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4.0 out of 5 stars Although , it really is a ten star film!, 12 Oct. 2012
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This review is from: The Terminator [Blu-ray] [1984] [Region Free] (Blu-ray)
Cant believe I completely missed the release date on this classic film on Blu-ray and only just received it nearly two weeks after it was available.
This was the film that kick started Cameron's career , and with the huge success with this and all his other films (where he and he alone can only outgross himself at the box office) he's been firmly placed with the big players in Hollywood...and rightly so!
This film has always been a firm favourite of mine and its still just as popular after nearly 30 years and have bought many versions throughout the decades.

Although this film already had a Blu-ray release for a while now (US import only) , I never bought it , as I find US imports to be tricky at best when playing them in the UK... Sometimes they work , sometimes they don't , but this newer UK version is a vast improvement from previous released formats and I can quite honestly say that the picture quality is now just how it should be.
Though the film was mostly shot at night (..mostly) , the daytime scenes are the ones that impress the most with the overall quality.
Detail has to be seen to be believed and you'd be forgiven into thinking that this was filmed on anything other than a state of the art HD camera as facial closeups are just astounding ! Being able to see the pours in peoples skin and count the individual hairs on their heads is pretty amazing , especially when you think just how low a budget this film was , it impresses me even more and can now hold its head up very highly indeed in the quality stakes.

When it came to the old Remastered DVD , for whatever reason , and I really can't get my head around as to who thought this was a good idea , the Future War prologues original text had been replaced with cheap nasty subtitles (the kind you'd find on Ceefax) , but thankfully , this has now been replaced back to its original text on this Blu-ray... Not even George "Because I can" Lucas would have tampered with that , but you do get the feeling that this had nothing to do with any choices Cameron had made , and any input in the last two format releases had been left in the hands of corporate owners who think they know better !

The sound... Hmmm , tricky one this. Although its presented in 5.1 DTS master audio there are some good points and some bad.
The good points are that the sound is better than its ever been and the surround effects of ricocheting bullets , screams and explosions are fantastically transferred with a rich crisp clarity... However!
The bad points are that certain sounds (not all , but mainly gunshots) have been replaced with different gunfire sound FX from its original theatrical and VHS release.
Although this alteration was done a couple of years back on the Remastered DVD to accommodate for the newly improved sound format of the time , it still sticks out like a sore thumb from someone who has watched this film over a tragazillion times and was kind of hoping with the new technology of today , it would have been possible to simply enhance the original sound and put it back.
Brad Fiedel's score (although brilliant) almost suffers with the new clarity. Apart from the iconic main theme , the new and improved clarity with the sound makes other parts of the music score just sound that more... "electronically 80's" if that makes any sense to you as you can quite literally hear the datedness of the keyboard that he's using.

Although , I really must stress that these "bad points" really are just my own personal discrepancies that I have with the sound , and in no way am I slating the excellent quality of the transfer , so this really shouldn't put you off upgrading this film at all.

Extras are a bit of a let down by getting slightly less than the Remastered DVD. Most of the extras are here , but the "Other Voices" documentary has been omitted on this Blu-ray release and can't for the life of me think why they have done this , so don't get rid of your Remastered DVD version just yet !
Its always a pet hate of mine when features are skimped on with Blu-ray as there really is NO EXCUSE for companies to do this... Its not like there isn't enough room on a Blu-ray (50GB) to fit it all in , and its a shame that Cameron hasn't done a commentary or even add the old half hour "making of" that you got on VHS , along with everything else instead of giving you less when making a transfer... Again , feels like corporate muppets interfering.

The film itself really is worth a ten star rating , MINIMUM ! And the new picture and sound are a huge improvement over previous releases and despite what some reviewers are saying , this film is NOT CUT in anyway shape or form no matter what running time is advertised !
All in all , this is a very worthy upgrade , but have dropped one star purely for skimping on the documentaries and the lack of anything new on the extras , as I'll only ever review the product and not the film itself.
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Initial post: 7 Nov 2012 04:02:38 GMT
can you tell me if the blu ray has portuguese brazilian subtitles???

In reply to an earlier post on 7 Nov 2012 11:17:57 GMT
Last edited by the author on 7 Nov 2012 11:26:29 GMT
Julian says:
Yes, it does have Portuguese and Spanish subtitles

In reply to an earlier post on 15 Dec 2012 17:27:22 GMT
A Fisher says:
Was that Aliens in that review with the (...mostly) quote? :D

In reply to an earlier post on 16 Dec 2012 06:25:20 GMT
Julian says:
It most certainly was

Posted on 14 Jan 2013 07:31:04 GMT
S J Buck says:
Just a quick point, I believe that any movie, if the film stock has survived/been looked after, will look great on bluray as cinema films are higher quality. Think how big a cinema screen is, and then imagine that compressed down to a widescreen TV. Its the reverse of expanding stuff on Youtube where the quality decreases. Great review btw.

In reply to an earlier post on 14 Jan 2013 08:02:18 GMT
Last edited by the author on 14 Jan 2013 08:20:12 GMT
Julian says:
Thank you.
Not always the case, some Blu-rays are terrible quality (e.g Jurassic Park, Oceans Trilogy) compared to its VHS, DVD or Laserdisc transfers...Really couldn't say why these have suffered so badly when making the transfer, but you do come across some.
Star trek the Motion Picture has actually gone backwards from DVD on the Blu-ray.
Picture quality on DVD was a brand new cleaned up print, but the Blu-ray has scratches/dust particles back so you have to be a little wary when buying older (anything pre 2006) movies on blu-ray.

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Jan 2013 13:56:44 GMT
Jeff Pipsey says:
35mm film negative will have as good if not better resolution and dynamic range than the results of cinematographic HD digital cameras at the moment, so if scanned properly and well at high resolution it can look just as excellent if not better on a 1080p bluray. Like you say though it's the transfer that can be the problem: at the very least a bluray of (35mm) film stock source will have a scan of a print (most preferably the negative) at an equivalent resolution of '1080p'. The trouble is, if the source print isn't cleaned before scan (and the source print needs a clean) then you're going to get dust and scratches. If no post scan digital cleanup is done then the scratches and dust will still be there. I guess some of these poorer bluray examples may have just saved cost by just scanning with minimal cleanup. Also, I wonder if some of them have been scanned from latter generation prints (like release cinema prints) as these, being copies, will have decreased in resolution from the original negative.

I guess dust and scratches will not look quite as obvious on lower resolution DVDs, but you would still definitely be able to tell if it is a cleaned up print as you say. Only trouble, is if the DVD used cheap post digital processing like noise reduction to clean up the image - in which case it will look cleaner but maybe at the expense of losing detail (which you probably wouldn't notice on DVD resolution). This is more a problem when dealing with film grain though: an accurate scan of a negative used for bluray resolution may show up a lot of film grain, which probably would have been less pronounced on a softer film projected release print or lower resolution of a DVD. Using digital post-processing to remove grain is at the expense of losing detail though, so while it could be argued that a DVD resolution would not show that detail, I do wonder whether some smooth and clean looking DVDs are as bad as blurays with too much digital processing that have lost detail and some of the grain that gives its natural filmic look.

In reply to an earlier post on 19 Jan 2013 18:24:39 GMT
Last edited by the author on 19 Jan 2013 18:26:06 GMT
Julian says:
Can you tell me what the correct terminology is for "The speckling effect" that you get on Blu-rays?
I always refer it as "The grain effect" which some people confuse me with it being the films intentional grain.
Jurassic Park (Blu-ray) is the worst culprit I own for this nasty image problem, yet the Laserdisc version was absolutely flawless, razor sharp, contamination free, but this is from technology over 20 years old, so what went so horribly wrong with the Blu-rays?

Posted on 5 Feb 2013 05:31:26 GMT
i have to agree with you on the gun shot sounds i love this film and when i had bought the dvd version i noticed straight away that the gun noises had changed and also when the cam switches to the view from the terminators red vision the sounds are are also differnt so very annoying but great film

In reply to an earlier post on 14 Jul 2014 21:03:02 BDT
BMovieFan says:
I noticed this straight away too, having seen the film many times and it ruined the experience for me. I bought the US DVD which has the original mono soundtrack (and the original captions for the future war opening). The US DVD is a must-have for die hard Terminator fans!
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