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3.0 out of 5 stars Cold Case Christianity, 4 Feb 2013
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Haven't finished this book yet, but, although I am enjoying the "homicide" approach to proving Christ's story true, I have been distressed by a wrong medical detail I have come across which makes me wonder about veracity of facts I know less about. On page 42, he talks about circulatory shock causing pleural and pericardial effusions. This isn't true despite numerous Christian websites saying it is. In fact it's the other way round in that a large pericardial effusion can cause circulatory shock. So the centurion finding blood and water on stabbing Jesus' body (John 19:34)is not explainable in the way Warner Wallace portrays it. It is actually very difficult to explain medically, but certainly not in the way the book portrays it.
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Initial post: 7 Feb 2013 12:54:27 GMT
Mark says:
I've re-read that page and he doesn't use the word 'cause', although there is a suggestion of some association in that 'direction'. He speaks of being to "my share of coroners' autopsies", which is what he bases his comment on. He also states explicitly that he is "certainly not a doctor". In other words, he is reflecting on what he has been told throughout his career. The obvious implication of what you're saying is that the coroners that he's spoken to were ill-informed and their autopsy reports were incorrect! Can you provide a link to a medical journal article so I can check the veracity of what you're saying? I think there was one in the British Medical Journal, but don't have the link to hand. Would be interested to read more. It would be a shame to discount a book based on such a detail.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Feb 2013 20:06:54 GMT
T. E. Watson says:
Don't belong to BMA anymore so several links are blocked to me. Hope these will be of some help.

Pericardial effusion causing shock: http://my.clevelandclinic.org/disorders/pericardial_effusion/hic_pericardial_effusion.aspx
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3110902/
http://www.merckmanuals.com/professional/cardiovascular_disorders/pericarditis/pericarditis.html

Pleural effusion rare cause of shock: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9508477
A cat reference!! for pleural effusion: http://www.ehow.com/info_8766441_pleural-effusion-lymphoma-feline.html

Hope that helps.
Anyway it would be helpful if J Warner Wallace could update page 42 of his book for the second edition to reflect the uncertainty of medical significance of John 19:34. (I think Bugeron's theory of trauma induced coagulopathy is the most likely. See http://www.causeofjesusdeath.com/trauma-induced-coagulopathy)

In reply to an earlier post on 8 Feb 2013 20:24:08 GMT
Mark says:
Cheers for these links, much appreciated!
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