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2.0 out of 5 stars Why NTSC, Why??, 30 Nov. 2013
This review is from: Live At Koko, Camden Town, London, March 2013 [DVD] [NTSC] (DVD)
An amazing subject, but given that our entire TV standard is based on PAL, why on earth has this DVD been mastered using the inferior American NTSC standard? It's not as if the potential sales in the US are even worth considering.

I'm going to save my cash until they produce a PAL version. In fact, given that nobody shoots anything in standard definition these days, why no Blu Ray guys?
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Initial post: 1 Dec 2013 15:59:11 GMT
Last edited by the author on 2 Dec 2013 00:28:09 GMT
The official release date for the PAL version is 9th December through Cadiz Music. Can't believe anyone wouldn't know that.

Well done for giving a product a bad review because of the disc region. This is the review page for the NTSC version anyway. So essentially you've left negative feedback for an NTSC disc because.......it's an NTSC disc? Great logic.

EDIT - Spelling correction. NTSC, not NSTC.

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Dec 2013 16:22:37 GMT
J.R.Hartley says:
Ok. Let me try to explain slowly...

1) This is listed on the Amazon *UK* site
2) It's not marked as an import
3) It's a Region 2 disc i.e. for the the *UK* and the rest of Europe etc, so *not* American (i.e. Region 1)
4) It is released on the 2nd of December by Cadiz (as is the one you allege will be PAL)
5) Yet it is, according to Amazon, using *NTSC*, the *American* format.

I have not, as you said, given it a bad review because of the region, as it's nothing to do with the region. I've given it a bad review because of the video format. NTSC has a lower resolution than PAL and therefore produces an inferior image. It's getting more common to see cheapo DVD firms using this lowest common denominator of video formats, so that they only need master once for the whole world, despite it producing the lowest quality video format in common TV usage. *This* is why I have given it a low score.

In reply to an earlier post on 2 Dec 2013 00:40:48 GMT
Last edited by the author on 2 Dec 2013 00:41:36 GMT
So transparent...

Amazon UK stocks plenty of NTSC products. It doesn't matter one iota that it's the UK site. It's released on the 9th of December as I said (not the 2nd) which is a week later.

You are giving a bad review for the region because this is the order page for the NTSC version. The UK Region 2 (OBVIOUSLY a mistake by Amazon to call this R2) release will be a PAL version.

So if you have this DVD which doesn't come out till today and is out of stock on the website....

Please tell me about the gig and the editing. Tell me your thoughts on all the DVD extras. Some in depth opinions of the Wilko interview would be nice.

A review is for the content of the product, not the video format. You don't have the DVD so you have no idea what the quality is like. I'm sure this is an error having the product on the site anyway. Probably for the American market.

In reply to an earlier post on 2 Dec 2013 17:52:08 GMT
Last edited by the author on 3 Dec 2013 18:46:22 GMT
J.R.Hartley says:
If you're adamant that there is a PAL release pending, please supply the two Cadiz release codes and ASINs that show that there are two unique releases. Or perhaps supply a link to the PAL version that Amazon have on pre-sale.

EDIT: I contacted Cadiz directly and they confirmed that it's NTSC.

In reply to an earlier post on 4 Dec 2013 20:57:04 GMT
Tv Tall says:
Isn't Pal a brand of dog food?

In reply to an earlier post on 5 Dec 2013 23:52:56 GMT
J.R.Hartley says:
Not unless "Phase Alternating Line" is a brand of dog food.

In reply to an earlier post on 6 Dec 2013 08:07:16 GMT
Tv Tall says:
I knew a horse called Phaser so it kind of makes sense.

In reply to an earlier post on 13 Dec 2013 11:33:05 GMT
The original reviewer is right to post his comments about it being an NTSC region 2 (i.e. Eu) release. Unfortunately a few companies are releasing NTSC only discs now as I guess it saves money by only having to master it once. Even big "UK" companies like EMI do it - look at the recent Magical Mystery Tour DVD/BluRay - even though it was filmed for UK TV at 25fps the Eu release is NTSC frame rate - even the BluRay disc.

However after watching this DVD a few times I think it was probably filmed at NTSC frame rates as you cannot see any tell tale conversion artefacts. For a small company this makes sense if they wish to market it in the US and Japan. I don't mind this so much as there is no conversion penalty - but I do object when a program was specifically recorded in PAL and released as NTSC only such as the recent Rockpalast DVD's:

Live at Rockpalast -1980 (CD & DVD pack) (NTSC)

Posted on 20 Jan 2014 00:36:09 GMT
You should stick to fly fishing - Wilko is as much of a 'British Guitar Legend' as Clapton/Beck/Page/Green/et all -- he set a 'style' and is unique !!

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jan 2014 18:54:20 GMT
J.R.Hartley says:
What we're discussing here though is not the man, but the inferior product.
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