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1.0 out of 5 stars Perversion of the truth, 13 Oct 2004
This review is from: The Death of Right and Wrong: Exposing the Left's Assault on Our Culture and Values (Hardcover)
Right, of course, the left controls all the giant media corporations; the left runs the USA's government, and Rupert Murdoch is a closet communist! (That was sarcasm, by the way). And of course there are a very small number of people, hidden away in sociology and philosophy departments (which do not, contrary to some paranoid views, run the world), who are complete moral relativists. But these postmodernists are insignificant. For the 'Right' to target these people is absurd. The people who really run the world are called capitalists, who own and run the means of production, including the media firms. They are a tiny minority, but they try to impose their misanthropic and malevolent view of the world, by portraying the mass of the people as idiots, cannonfodder, dupes, mere consumers. Here in Britain, the capitalists have been trying for decades to persuade us that we can't run our own affairs, trying to tell us that we need the nice people who run the European Union to run Britain too. But it doesn't work - most of us oppose their plans to railroad us into the euro, and most of us oppose their schemes to drive us into the EU's anti-democratic new Constitution.
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Initial post: 28 May 2008 22:22:12 BDT
Wilf says:
Ha ha, you're joking, right?! No, perhaps not. Oh well. Dum de dum.

Posted on 11 Dec 2008 16:32:12 GMT
Steven Dean says:
Well it was the European Court that said that the UK Police & Gov't can't keep DNA on everyone for eternity. So it would appear that the EU extends greater liberty and trust. I'll think I'll stick with them thanks. At least while UK Govt (Labour or Tory) is in the gutter that is - we already have local councils using anti-terror legislation to make sure people aren't cheating on school catchement areas - which itself raises the question of why are people that desperate to get their kids into some schools and not others. I thought the education system in the UK was world class and the envy of the world...the EU has SERIOUS problems with its democracy, but so does the UK/US...both Gov't foist things on their people - despite widespread popular protest which of course underlines the democratic methods used by our government - methods that would make the SS, Stasi or KGB proud

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Oct 2010 15:25:25 BDT
Steven, Good point that "the European Court .. said that the UK Police & Gov't can't keep DNA on everyone for eternity."
And I agree with you that it was appalling that "local councils [were] using anti-terror legislation to make sure people aren't cheating on school catchement areas."
Truly, "the EU has SERIOUS problems with its democracy, but so does the UK/US."
The lesson may be that we only keep the freedoms we fight for, and we have to organise to do so.

Posted on 6 Oct 2010 13:39:40 BDT
To return to William Podmore's review and his comment that "The people who really run the world are called capitalists". If that is true why do UK employment laws (and US discrimination laws) make it absurdly hard and expensive to sack even blatantly bad and obstructive workers? Why do Health & Safety laws often press so heavily on business as well as the rest of society? And why are airline and London underground workers allowed to strike to the inconvenience (along with everyone else) businesses whose staff can't get to work or to business meetings?

Surely if capitalists/ big business/ owners of the means of production or whatever you want ot call them ran the world, none of the above would be permitted?

And if global capitalists are in charge in this country, how can it be that they permit so many people who are plainly biased against private enterprise and especially big Amercian companies to be appointed to influential tax payer funded positions in academia, the BBC and much of the public sector?

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Oct 2010 13:58:08 BDT
S Wood says:
I don't think anyones suggesting that capitalists are 100% in control of everything, there are countervailing pressures. But the idea that those with money don't have a disproportionate amount of power within society and the political and economic level is ludicrous. Plus you exagerate much with regard to Health and Safety as well as the issue of job protection.

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Oct 2010 13:37:15 BDT
Well Mr Preston, fortunately there are, as Mr Wood points out, limits to the power of the tiny capitalist minority. And these limits are imposed by popular democratic organisations called trade unions.

In reply to an earlier post on 3 Jul 2011 11:49:13 BDT
Last edited by the author on 3 Jul 2011 12:24:34 BDT
This discussion illustrates the simplistic thinking that helps to maintain 'democratic' illusions, because as Mr Dean's comment makes clear, since the 1970/80's Western 'democracy' has largely been an illusion, foisted on us by a capitalist owned media.. We all know that since time immemorial money has bought political power. We also know that occasionally the Trade Unions do attempt to defend workers rights, BUT far fewer realise that many of these supposedly 'militant' left-wing organisations are actually maintained/supported by 'capitalist' money, donated by some of the World's richest and most exploitative 'entrepreneurs'.

The reason behind this seeming contradiction is because much of today's Trade Union/Socialist Movements, BBC/Sky etc are playing the same role the German Labour Front and Propaganda Ministries played in Nazi Germany; IE: approved institutions' with 'secret' agendas very different to those publicly stated. That 'secret' agenda is/has been, the creation of a 'One World Order' in which a tiny 'elite' owns/controls everything worth having; industry, property, media, sources of raw materials, military power and most importantly, the world's labour force. From this perspective, the 20'th Century West's high wages/living standards were merely unsustainable. The 'elite' simply moved their factories to Third world regions where labour was cheap. Eventually, Western wages have fallen to Third World levels' which are however, improving fast. The industrial/manufacturing complex should/is functioning better than ever before, with the world's nation-states reduced to Borough Council status. No more economic/finance fueled wars, both the 'elite' and workers prosper as never before.

This is why the old Left/Right arguements are meaningless today; because although we can hold different opinions, join different Groups/Parties etc..... 'The System' is now all embracing, just as George Orwell predicted; it's precisely because they are so securely entrenched in power that our rulers can permit the 'outrageous' actions LV mentions. The real problem is that while China, India, the Islamic World and the Western Elite have all benefitted from this One World Order, for three generations Western workers have lost massively by it; and are still losing.

Posted on 8 Dec 2013 10:20:19 GMT
Last edited by the author on 8 Dec 2013 10:20:52 GMT
William Podmore's review was all I needed to confirm that this was a book I wanted to read and would enjoy.

In reply to an earlier post on 9 Dec 2013 10:02:13 GMT
Did you enjoy it? For balance, read Christopher Booker's books about the EU - Castle of lies, for example.
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