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3.0 out of 5 stars not as good as LITCOL, 26 Nov 2012
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lets have it right, the first 5 albums are peerless. too often lazily lumped in with stadium rock blandness, the former art rockers were great pillagers of the european and english dystopian vibe that was around in the late seventies/early eighties. that is why they still sound fresh, cold and clean. more bands have been influenced by that sound than i have had hot dinners. yet not many capture the vibe as well as these clever Celts.

however, the way these have been performed here is not largely my cup of tea. there is more space and atmosphere on Live In The City Of Light, an album I never tire of. the mood for me of these numbers have been altered to such a degree that they somehow lose their undoubted power. it reminds me of the stones songs which are now performed in a sort of bland way when they play live now.

they needed to play in the sparse way they were intended, that is why I am slightly disappointed with this approach and release.

its all about opinions. i wanted this to be superlative but it isn't. its merely decent. maybe it will be a grower but i doubt it. i know which live document will stand the test of time.
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Initial post: 14 Dec 2012 19:23:00 GMT
Last edited by the author on 16 Dec 2012 01:02:29 GMT
Warren BONES says:
Hmmm, I find it hard to reconcile different parts of this review. To me, Live In The City Of Light represents all of that "stadium rock blandness", whereas their recent live outings are, to my ears at least, more in tune with their earlier work. There is certainly nothing sparse about any of the songs on Sons & Fascination, they are deeply layered.

In reply to an earlier post on 15 Dec 2012 20:27:47 GMT
NoDroneZone says:
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In reply to an earlier post on 16 Dec 2012 01:01:10 GMT
Last edited by the author on 16 Dec 2012 01:08:16 GMT
Warren BONES says:
So why bother reviwewing anything at all? If you don't care that others can't make sense of it, it seems like a complete waste of time to me. It may seem strange to you but I was reading these reviews to get an idea of whether or not 5x5 was worth buying. Your review was no help at all.

Where is "the european and english dystopian vibe" in Alive & Kicking or Don't You Forget About Me? Live in the City of Light is the definitive document of Simple Minds' "stadium rock blandness" phase so it seems to me your review attempts to show yo uas some kind of hip, alternative type but in fact marks you as a lighter-waving, mainstream listener.

Posted on 24 Jan 2013 19:51:58 GMT
Last edited by the author on 24 Jan 2013 19:52:33 GMT
R.Foekens says:
Well, LITCOL isn't exactly what I would call a 'live document'. A reconstruction, yes. Besides the fact that most songs are heavily edited, the 1 song on LITCOL that suffers no 'overdubs' is NGD...
5X5 Live documents very well that the songs of the first 5 albums stood the test of time!

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Jan 2013 00:22:34 GMT
Warren BONES says:
If you bothered to comprehend the discussion, you'd understand how irrelevant your comment is. Th eonly thing that matters in this context is what songs are on it, not how it was made.

In reply to an earlier post on 15 Feb 2013 17:07:03 GMT
bittersend says:
You are right. I saw Simple Minds many times around the 'New Gold Dream' era and they were superb, among the best live bands I ever saw until they hit the stadium rock wall just after
'Sparkle in the Rain' (decent album though it is). Their Hammersmith Odeon gig in '84 was a major comedown with all the magic and mystery of their earlier shows suffocated by their pompous U2 impersonations. I stopped going to see them. Optimistically I thought I'd give 'Live in the City of Light' a chance when it came out in '87. What a mistake. It's truly one of the lousiest live records ever put out by a once great live band. The 'Love Song'/'Sun City'/'Dance to the Music' medley is a particular low light. I thought it was all over for SM and then......I caught the '5 x 5' show at the Roundhouse last year and it set the record(s) straight. More than a mere nostalgic cabaret it was an emphatic display of what had made them one of the great post-punk bands. The quartet of albums they released from 'Real to Real Cacophony' through to 'New Gold Dream' were outstanding.

By the way what is wrong with some of the 'reviewers' on Amazon that when you have the temerity to make a polite reasoned comment (as you did) they start throwing their toys out of their pram ? I mean didn't he say, "It's all about opinions..." ?!

In reply to an earlier post on 25 Feb 2013 22:39:58 GMT
MAC says:
Exactly what I was thinking.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Nov 2013 16:10:59 GMT
Last edited by the author on 20 Nov 2013 16:19:04 GMT
NoDroneZone says:
how i laugh at the sad attempt above to define me, a stranger, from someone who clearly uses this forum to recreate the scene from airplane called 'counterpoint'. i don't claim to be anything other than someone who enjoys Simple Minds music. but unlike the aforementioned sad individual, i write an honest personal assessment. not one designed to show in some way they are more 'real' which seems to preoccupy said tragic case. the only person impressed by their music collection is the person who owns it. some people would do well to remember this. also, the content and approach of both releases in question are radically different. can't help it if antagonistic types are too thick to understand this point. some other punters here respect this and although we disagree, are more likely to possess a decent set of social skills.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Nov 2013 22:09:56 GMT
Warren BONES says:
If that's true, then why take comments so completely personally? Why not simply seek to clarify your position? TBH, though, it's only since you responded that anyone has gained any insight to the sort of narcissistic individual you probably are but to think that what you write isn't a reflection of the person you are is na´ve, at best.

In reply to an earlier post on 21 Nov 2013 11:35:18 GMT
Last edited by the author on 21 Nov 2013 12:02:30 GMT
NoDroneZone says:
and the continued rubbish you post here is just a stream of aggressive cliches you have picked up during your miserable, boring existence. just save them for a business meeting about selling things where you can be king alpha male bully. somehow, i think they are reserved for an anonymous setting, where troll vermin like you thrive like amoeba does on the bottom of the toilet bowl. please carry on, it is amusing to expose such meaningless, empty drivel. and in the process, try to raise your blood pressure so the chances of you leaving this mortal coil earlier may be increased which would be doing humanity an overall favour.
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