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This review is from: Sony NEXVG10EBDI Handycam Camcorder with Interchangeable Lenses and Digital HD Video Quality (Accessory)Recently we bought this camera to film events at my workplace.
I'm really used to work with videocameras and I have to say that this camera is very difficult to manipulate.
It seems you need three hands to work with this camera.
I like to be creative and change the settings during filming; This camera makes this very difficult.
The record button is placed wrong when you use the upper handle. Why not put a second record button on top?
When you film with the viewfinder and open the screen to change settings the viewfinder falls out and you need to activate it again.
Sometimes the camera freezes and you the buttons don't react accordingly.
Very impractical...and great loss of time
After recording the camera needs 15 seconds to write the data. So again you lose precious moments.
My other cameras don't have this flaw.
With autofocus there is no face recognition and in half of the situations the camera focusses on the background.
The only solution is manual focus but this is not easy when filming events.
The camera is very heavy and tends to tilt forward and you need a strong hand to keep it steady.
I hardly use this expensive camera anymore, which is a shame, and bring my own Canon Legria HFG10 to film events, this camera is far more adapted to film in difficult situations.
The image quality and the sound are superb but this is not enough to convince me...
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Initial post: 24 Sep 2011 20:04:09 BDT
hey well do you want to sell yours at a low price if you don't use it? pitty it go to waste. if so reply soon
In reply to an earlier post on 6 Nov 2011 18:25:36 GMT
Billy Ray Cyrus says:
pitty it go to waste. if so reply soon
Posted on 8 Dec 2011 05:55:33 GMT
Last edited by the author on 8 Dec 2011 05:57:18 GMT
It seems you bought the product without actually looking into it first.
You say you like to change settings DURING filming? You never do that. Ever. You set up a camera the way you need to and film.
The upper handle is there for ease of transport, not explicitly for recording. Also, that handle is also handling a 5.1 surround sound audio transfer, the more cabling they put in it the heavier it gets. Most cameras only have one record button, all this camera is is a high end camcorder, for semi-pros.
The freezing and messy button-reactions aren't a problem for anyone else. Perhaps you got a dud product?
Fifteen seconds to write the data? You're probably using too slow an SD card. Get a Class 10 card if 15 seconds is really all that important, or better yet, just keep recording.
As I said, semi-pro camera. They didn't bother with face recognition because that's for silly little camcorders folk buy to take on their holiday vacation. They expect ALL buyers of such a camera to use manual focus. It's not easy is it? No, film isn't easy.
If you actually look at the camera, most of it is the lens (the heavy part), which you can detach and replace with any Sony lens with a simple adapter.
All in all, there's absolutely nothing wrong with the product itself (aside from the possibility of the button issue), you just didn't know what you were buying when you got this.
I for one am planning on getting this wonderful product later next year for film school, I've had my eyes on it and have been studying it for about 14 months now, so if I have any complaints, it's that the price has barely dropped since its release.
In reply to an earlier post on 26 Mar 2012 16:08:05 BDT
The original reviewer is making his comments after owning the camera -you are making them before owning one. As a student you have shown you have a lot to learn and you are not in a position of experience to tell anyone that "you never do that".
Professionals are required to change focus, exposure and framing during a take - so you are wrong in your aggressive criticism of the original poster's methodology.
In reply to an earlier post on 27 Mar 2012 01:52:15 BDT
It's a general rule in all cameras. And when he says "change settings", I'm working under the assumption he's not talking about focus, framing and exposure. If he was, all the controls should be there and it shouldn't be too difficult to figure it out.
My point still stands. He's giving the camera a completely dud review because he simply didn't look into the product in full detail before purchase. I've managed to get a shot of the camera myself. It's everything I expected, and as I stated in my last post, he either doesn't know how to work it or simply has a faulty product. Top that off with the "15 seconds to write the data", (which his fault for not getting a higher speed card) I'm sure my technical knowledge greatly surpasses his whether or not I had any previous experience with the camera.
"Professionals are required to change focus..."
Well, read what he has written here:
"The only solution is manual focus but this is not easy when filming events."
If he can't work manual focus, he's nowhere near as professional as me, student or not.
Just because I'm a student doesn't mean I can't know as much as all the middle-aged "professionals".
In reply to an earlier post on 27 Mar 2012 06:53:34 BDT
I'll judge your professionalism by your comments not by your confidence or arrogance. Did you buy the camera that you said was excellent? Can you add to the review with facts or merely denigrate the original reviewer?
In reply to an earlier post on 27 Mar 2012 10:03:23 BDT
I have nothing to add past what pretty much every other review of the camera there is. The ring controls are smooth and the menu system is easy to adjust compared to the big and heavy HDV cameras.
You simply aren't taking what I said at first as adding to the review.
"The upper handle is there for ease of transport, not explicitly for recording."
"The freezing and messy button-reactions aren't a problem for anyone else. Perhaps you got a dud product?"
"Fifteen seconds to write the data? You're probably using too slow an SD card."
"They didn't bother with face recognition because that's for silly little camcorders folk buy to take on their holiday vacation. They [Sony] expect ALL buyers of such a camera to use manual focus."
"All in all, there's absolutely nothing wrong with the product itself (aside from the possibility of the button issue), you just didn't know what you were buying when you got this."
If these statements don't add to the review in your eyes, (and judging by the 3 out of 4 people who did, you don't) then that's a point of arrogance on your part.
I'll admit I was expecting some middle-aged freelancer to bash me simply because I'm younger and thus they must automatically know more than I do.
The very reason why I find this review to be an unfair evaluation is because every other review whether or not the reviewer was a beginner or semi-professional has described this camera as a fantastic piece of kit. I simply gave my input for why another potential buyer shouldn't consider this review as one which should affect their purchase, unless of course they have no clue what they're doing.
And no, the camera is too expensive for my budget at the moment but after trying it out I still very much want this camera.
Say what you want about my professionalism, because frankly, anyone buy this camera is NOT a professional whatsoever. Professional cameras start around £5k so until you're working for a decent film or television production company I suggest you leave professionalism for all but the reviewer out of the discussion. I take the original reviewers level of professionalism into account because at the time I had seen review after review simply praising the camera while they knew how to use it, when this reviewer from my point of view, taking into account all other reviews, reviewers and their skills, has very little know-how when it comes to this camera.
In reply to an earlier post on 27 Mar 2012 21:53:56 BDT
So you didn't buy this camera and your comments are based purely on your reading of the specification and other people's reviews- that has no value here, as well as being mighty rude to the guy who did offer a first hand opinion. In an Amazon review I want a review by a purchaser, not a third hand opinion. I can read the spec sheets, and don't need your opinions on a product you don't own.
In reply to an earlier post on 28 Mar 2012 00:19:04 BDT
Whether or not I own it isn't important. I've had a shot of it, and it matches up with every other review out there.
No, my comments are PURELY based on my reading of the specification. But they are mentioned since, once again, the reviewer didn't actually look into how to work the camera. Most likely didn't even read the instruction manual.
Plain and simple. Why do you not get it and insist on pursuing this?
Posted on 5 Apr 2012 08:41:48 BDT
I like many other VG10 owners found the camera would freeze and the buttons not react accordingly, this is in part user error and a minor design fault.
I googled the problem and also checked out the VG10 user site, this freezing is caused by the user resting a finger on the photo button and when slightly pressed down it affects the focus and freezes other operations until no longer pressed, I have adjusted my grip accordingly and the camera has never had this problem again.
I agree it is very difficult to get the hang of this camera but I persevered and my clients have all commented on how fantastic the quality of video and stills are.
I use HD Video SD cards and the write time is fast, I never loose precious moments waiting for video to be written to the card.
If you wanted face recognition you should have bought something else.
I read the isntructions and use the camera in the way it was designed to be used, I have had no problems with Autofocus, manual focu is easy now I have upgraded the firmware to include peaking.
I regularly hand hold this camera for 8 hour shifts and yes it is heavy, but I compensate for that.
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