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2.0 out of 5 stars sitha lad, thart a reet blether skite, 26 Feb. 2010
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This review is from: True North: In Praise of England's Better Half (Hardcover)
If anyone wants to read about the True North DO NOT READ this book. Even the flyleaf gives a totally inaccurate synopsis of the contents:a picture of the north as it is today. This was what I expected but what I got was a dark, gloomy history of the area between Leeds and Manchester with only the odd glimpse of anywhere else in the North of England. As for the "setting of wild coastlines, lakes and green dales" etc just a few passing words."..brilliant new enterprises" again receive just a few passing words.Great Ayton is "over" the Tees-floating or north? In actual fact it is about 8 miles south of the Tees. How many other errors are there?
Steeped in a grim political history of just a minute part of what is the North of England, lots of references to unheard of people in the Leeds to Manchester corridor and lots of name dropping-who I lunched/dined with; who I met at school prize givings etc. Ever heard of: "See all, hear all, say nowt?"

Move back to the South of England and never say another word about the North.
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Initial post: 2 Mar 2010 22:05:38 GMT
Hiya - I'm just responding because this is such a surprising take on a book whose whole purpose is to challenge the Grim Up North school, albeit gently and - I hope - understandingly. I'm sorry Audrey Williams was disappointed, but I just can't see the 'dark,gloomy history' in True North any more than the strange references to name-dropping, dinners etc, and 'move back to the South' (as TN explains, possibly too often, I was born and brought up in Leeds). On that score, I accept the 'heavy on Leeds and Manchester' criticism, and I'm sorry to have misled Ms Williams on Great Ayton, although that is her misunderstanding, not my mistake. The 'above' (not 'over') is a reference is a reference to GA's position on the edge of the Cleveland escarpment and Roseberry Topping (a wonderful little climb for those unfamiliar with it), with the Tees below. Of course the book has errors, but it also has a mechanism for putting them right which other readers have used in a very helpful, rather than 'ner-ner' fashion. This is True North's website - http://martinwainwright-truenorth.blogspot.com/ - which I immodestly recommend, whether or not you have any interest in buying or borrowing the book. Designed to save paper, it's bibliography, correction (all so far will be done for the forthcoming second edition) and a forum for debate, and the way it's going, it will end up considerably longer than the actual book. Give it a go - and warm wishes, Martin Wainwright

Posted on 2 Oct 2014 11:20:22 BDT
P. Spencer says:
"Move back to the South of England and never say another word about the North."

You give your location as France....
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