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1.0 out of 5 stars Another Pointless New Order Issue, 30 Sept. 2008
This review is from: Power, Corruption & Lies (Collector's Edition) (Audio CD)
Power, Corruption and Lies is a wonderful New Order album, it is an album I love and is dearly treasured and important to me, and it is a crucial release in the development of the band as they slowly slip from the shadow and reputation of Joy Division and Ian Curtis.

That said PCL's shape, form and sound - as it was designed by the band in 1983 - had a beauty, intergrity and structure. This 'new edition' of NO is flaccid and unnecessary, taking away from the masterpiece that was tightly conceptually executed all those years ago.

Are people not fed up of record company's constantly issuing new versions of great albums? Why should the money men know better than the original musicians? Is not less more really?

Some of this could be excused if the 'extra tracks' were 'extra' or revelatory, but they are not. Just like all the other pointless NO reissues in this programme, the 'extra' tracks on this are not connected to the album and should not be heard in this context. And like all the other issues - none of these 'extra' tracks have not been issued before or are difficult to find.

If you love NO and music you wont buy this, save your money, buy something else by someone new or give it a good cause!
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Initial post: 1 Oct 2008 18:44:02 BDT
negative1 says:
'extra' tracks on this are not connected to the album and should not be heard in this context. ->

why was 'blue monday' and 'the beach' included on the cassette, and US versions of the CD's then?
are they not among the most influential tracks that new order have ever created?

confusion was a ground breaking track, also, and is represented..

you don't seem to have any credibility when it comes to your 'facts' concerning new order..

in fact, you seemed to have missed the complete point of buying and owning these remasters,
i'll expect you to be returning all five of them shortly for a refund..

later
-1

In reply to an earlier post on 2 Oct 2008 22:15:30 BDT
are you a Centredate employee? Stop apologising for a shoddy job.

In reply to an earlier post on 10 Oct 2008 00:27:36 BDT
Steven C. says:
Remastering is EVERYTHING. When these CDs came out, the mastering technology was in its infancy and sounded so crappy, you longed for the vinyl again. These releases are clear, no tape-hiss. It sounds lovely. Unless you only listen to music on a computer, you should care.

Here's the thing, whenever it's someone like artsy like New Order, or Morrissey, fans get so angry that they have to spend money and scream "Money-making scheme!" But here's reality: Food is a money-making scheme. Clothes are a money-making scheme, EVERYTHING is a money-making scheme. So you can decide: "Do I want to listen to the music the way the band had intended us to? Or do I want to have the cheap version that sounds crap because it's, well, cheaper."

Music is everything. And thank God for innovation and evolution! These old CDs from the 80's were crap. Depeche Mode and New Order finally saw the light! They now sound wonderful. So when will Rhino digitize the Smiths!

Posted on 11 Oct 2008 19:09:30 BDT
negative1 says:
Update :

New Order issues
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Warner respond to fan complaints about poor quality re-issues
10 October 2008 - Peter Hook has revealed to the BBC that the New Order reissues have received complaints from fans because of the poor quality.

The records were released at the end of September and Hook has blamed the problems on cut backs in the record industry and some missing tapes.

The former Joy Division and New Order bassist explained the problem: "Funnily enough we've actually got a few problems with our fans complaining about the quality of the re-masters of the companion discs. Not the LP's because they're safe and the tapes for those we have.

"A lot of them are lost, between us listening to the collation and between them coming onto the CD, something seems to have gone wrong."

Hook attributed it to problems within the record company, saying: "They don't have half the staff they used to have so everything becomes quite a trial, and I know from doing the Hacienda compilation tape, you get a lot of masters of old songs - they are mastered from the record because nobody can find the tape."

And it seems there was some miscommunication with their record label: "What's been intensely annoying for us is that all these people are complaining because they've bought them in the shops and Warner's chose to release them to the shops before they sent them to the band, so I haven't got one. A masterful piece of planning."

Contact Warner

Warner say that if any of the fans want to contact them about the quality of the New Order re-issues, then they can email this address:

Neworder.d2c@warnermusic.com

In reply to an earlier post on 14 Aug 2009 22:24:27 BDT
martin smile says:
Got a message from Dr Rhino today saying the reissued versions should be ready for 25 August 2009. Get in touch with rhino if you want to exchange your original disc. I'll have to wait and see if anything actually happens though

In reply to an earlier post on 11 Nov 2012 02:29:26 GMT
Fully agree.
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