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1.0 out of 5 stars Iggy Makes The Stooges Normal, 8 Oct 2011
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This review is from: Raw Power (Audio CD)
Amazon seems to be using these Raw Power reviews for a number of different versions of the album, so to be clear, I'm reviewing the 1997 CD release remixed by Iggy Pop (COL 4851762).

Now. As a consequence of Pop's remix of this album, everything which made the original Raw Power so unique - and so "off the wall" - has been destroyed. Everything.

In his quest to remix the album to appeal to the modern "alternative" audience Iggy actually succeeded in making The Stooges sound no different to every other band on the block during the Grunge era. He turned this unique album into corporate noise.

And the mastering itself?! Iggy clearly had no clue that pushing everything into the red with digital technology has a very different - and damaging - effect on the music in comparison to doing the same with analogue technology.

This CD was one of the first casualties of the "loudness war" (Do yourself a huge favour and Google it if you don't know what that is).

So, one star purely because I can't give a minus.

I'd recommend you buy the original unremastered and unremixed CD instead. It's weird, it's wacky, it ebbs, it flows, sometimes things are too quiet in the mix, and sometimes things leap out of the speakers at you without warning. THAT'S punk. THAT's rock and roll. THAT's Raw power.
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Initial post: 19 Dec 2013 12:37:29 GMT
L.S. Prenton says:
Of course you should search for a better version (original vinyl perhaps?), but to give an album one star because of poor mastering is like saying a Sunday roast was the worst meal you've ever had simply because the gravy was too thin.

This craze of dropping 5 star albums to 1 star ratings because of production issues makes a total mockery of the ratings system. IGNORE THE ONE STAR REVIEWERS, THEY'RE ALL MAD (OR HAVE NO GRASP OF MATHS)!!

In reply to an earlier post on 29 Mar 2014 21:49:43 GMT
Mikey C says:
Have you HEARD that steaming pile of camel droppings? :-/

In reply to an earlier post on 30 Mar 2014 16:47:18 BDT
Last edited by the author on 20 Apr 2014 15:25:53 BDT
XBBX says:
"This craze of dropping 5 star albums to 1 star ratings because of production issues"

When modern production or mastering techniques actually damage, denigrate, compromise or radically change the original sound of a vintage album, the album's rating does deserve to be dropped accordingly.

That situation may be compounded if the album has also undergone a modern remix, which alone ensures that although it contains the same songs as the original album, it's become a different album to the original.

It's now something like 30 years since the birth of the CD. We've reached a point where it's often no longer enough simply to rate a vintage album on the basis of the content or compositional quality.

When talking about different releases of the same album over a period of decades, not all CDs are created equal. That's exactly why in a seperate review for the original CD issue of this same album I have given a 4 star rating.

As regards your Sunday roast allegory, its flawed. To be a more accurate comparison the entire meal would have to be overcooked and burnt, with the flavour of all the elements being disrupted at a fundamental level for each Sunday roast you eat during your lifetime.

That's not a situation you're likely to encounter because each roast will differ.

A compact disc is a completely different matter. If I buy a specific edition of a CD and it sounds awful because of the mastering, buying the same edition of the CD again is not going to fix that problem. Each time I buy that same edition of the CD it will sound exactly the same as it did the first time. The alternative is then to seek out a better mastering, which on Amazon will be deserving of a higher star rating by virtue of providing a superior listening experience.

Let me leave you with a question.

If, based upon a 5 star Amazon review rating only the music, you pay good money for a CD which you then discover you rarely play due to the production or mastering, would you still consider it to be a 5 star purchase worthy of a 5 star rating?
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