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Review of CD/DVD 2013 reissue,
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This review is from: Close To The Edge [Cd+Dvda] (DVD)
I hope the title of this review helps you navigate your way around Amazons decision to merge all reviews across all formats across all ages of this title. Thus making it very difficult for anyone to locate reviews of these 2013 reissues without wading through a sea of historic opinion.
Anyway onto the product, if your specifically targeting this version of Close to the edge then you will almost certainly know the music, what you will want to know is whether or not to reinvest your hard earned money in yet another version of this Classic album.
What I like about this cd/dvd reissue is that it compliments perfectly the king crimson double packs ,with the slip case / double disc gatefold inner cover / 1 x cd & 1 x dvd disc / cd inlay size booklet . (Another reviewer has pointed out that the Blu ray packaging is more of a lp sleeve style cd digi pack.)
The Booklet is superb and contains a very detailed essay by Sid Smith who was also resposible for the essays in the King Crimson re-issues. You also get the famous Roger dean painting across the middle pages and a replication of the albums green background lyric inner sleeve.
As to the Steven Wilson remaster - I really liked the Yes 2003 remasters and by comparison this is slightly warmer and more organic but I think the differances are subtle - Do not buy this expecting some sonic revolution, unlike some of the titles Mr Wilson has worked on, the Yes catalogue does not have a legacy of mastering issues to reinvent. Close to the edge in my opinion has always sounded great. I have played the DVD but as i am without surround sound(Simple Stereo has always been my prefered listening set up ) it is difficult to pass comment other than to say it contains the original, the 2013 remaster and the surround sound versions plus several versions of America.
In Summary this reissue is probably a slight luxury if you already own the 2003 remasters, those are still the best value for money if you just want a version of the album. If However you are a fan of this type of product and of Steven Wilson`s remasters then the list price is currently great value and I find the fact that the packaging for the cd/dvd version compliments the King Crimson set is a particularly nice touch -
Bring on the rest of the classic Yes catalogue !
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Initial post: 14 Nov 2013 21:41:01 GMT
John Kelly says:
Quite decent summary of this re master/mix...however the CD does sound quite different from the original mix..especially America. And You And I sounds like it was recorded yesterday and the title track is even more bombastic(in a good way ) as the original...Steven Wilson has really brought new life to an already good and well recorded album. Bring on the rest in the series.
In reply to an earlier post on 15 Nov 2013 02:09:41 GMT
Last edited by the author on 15 Nov 2013 02:13:10 GMT
Thanks for the notes guys.
I believe Steve was asked if he'd remix Relayer and his reply was "no comment". Read what you want into that.
Also Going For The One is also rumoured to be in the mix if you excuse the pun.
Finally, I wish Amazon wouldn't merge reviews. It's bloody annoying trolling through pages searching for comments on movie or cd.
Posted on 16 Nov 2013 16:06:06 GMT
I've just received my CD/DVD copy and just had a quick listen to SW's stereo re-mix. One or two surprises: the overall sound is slightly warmer and a touch less bright than I was expecting. Anderson's vocals are more forward on the title track with the backing harmonies pushed back. Bruford's drums are louder and more punchy. All the solo instruments ring through and are nicely prominent. Strangely the 'swamp noise' is re-introduced during one or two quiet moments during the track! Having not quite listened to the whole track, I went back to the 2003 Rhino remaster....and preferred it. The Rhino version is just brighter and has a crisp, clear quality that I like. CTTE is quite a dense album in terms of its production and it needs a bit of 'top end' just to give the overall sound a lift. SW's version is interesting, but Rhino is still my 'go to' version.
In reply to an earlier post on 16 Nov 2013 17:51:30 GMT
Last edited by the author on 16 Nov 2013 17:52:10 GMT
John Kelly says:
agree with the above..I'm glad we have both versions though the 2003 version edges it for me too but the 2013 is a nice alternative.
Posted on 14 Apr 2014 14:59:20 BDT
David Duncan says:
So what version would you suggest buying? I don't have any Yes albums and I am going to get this one first, but can't decide whether to get the Rhino 2003 version or Steven Wilson's remaster. Some are saying he has done an amazing job, while others are saying that he's ruined it and that it is a total mess. Also looking at getting the King Crimson remasters, although I've already bought two albums of theirs that are 30th anniversary editions... do you really think it's necessary to keep buying the same album over and over again every time it is reissued?
In reply to an earlier post on 14 Apr 2014 15:52:32 BDT
Last edited by the author on 14 Apr 2014 16:00:34 BDT
Which version is 'best' is an almost impossible question to answer. Having read endless discussion threads on Steve Hoffman's audio forum alongside various Yes fan forums, there really is no consensus on what is the best version of 'Close to the Edge', or any other Yes album, for that matter. In the end, much depends on your personal preference in terms of sound, together with the tonal qualities of your stereo system. What I would say is this: Both the Rhino and the Steve Wilson versions are technically very good. If you like your CDs slightly on the bright side...clear and crisp with plenty of top end, then go for the Rhino version. Bill Ingot, the Rhino engineer, boosted the treble slightly, presumably to add clarity and crispness to the mid-range. If you like a slightly warmer sound then go for the Steve Wilson version, or even the 1994 Joe Gastwirt remaster (if you can find one). There's nothing 'wrong' with any of them, they are just tonally slightly different.
In my opinion, Steve Wilson's tweaking of the stereo mix doesn't really add anything to the original (can't comment on the 5.1 surround mix because I don't have the equipment). If it were me, I would go for the Rhino, especially if you don't need the 5.1 surround mix. Most of the people who are raving about the Steve Wilson version are referring to his 'surround' mix.
Good luck with your first Yes purchase!
In reply to an earlier post on 15 Apr 2014 04:29:44 BDT
David Duncan says:
Thanks for the great response! I'll definitely go with the Rhino version then. Thanks a lot.
Posted on 12 May 2014 04:37:27 BDT
thanks for your review i found it very helpful,i was into yes in the early 70s,not paid much attention for years,[i should have] ! so i think it'll have to be this version...........
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