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Creating Dissension for no Reason,
This review is from: Religion for Atheists: A non-believer's guide to the uses of religion (Hardcover)
De Botton has not only written a totally unnecessary book with the sort of title geared to help the mouse clicks, he has made a media splash by publishing his desire to build a church for atheists. All this apparently to counter inter alia Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris and Dennett.
I cannot believe that this self-styled atheist who is obviously looking for a higher media profile cannot see the problems he is causing for atheism and secularism and is playing right into the hands of the religionists. It saddens me that this man who can be entertaining has not grown up much since his first book. Nor has he anything to say that has not been said before. Dennett reads better and Stenger is more forceful than Dawkins.
Atheists do not want nor need the cringe making public display of a (£1 million and only the first of a series) monument when there are repositories of learning throughout the land that provide talks and reference material to all rationalists, atheists, agnostics and philosophers everywhere. Museums, libraries, art galleries and Conway Hall will do for the non-religious community.
The medieval churches are done and dusted - no repeat performance - and have survived the ravages of time. Their grandeur, architecture and artistry have inspired and delighted people from all over the world.
Sad as it may be but I won't be losing any sleep over this author's ideas and scribblings. I will consign De Botton to the bottom of the garden where he can wallow and cool his blood. I won't be reading any more of his stuff. I certainly wouldn't visit an 'Atheist Church'.
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Initial post: 2 Feb 2012 17:08:59 GMT
Purple Ink says:
It doesn't seem like you're actually reviewing de Botton's book, rather than taking issue with the idea of a temple for atheism. For your information, de Botton has nuanced the press reporting - in rather interesting ways;
Posted on 3 Feb 2012 13:48:13 GMT
Elizabeth Henderson says:
This doesn't sound like a review to me. If de Botton disgusted you this much, I'm not sure that you would have even read the book at all
Posted on 3 Feb 2012 21:06:34 GMT
Veronica, have you read the book?
Posted on 8 Feb 2012 17:26:04 GMT
Last edited by the author on 8 Feb 2012 17:26:40 GMT
A "church for atheists" is something De Botton has pilfered from Nietzsche. Nietzsche spoke about a longing for places built especially & ONLY for quiet contemplation.
In reply to an earlier post on 8 Feb 2012 17:43:58 GMT
Last edited by the author on 8 Feb 2012 17:46:48 GMT
Veronica Guy says:
Is that so? Well, I think it is one of the silliest ideas I have heard. I am certainly not the only one - but to give be Botton his due, he has painstakingly contacted everyone who dumped on his (pilfered) idea and apologised for being misrepresented by the media. He should have realised that he would be. The media are super headline catchers. Ah well.
Posted on 9 Feb 2012 20:34:56 GMT
Posted on 10 Feb 2012 14:34:49 GMT
J. Greenwood says:
De Botton's easy literary style belies work that requires deeper thought and contemplation.
I notice the lady rates highly books by Bill Bryson, whose work is not so encumbered.
In reply to an earlier post on 12 Feb 2012 11:33:51 GMT
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In reply to an earlier post on 14 Feb 2012 11:15:46 GMT
William Shardlow says:
I live in a major city where there are at least five churches within walkin distance. There *is* a good library, but de Botton argues (rightly) that "books are not enough". The art gallery here is certainly not enough - always showing modernist works that leave everyone perplexed (and de Botton criticises that kind of art gallery, and suggests better ones...) What's the Conway Hall? Never heard of it! Is it the secular equivalent of St Pauls'? If so secularists need to get out there and advertise it better, and build similar halls everywhere. Hope de Botton sets up a secular temple around here, it's needed...
In reply to an earlier post on 14 Feb 2012 15:19:14 GMT
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