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This review is from: Dracula Prince Of Darkness (Blu-ray + DVD) (Blu-ray)Well I got the replacement discs today and it's a vast improvement. The sound issues have been corrected, the pretitle sequence has been totally redone. I0000% better. Still not happy at the amount of DNR in the main film but it's still the best version to date until we see what any USA company does.
Impressed with the fact that Studio Canal listened to the complaints. Hopefully there will be no more problems with the widescreen hammer films and leave the grain alone.........
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Initial post: 3 May 2012 18:18:26 BDT
Paul WJM says:
People do throw the term DNR around a lot these days, but in this case you may find it useful to read Hammer's restoration blog, which goes into a bit more detail about the technicalities of bringing something like DPOD to Blu-ray - I don't think they take the decisions they do with something like DNR lightly. Makes for really interesting reading, and educational too. Anyway, glad the replacement discs have turned out to be a vast improvement and I will be ordering mine soon too - I love this film and the old DVD is rather soft.
Paul (The Grim Cellar at Blogspot)
In reply to an earlier post on 6 May 2012 00:55:12 BDT
I'm well aware of the blog and what they say. The problem is that modern audiences are used to modern films which are done digitally and not on film and a lot of companies feel that they have to give older films the same visual look. A bit pointless really when a modern young audience is more likely to be interested in Transporter than a 50 year old horror film. I saw Prince of Darkness in a local theatre over 30 years ago which at the time was doing a Hammer retrospective and I can assure you the film was very grainy. That was it's look and I object to that look being destroyed to appease current audiences who don't understand or want to understand the nature of grain in a film. Grain gives a film it's feel and when you remove that grain, no mater how well intended, you are losing the quality that film has. I will bet you that if a USA company gets the rights to these films, say Criterion they will leave the grain alone.
Bottom line is that the film I saw in the cinema is not the film that has been released on blu-ray. I would ban DNR for use. It has two effects. 1/ It removes detail. 2/ It softens the image and if used to extreme you end up with Predator.
I'm familiar with a lot of tools used in the industry and would ban a lot of them.
In reply to an earlier post on 27 May 2012 22:23:13 BDT
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justin johns says:
yes DNR should never be used at the mastering of the dvd as you cannot get back the original look of the picture most bluray dvd players have a DNR reduction built into the players picture settings so if people dont like the grain on the film which is a natural part of it not that i want grain on it, if there was a way to get rid of it without causing any problems i would vote for it but its just not possible, i would obviously like it to be as clean as possible but as its on the film already theres no point in hiding it and ending up with a picture with lag on it and waxy faces.. so i vote no more tampering with our films please
In reply to an earlier post on 30 May 2012 01:38:58 BDT
It's not looking good for Plague of the Zombies. Initial reviews suggest a less than stellar restoration of that one with again excessive use of DNR. It's beginning to look like Quatermass and the Pit was a one off.....
In reply to an earlier post on 30 May 2012 08:33:57 BDT
Paul WJM says:
Rewind have just reviewed the upcoming Plague disc and said the picture is "fantastic" (the reviewer said he's also seen the Quatermass Blu-ray). Of course, it's just one opinion and I'm keen to read more, but chances are I'll be picking up the Blu-ray unless they really botch something. It wouldn't really be too hard for them to beat the old DVDs in all honestly.
In reply to an earlier post on 30 May 2012 13:33:43 BDT
I hope you're right. It should also be interesting to see which USA company gets the rights to them. It's a shame they couldn't have done a running commentary on the Plague of the Zombies as two of the stars are still alive.
Posted on 1 Oct 2012 11:29:13 BDT
I won't be buying ANY of the next batch of Hammer blu-rays until I've gone through every review I can find and unless those reviews are overwhelmingly positive. What these idiots have done, by putting out a dud blu-ray of DPOD, is alert the prejudices of people like me to every future release they put on the market. What unbelievable clodhoppers - and just imagine, they got paid for making these decisions.
In reply to an earlier post on 2 Oct 2012 00:28:46 BDT
They are not impressing me. Where was the excellent 5.1 soundtrack that was on the laserdisc of Quatermass and the Pit and The Devil rides out. Why no running commentaries outside the ones done over 10 years ago.Why no original version on TDRO. I could go on. Refusing to overhaul Dracula Prince of Darkness did it for me.
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