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A proportional response to the problem,
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This review is from: Extreme Rambling: Walking Israel's Separation Barrier. For Fun. (Paperback)It must have been quite difficult to write this book, so credit where credit's due! MT has managed to take a highly contentious subject and provide a near perfect mix of humour and poigniance.
Okay, that might be over egging it just a little bit.
What MT does in this book apart from make a series of badly thought out comments to heavily armed soldiers, is to try to make people think about what it feels like to have your life controlled by a series of arbitary rules on a daily basis and he does this by putting himself in exactly that situation. More than once he is told "this road is closed" or "you are not permitted to pass here" with no need it seems, for further explanation. Imagine if this happen to you on your daily commute! Perhaps this is why his book has recieved the usual attention from the 1 star brigade, not because his book is bad but because it may cause some readers to empathise with a people on the recieving end of exactly this treatment. MT doesn't condemn the barrier itself, but he does condemn the policies that have seen babies born and die at checkpoints because the soldiers can't or won't allow the mothers to cross to get proper medical attention, I may be missing something here but if your security system can't find a way to tell a pregnant woman from a suicide bomber before mother and/or baby dies in front of you, then your security system needs to be changed.
I'm probably not selling the funny side of this book enough, and that's wrong of me because this is a funny book, infact my original title for the review was Infanticide with laughs!
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Initial post: 27 Nov 2011 13:51:41 GMT
Pamela Levene says:
In response to the comment about babies being born at the checkpoint. The real point is WHY are these women coming into what they supposedly consider enemy country to have their babies delivered by the hated Israeli doctors? Surely having had full autonomy since 1995 and having since received millions of euros, dollars etc from the world, there should by now be lots of good hospitals in the Palestinian territories?
Or is it that the Palestinian leaders consider buying all those expensive bombs and missiles in order to kill innocent civilians to be a higher priority than making their own people's lives better? And of course building their own luxury homes and lining their own bank accounts. (Remember Arafat's millions. Where did they disappear to after his death?)
And Israel is CONDEMNED for trying to save lives!! Almost 2000 dead, thousands more maimed for life in suicide bombings would make any normal country throw up a barrier or two! And any normal author would refrain from condemning this action.
In reply to an earlier post on 19 Feb 2012 19:21:40 GMT
I don't feel like entering into a discussion based around the contents of a book with someone who has never taken the time to read it and is clearly ignorant of the subject matter. It would be a pointless exercise.
However, I question your right to put feelings of hatred into another persons heart. I find it offensive when you suggest that a pregnant woman standing at a checkpoint considers Israel an enemy, why should you think such a thing, because she happens to be an Arab? If you want to claim to know what a person is thinking, you'd better come up with a more convincing argument that that.
But as you have suggested this to be that case perhaps we should think this through to its logical moral conclusion. If this woman was the worst anti-Semetic in the world, would this remove the rights of her unborn child to medical treatment? Does the mother's imagined hatred negate a duty of care for a defenceless baby?
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Pamela Levene says:
I have read the book. That is why I responded.
I certainly know the subject.
I am an Israeli who lives in Israel.
I was a member of the Israel Foreign Ministry Peace Talks delegation who negotiated the Interim Agreement (Oslo II) with the Palestinians.
I survived the Intifada which followed the peace agreement, where 2000 Israelis were killed and thousands more were maimed. These included where Palestinian women blew themselves up at crossing points, killing others with them.
Forgive me if I didn't find the book in any way amusing.
But this is a book review not a political forum. So I heartily agree with you that there is no point in your entering into a discussion with me.
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Civilian deaths are an emotive subject in any conflict and as such should be used with care and with honesty, you have failed to do this on both counts. Firstly, you attempt to use the number of deaths to prevent further discussion and to defend Israel's unpalatable course of actions.
"Why should we care about 'p' when thousands of OUR people have died?"
Secondly, quoting only one set of figures is either lazy or outright dishonest. If you must attempt to reduce the Palestinian/Israeli conflict to a simple set of statistics at least have the decency to quote both sets of figures. In this case the number of Palestinians killed ( by the IDF at 6439 people, with 1328 of those being children. (Data , 29.9.2000-31.12.2011) http://old.btselem.org/statistics/english
On the subject of checkpoints I suggest further reading for you. http://www.btselem.org/freedom_of_movemen
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