. They arrive in a few days.) Those "ultimate" Japanese editions, as a rule, have ALL the language versions, which is just really cool, you're getting better value, in a way. And the cases are fantastically superb. Hope it helps someone.
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