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ZERO STARS...Excruciating Unlistenable Rubbish!,
This review is from: The Milk-Eyed Mender (Audio CD)
Its been said by other reviewers who actually listen to the sound what they review, rather than the reviewers telling us all about their own preconcieved notions of music: The woman just cannot sing, she has not got a note in her head. Any good music is completely ruined by her voice. I challenge anyone to deny her truly awful singing.
If you like quirky singers then try Ane Brun, or any of the excellent Scandanavian recent offerings. If you like folky quirky singing then try the Unthanks who are truly excellent and do what Joanna Newsom cannot even come close to doing.
A question to all 5-star reviewers out there: if Joanna is Californian, then why is she trying so very hard to sound quirky like Bjork who is Icelandic (Scandanavian accent)? Answer: Pretentious, definiitely. Go and buy/rate truly good Scandanavian artists who have that quirky singing voice naturally and can actually sing really well.
Joanna should stick to playing her instrument until she can hold a note without scaring small babies, and attracting meowling cats.
I've listened to all her albums, and the more I listen the worse they get. She should stop singing and just play her harp. A bit more volume for her instrument wouldn;t go astray either.
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Initial post: 21 Sep 2010 14:04:35 BDT
There's a difference between subjectively disliking someone's voice and suggesting that someone doesn't hit the notes they're going for. You've failed to understand this difference.
Posted on 30 Dec 2010 16:35:31 GMT
Its fairly pathetic to criticise such an artist because you don't personally like her voice. Her recent 'Have One On Me' album won the Uncut album of the year. Joanna is anything but pretentious, she is simply original and grows on you with multiple listens. She is a true star. As regards the Milk Eyed Mender album, I have found this a lot more difficult to get into than her other albums, as its nowhere near as good as 'Ys' or 'Have One On Me', however this does not detract from her originality, musicianship and brilliant song writing.
In reply to an earlier post on 14 Mar 2011 11:18:09 GMT
Last edited by the author on 14 Mar 2011 11:24:48 GMT
@Bogie55: My range of music spans far more than an out-of-tune folk singer playing a harp. Try Meredith Monk or Diamanda Galas if you want some truly good strange/avant garde singing. They are off-key, but NOT out-of-tune. Joanna Newsom is out of tune, while trying to be off-key. You've failed to understand that difference.
On the few tracks where she shuts up and plays her harp, she's actually quite good, but as soon as she starts wailing it all goes into the bin again.
I haven't failed to notice anything. She's maybe trying for a particular sound with her voice, but is just not pulling it off. Simply as that. Production is woeful on this disc also, which may not be helping.
In reply to an earlier post on 14 Mar 2011 11:23:53 GMT
@ endlessharmony: My review is of this album and her performance on it. If this is indicative of all her work, then she would get similar reviews on those works also. I couldn't care less about her voice, she is not achieving what she seems to be trying to, and is making a pigs ear of the work in the process.
Nowhere have I discussed her song writing, originality or musicianship. My point is about her singing (woeful), and only on this album (so far). It's fairly pathetic to criticise a review based on topics/albums that were not even discussed.
In reply to an earlier post on 17 Jul 2011 23:29:31 BDT
Alan D. Evans says:
But is this not a critically acclaimed album? U thought you loved them ??
Just goes to show your in the minority
Posted on 30 Apr 2012 17:02:18 BDT
I haven't heard this vocalist, but by the sound of it, and the type of people who like it, it sounds like something I wouldn't like. I only listen to music I have heard before, n I recommend 'Rokia Traore' as a female vocalist to listen to rather than watch like this one above does.
In reply to an earlier post on 3 Aug 2012 18:42:24 BDT
Last edited by the author on 3 Aug 2012 18:47:53 BDT
Uncut album of the year? Just shows what a crap magazine uncut is. They both have one thing in common they're pretentious. A true Star? oh come on the woman couldn't hold a note if she tried. You can imagine her in the studio trying to be as bizarre as she can, surrounded by a bunch of sycophants trying not to laugh at her desperate attempts at vocalising. If you want originality try 'trout mask replica' This is just pure nonsense. Went straight on ebay!
In reply to an earlier post on 1 Sep 2012 22:47:14 BDT
Eric P. Coyle says:
I have just bought this album because I have listened to two songs on you tube (Sprout and the Bean and Peach, Plumb, Pear)and have fallen in love with them. Personally I think you are a blithering fool because you seem to think you can read her mind and know what she was "trying to do". In fact it has absolutely nothing to do with the "right notes" or being "in tune". Her lyrics are different so are automatically "pretentious". What a load of rubbish! This is music you feel or don't, like art of any kind. If you don't feel it that's your loss. No one in the world has a monopoly on what makes good music,it's more subjective than any of the arts so why not be more open to the fact that you just don't get it and others do. That's not a criticism by the way, just a statement of fact and does not reflect on your taste in any way, which is strangely how most people use the phrase, as a criticism I mean, which it really shouldn't be when talking about opinions on any art form. Some people don't get Francis Bacon but I think he is a bloody genius when it comes to painting. It's not pretty but he is a fantastic painter and droughts man. I don't get Matisse however and find him greatly over rated and he is considered to be one of the greatest of all twentieth century artists. I would never say he was rubbish because that would be idiotic, but I still don't like his work that much. That's life, live with it.
In reply to an earlier post on 8 Dec 2012 21:45:07 GMT
Eric P. Coyle says:
I must say I find all this naysaying rather pathetic. If you don't like it fair enough but to then go on as if you have some inner insight into Newsom's mind and have somehow read in it exactly what she was "going for" etc etc. and then call it pretentious because you don't like the sound of her voice etc etc so therefore it must be reaching for something, although exactly what that "something" is is actually a mystery to every one except you and therefore any one that likes her is also pretentious because they couldn't possibly like her really (chiefly because you don't, so those others couldn't possibly be right could they?). Oh, I really can't be bothered any more.
In reply to an earlier post on 16 Jan 2013 16:50:58 GMT
Last edited by the author on 16 Jan 2013 16:51:49 GMT
@Eric P. Coyle & anyone else: Where exactly did I say I didn't like her because I didn't like the sound of her voice? Nowhere, that's where. What I did say and criticise is that she is a woeful singer and is making a complete mess of the music by attempting to sing in it.
Neither did I say what she was thinking. I said she has a quirky sound to her singing which just DOES NOT WORK. And to go and listen to other similar sounding but far superior singers (mostly Scandanavian) to hear what she is very obviously trying to emulate. Maybe the song-writing is good, but when the performance is abysmal, then it is completely irrelevant as you aren't going to listen to her.
If you couldn't be bothered, then don't bether replying either.