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Rachel Bouchard is the owner of The Gator Shed, a restaurant in a beautiful small swampland town. Watson is the local sheriff who has illegally imported a deadly shark which escapes into the swamp, the shark finds its way to the restaurant where it attacks and kills the alligators they keep along with a drunken local. The sheriff attempts to hide the fact that there's a shark and accuses Rachel's brother, Jason, of the murder. Determined to find the shark and prove Jason's innocence, Rachel, Jason, Rachel's boyfriend called Tyler and a mysterious stranger called Tommy set off to hunt the shark. Meanwhile Rachel's naive younger sister, Krystal, meets up with some other kids and hits the swamps in their boat. The shark happens to be on the loose just as the town is at its busiest, it's the 10th annual Gator Fest and all the horny teenagers have gathered.
The acting in Swamp Shark is of a much higher standard than a lot of other films of this type. Kristy Swanson delivers a good performance here as Rachel, this is the second made for tv shark attack film she has appeared in after Red Water in 2003. I think it's fair to say that Swanson's career has been quite disappointing after a very promising start, Pretty In Pink, Ferris Bueller's Day Off, Deadly Friend, Flowers In The Attic, Hot Shots! and the lead in Buffy The Vampire Slayer made her quite a big star, she later appeared in films like The Chase, Higher Learning, The Phantom and Big Daddy. Dude, Where's My Car? in 2000 was the last successful film she was in, which is a shame as she is a good actress and she's still a good looking woman. D. B. Sweeney is also likeable as Tommy, Sweeney is another good actor that had a good start to his career but has found good roles hard to find in recent years. He's probably best known for his roles in Gardens Of Stone, No Man's Land, Eight Men Out, The Cutting Edge and Fire In The Sky. Small roles in Equilibrium and Taken 2 are the only films of any real note he's been in for a long time, he did have a starring role in Chris Carter's short lived TV show Harsh Realm that was actually quite good and should have had a longer run. Robert Davi is a great character actor that always improves any film he's in, here he plays Sheriff Watson. Davi is best known for The Goonies, Raw Deal, Die Hard, Licence To Kill, Predator 2, Maniac Cop 2 and 3 and the hilarious Showgirls, his later career has also had far fewer good films than his early career. Richard Tanne was quite annoying as Tyler, he was too young to be playing Swanson's boyfriend. Jason Rogel was good as Jason, and Gary Sinise's daughter Sophie does okay as Krystal. It's the best film so far from actor/director Griff Furst, some of his earlier directorial efforts have included the awful Universal Soldiers (not the Van Damme film), I Am Omega and Lake Placid 3. It now seems he's become stuck making cheapo creature features as he's since directed Arachnoquake which is the exact type of creature feature I don't like, and his next two movies are called Ragin Cajun Redneck Gators and Ghost Shark which just sound embarrassing.
I think one of the main things that has to be pointed out with Swamp Shark is that it was at least a serious attempt at making a good movie, this isn't like the unbelievably silly CGI nightmares like Mega Piranha, Mega Shark vs Giant Octopus, Mega Python vs. Gatoroid, Komodo vs. Cobra or the dozens of others like it, though I do accept that they can be rather amusing if watched in the right mood. Swamp Shark, despite the cover suggesting otherwise, is much closer to films like Frankenfish, Komodo or Bats. It has some recognisable faces who put in good performances, there is some semblance of a plot even though there's quite a bit of story that isn't at all explained, the shark itself doesn't look great but it isn't shown constantly and mostly appears under murky water to hide the CGI effects, it's only the few occasions when the shark leaves the water that you notice how bad it looks. I'm more than happy to ignore the poor CGI when the characters are likeable, and they are in Swamp Shark. The relationship between Rachel and her siblings is well handled, the annoying boyfriend who you can't wait to get munched is in there, Rachel and Tommy have a flirtatious relationship which was fun to watch, there's the corrupt sheriff who denies all knowledge of the shark and apart from a few idiotic teenage characters, even most of them are okay. The film is also quite fun without trying to parody the genre, you tend to laugh at jokes or the situations the characters get into rather than the terrible acting and awful effects like certain films already mentioned. There's a few gory moments during the film but nothing too severe as it's a made for TV movie, there's also several near nude scenes where the camera angle doesn't quite show the goods.
The DVD picture quality is very good, the only extra is a trailer and there's no subtitles. You should really know what you're getting into when watching a film called Swamp Shark, so if you're not expecting a masterpiece you may enjoy this fun film as much as I did. If you enjoyed films like Frankenfish or Komodo, don't let the silly front cover put you off, it's not nearly as stupid or silly as the cover makes it look.
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Initial post: 28 May 2013 03:45:23 BDT
That's it, that's what matters, you've already classed things nicely properly by namedropping the extremely ignored and disregarded, yet very good low budget animal attackers 'Frankenfish', 'Bats' and 'Komodo' which are the exact comparisons people need to know about and not the bloody 'Jaws' one, which I only bring up in direct correcticle (not a word, I don't care, but you're special-so you get a special new word) salute to the man going out of his wave sorry) NOT to bring up. And as a necessary balancing point, you stick it in the guts of the Mega Sharker-Octo-Pytha-Gator-Whatnotses as the exact sort of films that are touted for being part of the market, while certainly not being a welcome part. Or that they're a joke part, a bad one.
You made a good point about the cover, actually that was scaring me as much as the title, but now I have less to fear than, say, the "drear" of 'Darktide'. Just did a double-take the other day, another horror film (fake?) seemed to have the same cover as 'Abesentia-I'd swear the same girl, with those weirdo hands pulling her back, only the background was in red. What IS going on with these covers.
I must add, though I'm sure I'll love 'Bait' more than a chocolate fridge, I wish they hadn't so lazily jumped on the 'Great White' bandwagon. Tiger sharks are equally dangerous and very well-known for prowling shallow waters and eating all sorts of rubbish. It's possible they would have got so excited in the mall (what with being "marine dustbins" as they are dubbed) and eaten everything, including the kitchen sinks and then just sunk, but would have been nice. Seems to me Great Whites are so recognisable that they can't be left alone. Aside from this, I can't wait to see it. Suspect CGI or not (again, if this a problem, then so are other animal attack ones perhaps?), all I know is this has sold hugely in the market already, in a way that slasher 'Cut' was never allowed to do, and Minogue seemed to help it not all, but I think Paramount/Universal screwed up there, as like 'The Rats' the VHS DID come out in the UK as a rental and all the video shops (when they existed back in the early noughties) did get it in, plus it did well in its home county, and around Europe I believe.
I also loved Kristy Swanson, and was disappointed she didn't get to have what seemed to come so easy to Jessicas Alba and Beil, plus Scarlett Johannsson, Amanda Seyfried and others. Ditto DB Sweeney, to say nothing of the hot male cast of 'Hamburger Hill (likely the best war movie ever) and the excellent Chris Makepeace from 'Vamp, and Richard Vidan from 'Scarecrows' and half the 'Pumpkinhead' cast, but that's really it, too much volume in Hollywood and its usually the nonentity meat packages like Paul Walker and Channing Tatum that get everything, and some of the least enticing girls too. The main problem: a field of competent and promising and worthwhile charges, lets ignore them in favour of the bland catwalker steroid cases with their Brazilian-waxed bodies to promote our reps instead and bankroll our steady cashflow. Hollywood solved!
In reply to an earlier post on 30 May 2013 03:25:26 BDT
I felt this film was a lot closer in look and feel to films like Bats, Komodo and Frankenfish, so it made a lot more sense to name those instead of going for the easy option with Jaws and Deep Blue Sea. I fully understand why people like the Mega Piranha type of films, but they're not what i'm looking for in an animal attacker. If an animal attacker takes it seriously, I find myself liking it a lot more right from the start. I think those sort of animal attack films should be a seperate genre to the proper films, they go about their films in a completely different way.
I would have bought Swamp Shark long before I did if it wasn't for that front cover, the way they make the shark look convinced me it would be another horrible film like those we hate, and it really isn't.
It's a shame that great white's are almost the only sharks that are used in shark attack films these days, that's why I enjoyed Shark Night despite the many, many flaws it had.
It's sad that Swanson and Sweeney didn't have the career's thay should have had, indeed the career's they looked like they were going to have early on in their career's. It's always the same isn't it? People that are genuinely talented and deserve to be earning big bucks in interesting roles don't get it, it all goes to the Ken and Barbies that have half the talent but that generic beauty look that Hollywood adores so much. I don't mind Paul Walker and he's not bad at all in a film called Running Scared and I can't pretend that I didn't love Eight Below, but he's definitely not a great actor, very stiff.
In reply to an earlier post on 4 Jun 2013 02:00:28 BDT
I would stand the Mega-Bigger-Huger-Bulkier PythonTigerCrockosh## scumming up the marketplace like the genetically altered hogweed they are if for every few at least one proper animal attack horror gets made, which doesn't happen sadly. So glad the bad cover of 'Swamp Shark' wasn't a reflection of it's quality. Do let us know what bothered you about 'Shark Night' out of interest, but it's still good you liked it. I suppose how they got so many different sharks there for one thing. In 'Deep Blue Sea' there were only a few so you could believe in it better. That many sharks in one place being put there by a few people-er no! Last scene was silly-ish but we can forget it. 10/10 for the dog surviving as they killed one in 'Jaws'. But the characters did kinda present themselves to be killed a bit too much I guess, script could have been tighter.
You're right about the ken and barbies of this world and Paul Walk-off is one of those exact prototypes. His best role was the 'Midnight Express'/'Return To Paradise' rip-off in 1999 with Kate Beckinsale and Claire Danes, basically cos he only had two scenes, but even then he should never have happened. Disliked him when I first saw him in 'Pleasantville' which grew to full blown dislike on 'She's All That'-and in between the months of their passing, you could see him expand on steroids literally before your eyes, but good, though he's got far more roles that someone who should have faded after those two films, all he's got now is that pointless 'Fast & Furious' cycle that just runs on and on. But he's old now and his brothers, like the even worse Tatum are younger (for now). I've such a full list of people I admire and respect, and it's depressing Hollywood is only ever about 6 people or so, most of whom look the same and do the same thing.
In reply to an earlier post on 5 Jun 2013 03:09:00 BDT
It's sad that there's so many of those cheap and nasty animal attackers about, but there are a lot of good ones too. My animal attack/creature feature collection has recently passed the fifty mark, which isn't too shabby at all. It would be all too easy to buy a hundred or more of the cheap films. I can tolerate Mega Piranha and its brothers if i'm really in the right mood, that mood only happens maybe once every year or two. There wasn't anything major that made me dislike Shark Night as I liked it as you know, there was just enough little things that ruined it a little. If anybody asked me what I thought of it, i'd just say that I liked it and it was plenty of fun without saying I liked it apart from this and that. The main thing that irked me a little was the same as in a lot of horror films, it was a bit of a tease as just when you expect to see a brutal attack the camera pulls away or the scene changes, that always annoys me. If you're a horror film, show the horror. I did like the different sharks though, which makes the film worth buying for that alone. It was a little silly how this little rag tag team had managed to get all those sharks to that area, and the whole recording the murders and showing it online to rich folk or whatever it was is a stretch but I enjoyed it. Always nice to see the dog survive, but as it's not real i'm not overly fussed either way. I love a lot of films that has a lot more wrong with it than Shark Night.
Return To Paradise is a brilliant film that had a really moving ending, it's nice to see the talent that Vince Vaughn had before settling into comedy stuff. Though it isn't as good as Return To Paradise, I did like Brokedown Palace quite a lot and thought it was one of Kate Backinsale's and Claire Danes' best performances, especially Beckinsale who had several really good performances before Underworld came along and she started to coast. I remember Walker's cameo in the film as one of the friends that visits them, hehas such a small part that i'd forgotten he was in it until the credits rolled and I saw his name again. I've said for years that Paul Walker is lucky so many people think he's pretty, or his career would have died years ago. As he gets older he's either going to drift into B movie obscurity or fade away completely, if he wants to stick around he's got a lot of hard work with an acting coach ahead of him. I'm not a fan of Tatum at all, don't like his acting.
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Or lack of acting-and the fact he can't do anything without taking his clothes and altenatively hoping you'll dry-hump him, while giving you the "I gonna punch you out" glare, ooga booga!
You so hit the nail on the head when you say "show the horror" that's exactly what I can't stand about all the lies like 'Sinister', 'Last Exorcism', 'Eden Lake', 'Them' i.e no horror to show cos it's just stupid people-on-people thriller cack of fake cheats= same thing! Yes 'Shark Night' did wimp out over the kills in places. Exactly what I'll never get about the moaners who STILL whinge about 'The Haunting' '99 and keep repeating what it so "criminally" did over the original. YES I BLOODY KNOW! I AGREE! It showed stuff, it was supposed to, what's your point? I scream. Oh, you're braying it's a bad idea. Well, don't be stupid, I say, this is a film about ghosts, a haunting in 1999, we NEED/WANT/EXPECT to see them, there was nothing TO SEE in 196-bloody-3! Phew! I just regurgitated this again, wearingly, not for you or to you, but because on a discussion sight, the whiners are going on about too much CGI "ruining" horrors today. Ello, peeps, I think you'll find it's cheating no-horrors and inept, incomprehensible cannibalism masquerading as "undead" ruining things today.
I love that you said you love films that have a lot more wrong than 'Shark Night'. It's so the right way to see it, you'd swear movies are only bad now cos they're made now according to some and if it was made some 15 years ago, it wouldn't be so bad in people's eyes, but still bad! WT?!
Kate Beckinsale has such promise. My fave film with her is the excellent 'The Last Days Of Disco'-I highly recommend it, certainly for me way better than 'Boogie Nights' and the average 'Studio 54'. She also has 'Laurel Canyon', 'Shooting Fish', good thriller 'Vacancy', drama 'Fragments' and 'Brokedown Palace' to recommend, but since 'Pearl Harbour' took her to stardom, she coasts as you said, I just relayed this argument to someone 5mins ago who said childishly "I defy anyone to name me a film she wasn't atrocious" in. Perlease! She was so good initially that some spoke of her as being 2 different actresses-a US one and a UK one, mainly for her stellar 1997-1999 work, which I've just mentioned, though 'Laurel Canyon' is from 2002. A great thing to follow dumb 'P Harbour' with.
While 'Brokedown' was a rip-off of those two films, it's certainly better than many made out, several out that month far worse were 'American Pie' but then that stuff is just not me, and 'Cruel Intetions' for a start. Walk-off did have a tiny role in 'BP' and that makes me even angrier-ther he was being cast from the cast he came from in everything that year, why the HELL should he appear in that too, when a million better males could have. He has been around 15 years too many and the sonner his implants burst and carry him off the better, and even moreso with the vile Tatum.
Just saw 'Swamp Shark' after buying it, I found it's a little up and down with me, though I loved Kristy in it and wish she'd get more stuff and is she still looking great. It's the sort of animal feature that jumps from okay to pretty good, and then gets silly. Armoured shark? Be better if they stuck to an actual species. CGI really came and went, and some scenes were at daft odds with the serious approach of Kristy and co trying to save their restaurant, so I'll keep it for her, but it's no 'Chaw' by a long shot, and I do prefer 'Shark Night'. Hoping the next one I take a chance on will be better, it might be 'Maneater' if it goes down, but I can't wait for 'Bait' but I do need that price tumbling, esp as I won't be getting the blu-ray, as I don't have a player, yet both it and the normal DVD price are about the same for now.
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It's hard to take someone like Tatum seriously as an actor when he's basically played several variations of the same shirtless character in most of his early films, but to his credit, he does appear to have started looking for roles that requires a bit of acting rather than taking his shirt off. I'm not a fan, but I find him a lot more tolerable than someone like Taylor Lautner who really is awful.
I love a good thriller, but I don't like it when a film is marketed as a horror film when it's really a thriller. I go into a thriller with a completely different mindset than I do a horror, that's why i'm always willing to give a film a second chance, because a silly amount of films these days are being completely mismarketed. I don't really mind a horror film not showing the monster if it has a great atmosphere and well written characters, like in Absentia. If you don't have that, then showing us the horror, the monster, is pretty much the only saving grace. The Haunting kind of fits my point quite nicely, the original didn't show anything but had lots of atmosphere, the remake didn't have that, so it rightly went in the other direction and showed us everything the original didn't/couldn't. I've grown to really enjoy the remake because it throws everything at the screen, it's a very visual film which does make up for the lack of dread.
I think I partially agree that films just aren't as good now as they used to be, and that's for several different reasons like too much CGI, 3D, too many remakes because most original ideas are already gone, I think we've already discussed how a lot of recent horror films look too slick and clean. When I was younger I used to really look forward to the big summer blockbusters, i'm suddenly finding myself almost completely dismissing them straight away and continuing to search for older films i've so far missed. There are plenty of good films still being made, but I keep finding myself drawn to older films more and more. As you know though, I will give any film a chance, especially horror. I also know that I love a lot of films that aren't well made, they simply have a charm that makes me love them.
I was a fan of Beckinsale until Underworld, while the first wasn't that bad a film, i've really not liked the later sequels and she's not put in a performance that comes anywhere near her '90s work in a long time. I recently watched the Total Recall remake and Whiteout, not impressed with either performance. She's still a stunning woman, but has got stuck in the same rut that Milla Jovovich has, doing ever worse sequels and doing films with their husband's where they just seem to want to show them off. They now simply coast, happens so often once they make it, Johnny Depp did the exact same thing, almost everything he did was great or at least interesting until he did Pirates, he became a superstar and almost everything he's done since has been garbage.
It's nice to hear how much you completely dispise Walker and Tatum, like me you seem to give most films and actors every chance in the world, but sometimes you just get a film or an actor that is truly awful and deserve some hate.
I think my three stars is just about spot on for Swamp Shark, like you, I thought it was mostly decent and then has a few great moments that is then almost instantly scratched off by something silly happening. I loved the relationship between Swanson and Sweeney, I really didn't love the last five minutes of the film and i'm sure you also noticed that it ended in a very similar way to Frankenfish with the propellor. It's clearly not to the same standard as Jaws, Jaws 2, The Reef and all sorts of other animal attack films, but it's head and shoulders above those mega crap films. I might take a chance on the Maneater triple pack 1 in the next few weeks, annoying that it's actually cheaper to order a new US copy of Bait than it is to get the region 2 version. The price will surely drop soon, I suspect it'll be about £5 within a month or two.
In reply to an earlier post on 6 Jul 2013 03:12:16 BDT
And familiarity breeds contempt. I was just watching 'The Sisters' tonight with my sister, a drama based on a stage play by Chekov, and it was a little-seen ensemble film with a dazzling array of male talent, and it focused on them as much as the women it. Steven Culp, Tony Goldwyn, Alessandro Nivola, Eric MsCormack, all flowing nicely together. Every now and then a film gets the acting mix so right. Yet for Hollywood it's all about the unattractive waxed dolls. What I DON'T want to hear is Tatum looking for roles to 'stretch' the fat git, he'd need something the size of America itself with his girth-NOT a compliment. This is a cynical and predictable next move in the "I need to be taken seriously to hang around and be loved AND respected" and that just makes me hate him even MORE! Lautner is bad, but he is irrelevant. It's Tatum who is the plague, the new Madonna of film, the new Cruise and McConaughey-not worthy of even a popcorn no-brainer, yet in everything that gets made. He'll soon be starring in things before they're even conceived and the sooner he bites it the better!
I so love the way the '99 'Haunting' always gets the praise with you, it's so tiresome to keep hearing the old "worst film of 90s/remake etc" ever from everyone, even though same people find plenty of each others to bash on discussion sites of bad movies! I love thrillers myself, but don't find many fit the thrill bill for me. Nonetheless I've a fair few I really dig: 'Enemy Of The State', 'The End Of Violence', 'Cellular', 'Don't Say A Word', 'Knockaround Guys', 'Disturbia', 'Chaos' with Ryan Phillipe and Jase Statham, and 'The Last Castle' for instance. But these things were never marketed as horrors whereas crap like 'Eden Lake', 'Cherry Tree Lane' etc. are, but I don't just hate them for that reason, they also happen to be crap anyway. Actually sad drama/news/soap clippings, insult to thrillers to call them that.
I think hunting out films you may have missed and older ones is definitely the way to go, things are so bad today, but of course good things'll come through they'll just do it quietly.
Again, agree with you on KBeckinsale. The first 'Underworld' was fine for what it was, but it did not merit any sequel at all, especially the truly bad ones it did get and continuews too. Most interesting thing Jovovich's done in the past 10 years (baring in my mind I disregard 'Resident Evils' anyway) was thriller 'The Perfect Getaway' which had a good twist and good actors, Zahn and Olyphant, an inspired mix and nice to see Marley Shelton again, if only briefly and the other blonde girl was good too. Jovovich to me is just a model who tires acting now and again and for some of 'TPGetaway' she is pretty bad in it. About halfway through she starts to work better. Good twist at the end, this managed not to be marketed as a horror everywhere, but did in some places! Oh deeaarr! Again you're spot on with Depp aswell, he's become the institution he's supposed to despise.
I don't like hating wannabee actors anymore than I'd want to suffer them, but Tatum/Walker are yuk-prime examples of literal ham that Hollywood is all about and neither have nor should have a right to be offending me ears, eyes, enraging me everytime I see them and, worse, taking roles away from proper ones. All around them were dozens of hot male yet non-stereotypical talent-Mackenzie Astin, George Newbern, Alessandro Nivola, Wes Bentley, Daniel Lapaine, Desmond Harrington, Josh Lucas, Ezra Godden, Jason Priestley, Dylan Walsh, Thomas Jane, Brendan Fletcher, Michael McMillian, Loren Dean, Dan Futterman, Timothy Olyphant, Scott Caan, Shawn Hatosy, Shawn Ashmore, Rick Schroder etc. the list goes on and on, yet they get nothing.
Thankfully other adept, multi-functioning yet truly good-looking dudes like Ryan Phillipe, Josh Hartnett and Jeremy Sisto made the market work for them, they remain recognised yet embracing of projects that are different, risky and interesting, yet never go away for too long. And some slightly oddball ones like Giovanni Ribisi and Adrien Brody have won through with their considerable talents, and have some digging their truly unconventional non-bums on seats looks. True, I go into most films giving the actors/actresses a chance, and usually it works, cos I get on far more with acting ones than music ones, the music industry's a bleeding loss. But runts like Tatum and Walker spoil everything, and the sad truth is, you wouldn't know the good outweihed the bad cos it's the bad you see non-stop al the time, so they're really might be 300 of them, but then I've already said US 'actors' are deliberately manufactured, not nurtured and encouraged.
I tired to ignore that last 'Frankenfish' like scene but I couldn't! Ultimately it fell short for me, but boy is it better than those mega beggars, yes, I'd never compare it, except maybe its worst moments. I'll hold you to 'Bait' being a fiver by August!
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I like a few of those actors you mention in your first paragraph, I've always been surprised that Goldwyn and Nivola aren't a lot more successful than they are. I understand how it annoys you even more that someone like Tatum tries to grow as an actor, but I think most actors do that to be fair. Will Tatum ever be taken seriously as an actor? Maybe, but it'll take a lot more than what he's currently doing. I know you also dislike Matthew McConaughey, the most annoying thing with him is that he is capable of actually giving good performances but so often chooses horrible parts in romantic comedies. He was better than a lot of people give him credit for in a film called Frailty, and recently in films like The Lincoln Lawyer and Killer Joe. Ashton Kutcher annoys me for the same reason, constantly plays to his looks and takes awful roles, but he also proved he can act in The Butterfly Effect. Paul Walker on the other hand is just a pretty face who is always really wooden, sometimes he gets lucky in a film called Running Scared where the writing is good enough to compensate.
As time passes, I like The Haunting more and more. Then again, with every new awful special effects laden nightmare like Battleship or Transformers, The Haunting looks more and more masterful in its use of special effects. I enjoyed all those thrillers you mention, especially Knockaround Guys which was another film that proved Vin Diesel is more than just a meathead. Diesel has been typecast but what most people don't realise is that he wrote, produced, directed and starred in his first film called Strays which is pretty good, most people also haven't seen a film he did called Find Me Guilty where he was excellent. I think far too many people form an opinion on certain actors without having seen anywhere near all their work, Diesel is a perfect example of that.
I have a massive dvd and Blu-ray collection now that has hundreds, if not thousands of films that were made before the end of the '80s, but I have absolutely no doubt that there's just as many great films that I'm yet to find. Good films are still being made, but for now I'm happy to concentrate and finding all the great films I've so far missed.
I'm a big fan of The Perfect Getaway, there's a lot that I loved about it from the acting, the direction, the writing and the superb cinematography. Jovovich is a pretty good actress when she gets the right part, she's been coasting now for quite a long time. The Fourth Kind, Faces In The Crowd and the last couple of Resident Evil films have been awful. She actually made an album in 1994 called The Divine Comedy which is actually a very good album with some outstanding songs on it. It's a shame she decided to almost completely abandon music to concentrate on acting, as based on that album, that's possibly where her greatest talent lies. Like you say, Depp has pretty much become everything he used to (at least used to say he) despised. Depp was one of my very favourite actors for a long time up until Pirates, it then seemed he decided to take the money and success over the genuinely interesting roles and critical acclaim. The Depp I liked throughout the '80s and '90s would never have taken some of the roles he has in the last ten years.
I'm not familiar with all those other actors you mention, but I'm shocked that people like Josh Lucas, Desmond Harrington, Thomas Jane and a few of the others haven't gone on to be much bigger.
I really like Sisto, he has that crazy character down perfectly, he did a very good show that got cancelled after one season called Kidnapped, such a shame it was cancelled. Ribisi and Brody are just that good that they were always going to make it, Brody is one of my favourite actors and if it wasn't for his slightly different appearance, he would be an absolute superstar.
In reply to an earlier post on 13 Jul 2013 04:16:25 BDT
I think Jason Patric, Tony Goldwyn, Lessy Nivola, Matt Dillon, James Le Gros, Dermot Mulroney etc. are as big as they need to be-the reality is proper films like 'Mumford', 'The Last Days Of Disco', 'Playing By Heart', 'Nurse Betty', 'Comic Bokk Villains', 'Sleep With Me' etc. are all made with the understood reality they're not FOR the box office, which is where losers like Walker and Tatum differ entirely and just in so-called looks. But again anyone with half a brain who can look beyond it will take someone like Mr Nivola and realise an outsnading CV with no two films alike and very few of them 'box-officy'. From a cameo in 'Face Off', he got the lead in 'I Want You', 'Best Lais Plans' and 'Love Labour's Lost' all in 1999, starred in cool blockbuster 'Jurassic Park III' in 2001 and alongside Kate Beckinsale in one of her last great movies 'Laurel Canyon' a year later. 'Coco Chanel', The Sisters' and the US remake of 'The Eye' are more notable appearances, but Hollywood will only ever be about the minority of fakes, not the greats that dip in and outide of the mainstream which is really the best way to do it. With Mattheugh Mahogany, I just don't like him, most annoying accent ever, ruins 'Boys On The Side' whenever he turns up, I even growl at one of his first roles-a cameo in 'My Boyfriend's Back' aka 'Johnny "Zombie", and what I hate most is, unlike the majority of people I detest (like Cruise) I can ignore filmically cos they don't make what I care to see, but Mahogany has a nasty knack of doing just that. I would want to see 'Killer Joe' but enduring him as a killer will feel like swimming backwards in wet clay before it hardens, and I think that's what he's made from anyway. 'EDTV' I've always liked, if only someone else had got his role, 'Licoln Lawyer' again, halfway through he does become good, but he still talks like the complete tw@t he is and everything he does many others would do so much better. Dermot Mulroney, for instance, so impresses me cos he never has to be the headliner, he mucks in as part of a group and often picks things another actors would consider 'girly', yet without being termed a "star", he's consistently managed to keep popping up in some form in films people see and even scored a surpise horror hit a few years ago with 'The Grey'.
With the lovely '99 'Haunting' the FX did not take over the story for me, they were an integral part of its deliberate destination, whereas 'Transformers' and many other things today are full of FX yet always get that charitable beyone belief 'gulity pleasure, empty but fun' tag. Er, no, it's crap people, just say it. You always do about stuff that isn't-like the '99 'Haunting' for instance. And you'll never see these FX laden thriller jokes employ performances anywhere near as potent as wha the 4 stars of 'The Huning' gave us.
I was pleased to see J Lucas popping up in 'Lincoln Lawyer'-he gets likened to that Mahogany mess sometimes, what a joke! It's so unfair with all these dudeds getting rum deals, but Thomas Jane has continued to do good work, which is why we don't see him much, but his mate Aaron Eckheart now does nothing but pap, so good for Thomas. At the end of the day it's all about the money men in Hollywood. Many ral women aren't getting cast, but I now believe the men have it almost as tough, cos they never do either. As astonishing Brit Jim Sturgess said some months back "I'm never gonna look like Channing Tatum and that's what Hollywood wants". S-a-y-s i-t a-l-l!
'The Perfect Getaway' employed the kind of killer twist that loser horror film-makers and whodunnits trip over themselves to present all the time-and badly, but this film did it so well and it beat the hell out of the barely average 'Paradise Lost'.
I remember 'Kidnapped'he was in good company, Jez Sisto, the redoubtable Brit Linus Roache, Timothy Hutton and Dana Delaney starred in it too, well the best series always get cancelled quick.
Lookwise it's a shame, but then again I'd say Adrien Brody is a star cos many know his name and he gets quite high-profile roles, so he still doing better than many termed more 'immediate looking'.
Btw a really rude thing has happened with 'Hansel and Gretel'-it won't effect you but I don't have a blu-ray player as yet, and we're now at a point were the cool horrors/thrillers I like are getting longer cuts and extras only on blu-ray editions and the usual DVD being deliberately stripped, notice ths with 'Hunger Games'. These manufactuers need shooting. How hard is it to put extended cut on the usual DVD and a few meagre extras. For God's sake enough people still buy usual DVDs, especially are there's more choice of titles and they're cheaper!
How long did you keep your dvd player before updating to blu-ray or do you keep both. Did you find a good deal when you got our blu-ray player?
In reply to an earlier post on 15 Jul 2013 08:33:16 BDT
I totally get what you're saying with the whole Nivola, Patrick, Dillon, Goldwyn are where they need to be considering they're making films that are never going to be big in the first place, what annoys me is that they give excellent performances in those small films which should then boost them to a higher level, though that would probably mean the bigger films they were doing would be worse anyway. I don't really understand how Walker and Tatum got to be where they are now, it isn't like they spent tn years perfecting their craft in independent films and then got lazy once they made it, they just appeared like magic in big budget awful films. You know exactly what type of film you're getting with a Tom Cruise film don't you? So it is really easy to avoid them, whereas McConaughey quite often appears in films that are quite interesting like Killer Joe, The Lincoln Lawyer, Contact, Ed TV, Frailty, A Time To Kill, basically the sort of films Cruise wouldn't do. I don't mind McConaughey and I certainly like him a lot more than I did a few years ago, but if you don't like him, there's some really good stuff that would be ruined because of his involvement. I've liked Dermot Mulroney since I was a kid as I loved The Young Guns, he isn't that well known but he's had a very good career. Most of my favourite actors tend to be those that are normally found in supporting roles, they're what I like to call character actors that nearly always play completely different characters, most leading men play a slightly different version of the same character again and again.
I think films being built around the effects rather than the effects being there to help the film is what's wrong with so many new films, look at blockbusters like T2 or even the new Batman films, the effects are done practically when they can be and they're only ever there to advance the story, Transformers or Battleship is tons and tons of CGI and then it's like they shoot scenes of explosions and robots fighting and then try and add some story in between. I don't mind action films where you can switch your brain off and enjoy some mindless entertainment, but I don't find CGI shot after CGI shot with grotesquely shot fight sequences entertaining, Battleship and Transformers did exactly what those type of films should never be, they were boring.
The Perfect Getaway wasn't an outstanding film, and yet it was everything I wanted Paradise Lost to be. I own Paradise Lost and it really was a disappointment, but I'll still take something like that over Transformers.
Even though I switched over to Blu-ray about four or five years ago, I do quite often still buy certain films on dvd. One of the really annoying things is the extras being on the Blu-ray but not the dvd, you should have just as much right to see the extras as someone who's bought the Blu-ray. It's disgusting that you're almost being forced to make the move to Blu-ray to get extras or even more disgusting, to get the extended version. It's even worse than you think though, there's now several Blu-ray releases that are missing extras that the 3d Blu-ray has, like Prometheus. I really wanted to buy Prometheus on Blu-ray and then realised I would need to get the 3d version for all the extras, instead of getting my £10-15 for the Blu-ray, they're now getting absolutely nothing from me as I won't buy a 3d version because it's nothing more than a gimmick. 3d is a horrible thing and isn't anywhere near as liked or successful as the money men would have us believe, forcing people to watch a cinema release in 3d like I had to with Dredd as there was no 2d version in my local cinema, and making people buy the 3d Blu-ray for extras is the only way they can force 3d to the masses. If I could, I would have watched Dredd in 2d, I would buy Prometheus in 2d, if I'm forced to buy the 3d versions then they can say how successful 3d is and continue to push it. 3d has been going for decades now and then keeps disappearing again, I've no doubt in a few years it'll be gone again.
I kept my dvd player when I bought the Blu-ray player because it's region free and I needed it to play my region 1 dvds which my Blu-ray player can't. It was only about six months ago that my dvd player broke and I bought another one despite having the Blu-ray player, there's far too many films unavailable over here for me to give up my dvd player unless I pay well over £200 for a region free Blu-ray player.