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1.0 out of 5 stars Bad remastering ..., 21 Mar. 2011
This review is from: Nile Rodgers presents: The Chic Organization, Boxset Vol. I / "Savoir Faire" (Audio CD)
I've just compared all the CHIC tracks which I've from other CDs and they sound much better. Isn't it possible to go into the studio with the original analog master tapes, record them with state-of-the-art A/D converters and leave it as it is - without any post-(re)mastering?

The remasters might sound quitly at home - but when I play/compare them on my superb head phones I hear all the differences on my ears which reflects the result in the club when I play them loud as dj.

The only good part are the superb remixes by Dimitri (5 stars).
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Initial post: 18 Aug 2012 19:33:08 BDT
Staircase2 says:
Of course it's possible - but not very likely - the point for artists (and particularly the label!) is to improve on what they did before. For the label the rationale is to ensure that fans get something different from what they already own so that they actually want to buy it in the first place.

There's also the (very good) possibility that the original mastered copies do not exist any longer ( record labels back then often thought of records having a very limited life and often couldn't be arsed in archiving them properly/fully.

I agree it's annoying when you listen to something you know well only to find it doesn't have the same edge after its been remastered. Labels and Artists often forget that the magic that happens on a record is literally that; magic. That tampering with something which already has perfection doesn't make it an more perfect but in fact often makes it less perfect than it was originally.

In reply to an earlier post on 18 Aug 2012 20:24:43 BDT
Pueblo Funky says:
@Staircase2: If you listen to the video of Nile Rodgers you would know that they have used the original multitrack master for the new remixes on it (so no remaster - a master from scratch). All the (re)masters have a dynamic range value between 7 and 11 - most of all 9 or 10. To less and beside that only the mids are there. There is no bump or any other feeling.

The remasters of Boney M. have the same bad sound.

Of course I buy it and want to listen it - but can't when I hear this kind of bad sound quality. And playing in the club is also not possible. The "kick" and "groove" is missing.

E.g. check the original 12" mix "Forbidden Lover" on this release - and then check the (only single version) on "Good Times - The Very Best Of Chic

Posted on 18 Aug 2012 20:26:40 BDT
Last edited by the author on 18 Aug 2012 20:27:33 BDT
Pueblo Funky says:
continue ...

& Sister Sledge - The Hits & Remixes" (discogs id #1176156). The sound quality of the singe mix is so much better - clean and grooves and kicks. This is only a mastering problem - nothing else. If there would be a master tape problem it is definitely not a problem today to re-create the 12" mix from other multiple sources (e.g. this 7" mix, vinyl).

If I would have time I would re-create the 12" mix for myself but ... however - I still play the 7" mix only because no good sound quality of the 12".

If you post your mail address I can send you the 7" mix and you can compare it. When you hear the difference - you will always hear it (most of the time). ;-)
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