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This review is from: The Promise [DVD] (DVD)
I was horrified by this latest demonisation of Israel on Channel 4. I will be writing to OFCOM to bring to account the management of a TV Channel that in 2008 also thought it appropriate for Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to give the Christmas message.
"The Promise" gave a misleadingly partial and sometimes false impression of both the history of Israel and the country today. Its theme was that the Jews deserved their own State because of the Holocaust but that they then very quickly began to behave like their tormentors. Israeli Jews were depicted either as living in California-style houses with swimming-pools or as heartless soldiers who mistreat Arabs and protect the most extreme settlers. Even though this was a drama and not a documentary, many viewers would have taken it as historic fact - particularly in view of the lavish realism of the production - and Channel 4 therefore has an unquestionable obligation to at least attempt to be balanced and accurate.
A number of demonising falsehoods were included, for example that all Arab refugees fled in 1948 because of fear of Jews (the truth is that the Mayor of Haifa begged them to stay and that many were told to flee by their leaders, in anticipation that the massing Arab armies would annihilate the Jews and that they could then swiftly return); that the IDF uses children as `human shields'; and that Israel was created purely because of Western guilt about the Holocaust.
The bias of the series is clear from Director Peter Kosminsky's own article in the Guardian. The researchers interviewed members of the International Solidarity Movement - a group whose antithetical views about Israel are well known - as well as Combatants for Peace and Breaking the Silence, both organisations representing the small minority of dissident soldiers. There is no indication that less extreme organisations were consulted in the making of the series.
While Kosminsky insists that the series included certain events for `balance' and that he based everything on actual incidents, the overall combination, selection and ordering of the events was deliberately anti-Israel and the series clearly set out to demonise Israel.
Summary: Appalling Drivel......
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In reply to an earlier post on 1 Mar 2011 15:14:36 GMT
Jonathan Hoffman says:
In reply to an earlier post on 1 Mar 2011 15:44:38 GMT
No it's not - it's just relevant to all those comments. I have many Israeli friends and I love Israel but it is sad when Israeli's are so blind to what they are doing to a country. Stop behaving like a victim and replace hatred with love.
In reply to an earlier post on 1 Mar 2011 16:02:11 GMT
Luca Xun says:
dont feel bitter because not everyone feels the same way you do. i didn't get annoyed at Brave-heart. Love to know what you thought of Louis Theroux program ;)
In reply to an earlier post on 1 Mar 2011 18:14:23 GMT
Johnny - If you are going to post what appears to be a very biased review on here, and threaten to to complain to OFCOM - you can expect some comments. If you then start labelling and insulting those people that making those comments - you can expect more comments- "two or three guys with hundreds of logons" - Can't you just accept that most people on here disagree with your viewpoint on The Promise.
Posted on 1 Mar 2011 19:57:30 GMT
Hoffie - I've just done a quick google search on you - apparently at a SOAS meeting last year you were heckled - you claimed
ANTISEMITIC remarks had been hurled at you - fortunately a video recording of the event was made available - no ANTISEMITIC remarks had been made. Also you co -demonstrated with Roberta Moore of the EDL. For anyone interested to learn more about Mr Hoffman - check Tony Greenstein's Blog.
In reply to an earlier post on 1 Mar 2011 20:09:59 GMT
Last edited by the author on 1 Mar 2011 20:10:20 GMT
A Jew demonstrated with the EDL?!?! Now I've heard everything! Well, doesn't that just say it all?
Thanks for that Newman! It would appear we have a Sherlock in our midst! Keep it up! :-)
Posted on 1 Mar 2011 21:45:13 GMT
Last edited by the author on 1 Mar 2011 22:26:08 GMT
Yes, I have just googled J. Hoffman aswell, out of interest. It seems that a lot of Jews find him a bit of a clown, and are concerned that his over use of the words anti-semite, directed at anyone he doesn't like the look of, is making the statement meaningless. I have to agree, it is used now by those who have lost the argument. It's meaning and power has been brought down to the level of children sticking their fingers in their ears and sticking out their tongues. This of course is a bad thing, because when true anti-semitism is dealt out, the cry will be ignored. I have to wonder sometimes, are some of these extreme Zionist people actually wishing the destruction of Israel, their Armageddon, so that they can say 'See I told you we were hated'? I wouldn't have thought so, (not so sure now,) but they certainly aren't doing Israel or the Jewish people any favours. Also the EDL?? oh dear. Having seen the support given by some in Israel to the ideas and rise of the Dutch politician Geert Wilders the other day, I shouldn't be surprised.
In reply to an earlier post on 1 Mar 2011 22:08:27 GMT
Well exactly! Do these guys actually realise that they are digging their own graves? (Metaphorically, and perhaps, heaven forbid, even literally?) It was only a couple of years ago that reports were circulating about a confidential CIA assessment having been issued to the White House foretelling the end of Israel as a Jewish state if they refuse to concede the territories acquired during the course of the June 1967 war. Without these territories, a Palestinian state will not be possible, and that will then only leave the possibility of a One State solution - meaning the end of Israel as a Jewish state because Arabs will be the majority.
It doesn't take a genius to figure out that the Zionists will be the cause of the downfall of Israel if they're not careful. Why are they so unable to see this?!
Posted on 2 Mar 2011 12:44:33 GMT
Last edited by the author on 2 Mar 2011 14:37:53 GMT
colin muir says:
I disagree with you completely Johnathan. I believe it gave a balanced view of what people believe and know from their own personal experiences. I have known Jewish people over the years who were fortunate enough to survive the holocaust. I visited Israel after meeting one in the States a few years ago. I also had an acquaintance and still have a relative who both were in the British paras from 1945 to 1948 - their experiences were not good, to say the least - 5 Para lost around 40 killed.
If England/France/USA had acted responsibly after the first world war, the second world war would never have happened and the Jewish population around the world today would be more like 24 milllion and not 12 million.
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran has every right not to trust 'the west'. Look what the British governemt did in Persia-as-was in 1909. Look at what Britain, amongst others, did to Iraq after the fall of the Ottoman Empire after 1918.
Don't blame Peter Kosminsky, Johnathan, blame the politicians. I am English by the way, I'm not Jewish, and am pro-Israeli!
Posted on 2 Mar 2011 17:36:19 GMT
P Cullen says:
To say that I found this review helpful is not to say that I agree with it. In fact I do not, but it is interesting to read the views of someone who is so upset as to describe the series as "appalling drivel". It is hardly that, providing worthwhile insight into the origins of one of the most intractible conflicts in history. It emphasises the importance of perception in the study of all great conflicts, and the need to find ways to move from the intractible position to a broader understanding of the issues, which may one day facilitate the promotion of a peaceful resolution of a conflict which is destroying lives and the quality of life for millions of ordinary human beings. As a person living in Northern Ireland I would desperately yearn for peace in the Middle East.