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1.0 out of 5 stars Disgusting pc prejudice and class hatred, 11 Oct 2012
This review is from: Chav! A User's Guide To Britain's New Ruling Class (Hardcover)
When I see books or any other sneering class hatred of the ilk of this, I ask myself what if this was said about people of colour or a Muslims etc.. The same people who write books like these and sneer about their hatred of 'Chavs' i.e impoverished, undereducated white people, would splutter and turn purple with rage if the same things were said about Blacks or Pakistanis or homosexuals in Britain.
Take the title and substitute the last word for any racial term of abuse you feel like using for black or Brown or Muslim people and see how it would sit with the people who will find this book amusing..
You still cannot say these things about Jewish people (at least not liberal/left Jews) by the way unless you substitute the word 'Jews' for Zionist or if the Jews in question are Israelis and then 'you can say any vile thing you like. But that is another discussion altogether.

So what makes it hip to hate poor whites? What makes it socially acceptable whether in books like these, on internet forums and social networking sites, faculty lounges etc to sneer at the same people who the hero of many of the sneerers championed-Yes folks Marx championed the European working classes NOT third world people in Asia or Africa.
so-called Chavs are a section of British society, with thoughts, feelings, and sensitivities like everyone else.
What happened to the ideals of a classless society that existed among the old left in the 50s' 60s and 70s. I know the elites can now dub the British working class as 'white working class' and as 'racist', and 'fascist; and can actually feel good about their snobbery and prejudice. The descendants of the people who exploited the working class in Britain that we read about in Charles Dickens are now noble and politically correct in perpetuating the same class persecution as they are protecting the new protected classes i.e third world immigrants against the now unworthy poor. In other words it just shows the shallowness and moral rottenness of the liberal/left elites. Conscience and conscientiousness is now decided by what is fashionable and you it is progressive , politically correct and 'taking a stand against racism' to sneer at and hurl abuse at the white lumpen-proletariat.

Who could forget the deprivations suffered by the British working classes who won World War II for Britain between 1939 and 1945. The golden age of the white working classes was no doubt the 50's (when Labour began the social reforms such as NHS and social welfare and the conservatives became more compassionate and reformist, a processed reversed in 1979 when Margaret Thatcher revived the cruel war on the British poor) The goal of the British left in the 1960 was classlessness, laudable and noble goal, and has today been replaced by multiculturalism and 'anti-racism' who have replaced the British white working class despicably with the ethnic immigrants as those to champion and justify their snobbery as they label the white working class as 'racist chavs' to justify their newly restored snobbery.

The basic problem is that the privileged left and liberal elite are no longer interested in class equity or the basic rights of the British working class but only in 'non racism' which is a farcical label for favoring the third world exotic brown immigrants and persecuting and demonizing the local white working class who they label as chavs-not worthy in the eyes of the left/liberal toffs of having their suffering, feelings or rights considered. The British working class suffered as much in the Industrial Revolution as the Blacks did under slavery but are still suffering with the privileged elite classes using pc propaganda and favouring of the third world exotic browns against them.
Britain's indigenous working classes are put last in line for employment, council housing, health care, education and bank loans in favour of the exotic Third world immigrants (especially Muslims) favoured by the pc left elites.
. Those who are flabbergasted at discrimination based on race, gender, sexuality of religion (unless of course you attack Jews for being 'Zionists' or attack Israelis-that is acceptable among the chattering classes) think nothing of attacking the British working class and lumpenproletriat as chavs. This also translates to a politically correct anti-white racism. White British young people who suffer as a result of social problems such as juvenile crime, drug addiction , and teenage pregnancy, as well as child prostitution, and come from broken homes no longer elicit sympathy from the liberal and left elites who consider the white underclass the lowest of the low, not worth saving or empathizing with, whereas they would have the utmost sympathy and support for Third world immigrant youth under the same circumstances.
The liberal and left elites now use the race card against he white under classes and point out since the latter are supposedly 'racist' and 'bigoted' they must be punished for this and are the unworthy poor as compared to the impoverished people of colour who are deemed worthy of empathy and upliftment.
This amounts to an inverse racism whereby the classes that have so long suffered since the Industrial Revolution and who came under sustained attack under Thatcher are now being made victims again at the hands of the leftist and liberal elites now in charge of Britain, including the media, local councils and the courts.

so the middle class elites of the trendy left can hate the white poor and not be regarded as prejudiced but as pc, 'non racist' 'non sexist' etc. while they play their disgusting and shallow trendy mind games and sneer at anyone who does not fit into their narrow world view.
This is NOT humour. If you regard it as humour, then ask yourself if you would regard the same sneering at racial or religious minorities or homosexuals as 'humour'.
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Initial post: 12 Oct 2012 03:21:03 BDT
Last edited by the author on 12 Oct 2012 03:21:34 BDT
A. Berry says:
So have you read this book or not? If you have, was it any good?

Posted on 17 Nov 2012 17:04:27 GMT
S. Wicks says:
While I would agree with most of what you're saying, I would heartily disagree with whom you seem to be blaming. This stuff is standard fare for the right-wing press such as the DM and Sun, not what you would find in the Guardian for eg.

In reply to an earlier post on 18 Dec 2012 08:16:36 GMT
Gary Selikow says:
But so do some leftwing intellectuals demonize and show contempt for the white working class

Posted on 13 Apr 2013 18:03:38 BDT
T. S. C. says:
Yes Gary, the first thing you remark upon is that the same people, be they Middle class or those with a bit of money or education or who just feel superior for some reason, who can sneer and hate and look down on white working class people, would (probably pretend to) be apoplectic with rage if the book was laughing at and sneering at Muslims or Black people or Immigrants. Yes. my friend, there is a horrendous double standard with the politically correct brigade, obviously especially those who are Middle class in outlook or background, and you say it's the Left-liberal elites, I believe it's also the Right-wing Middle classes as well; they have joined together in unholy political matrimony, to hate, demonise, attack, sneer at and slander those who they perceive to be the enemy and those to blame for the breakdown of society, of the breakdown of general morality and the end of the world as we know it.

You wrote: 'So what makes it hip to hate poor whites?'; Ah, the $64,000 dollar question! Certainly, old fashioned class snobbery for one, wrapped up in a veneer of concerned social outrage. Also, there has been for many centuries an ill-concealed contempt for Working class/peasant/poor people and this has permeated our general culture and is certainly a part of Middle class and Upper class culture. The Working class don't count, in their eyes, we are to be exploited, despised, ignored and generally held in contempt, unless there's a war and then we're needed to save the very damn society that kept us down in the first place! I suppose we could say that industrial society needed poor people at the bottom to do all the crappy, hard, dirty and low paid jobs as well; when that happened, like in slavery, the reality gave way to justification and the justification always needs some intellectual doctrine behind it to give it all a sheen of acceptability. Slavery had it's preachers and MPs who spoke up for the injustice, the same with class. If we are all 'feckless' 'dole scroungers' 'racists' and etc etc, then the genteel and concerned Middle classes can hate us without being prejudiced (or so they think), using the exact same reasoning and mindset that racists use; rather ironic isn't it?

You wrote: 'so-called Chavs are a section of British society, with thoughts, feelings, and sensitivities like everyone else.' Yes dear boy, spot on. This is what all prejudiced people forget or overlook in their desperation to hate someone else or offload their guilt or inadequacy on some group; that we are all individuals with dreams and goals and a life to live. I could be called a chav myself, I sometimes dress in hoodies and even trackie bottoms, but I am educated and urbane and cultured and exceptionally well-read, even though my background is traditional Working class and very poor at that. Yes, many PC people seem to take a 'stand against racism' merely to hate and despise those whom they deem as racists, yes the white working class. Again, the sheer breath taking hypocrisy and double standards leaves most of us rather confused. How can you take a stand against one prejudice whilst almost championing the right to hold dear another prejudice? Yes, Middle class mind games!

You wrote: 'The basic problem is that the privileged left and liberal elite are no longer interested in class equity or the basic rights of the British working class but only in 'non racism' which is a farcical label for favoring the third world exotic brown immigrants and persecuting and demonizing the local white working class who they label as chavs-not worthy in the eyes of the left/liberal toffs of having their suffering, feelings or rights considered.' Yes, you're bang on the money, mate. I would also add again that the Right wing are also playing this game too. There is a Middle class concern, a very carefully constructed concern, not to appear in any way racist, even though it's a dead cert that many white Middle class people are virulently racist as many other people are, but the game is simply played so that the same PC Middle classes can then offload their bitterness and snobbery and hatred onto the Working class, of which there seems to be a blind eye turned to.

All you've said about Middle class people being concerned with ethnic minorities and having contempt for the poor working classes is absolutely true. We need to get our voices heard.

In reply to an earlier post on 13 Apr 2013 20:52:09 BDT
Gary Selikow says:
You right, the Thatcherite right are just as bad indeed!
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