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This review is from: The Men on the Sixth Floor (Kindle Edition)
for JFK assassination researchers / buffs. With the video evidence of movement behind more than one window of the TSBD's 6th floor the material / testimonies in this book make compelling reading
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Initial post: 30 Oct 2011 08:32:53 GMT
There is no 'video evidence of movement behind more than one window of the TSBD' and this book doesn't contain any 'testimonies' at all. It contains a loose collection of half-baked, un-sworn eyewash.
In reply to an earlier post on 31 Oct 2011 12:10:29 GMT
...Watch Robert Groden's excellent compilation of all the known video footage entitled 'All The Assassination Films' for definitive PROOF of movement via more than one window on the 6th Flr of the TSBD
In reply to an earlier post on 1 Nov 2011 16:58:46 GMT
Yes, everyone knows what Groden thinks, but, of course, he's not trained or qualified in photographic analysis.
As far back as 1993, the `final word' on this `movement' issue was reiterated when the last in a long line of professionally engaged (and accredited) annalists - Francis Corbett and Robert A. Gonsalves - agreed with all previous studies that no-one was walking about behind the window, Gonsalves said, "That's grain noise walking about".
The Bronson and Hughes films merit a whole chapter each in the 1994 book by Richard Trask, `Pictures Of The Pain', check it out, don't rely on Groden, he's an amateur.
In reply to an earlier post on 1 Nov 2011 17:26:51 GMT
No disrespect to you but exactly what credentials do you have ? Robert Groden's not a trained / qualified photo analyst ( that's the correct spelling btw ) and an 'amateur' ??!? For the record I don't - and nor should others - solely rely on one individual in this case however Groden is a respected and learned individual in this field unlike say Gerald Posner. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree as opinions vary on this matter - always have done and always will - and opinions are also like a55holes...ie...everybody's got one.
In reply to an earlier post on 2 Nov 2011 06:27:04 GMT
Last edited by the author on 2 Nov 2011 09:59:34 GMT
The absence of movement from the Hughes and Bronson films isn't a matter of `opinion', it's a matter of fact.
You cited Groden's dvd and I have pointed out that he is untrained and unqualified to offer any informed opinion on the content of film and photographs. He is, therefore, not a `learned individual in this field', as you assert. He's a ten-a-penny conspiracy buff. Unfortunately he's also teetering on the brink of insanity. Back in April he made an appearance on Black-Ops radio in which he claimed that "..twelve to fifteen shots.." were fired at JFK. No typo there, twelve to fifteen! Check the loony out here: (Pick it up from about six minutes in, that's when Mr. Conspiracy really goes loopy) http://www.box.net/shared/ez0fblgpnzg4y89
In reply to an earlier post on 9 Nov 2011 10:42:43 GMT
Thanks for that Barry...have also ordered Trask's book...any other research / recommended views / reads / new stuff you know of will be greatly appreciated.
In reply to an earlier post on 10 Nov 2011 07:27:00 GMT
Last edited by the author on 10 Nov 2011 07:29:39 GMT
Many thanks for your reply.
I am genuinely glad that you found my comment useful.
Trask's book is good and I'm sure that you'll enjoy it.
My suggestion would be to check out the two best `Lone Assassin' websites first.
I recommend davidvonpein.blogspot.com and mcadams.posc.mu.edu
Both of these have huge amounts of archive material, essays and top-notch research on every aspect of the assassination.
As for books, well, I've reviewed all of my own `assassination bookshelf' here on amazon and I've compiled a `list mania`, too.
The aforementioned John McAdams has just had a book published called, `Assassination Logic', I've got it and read it already. It's very good.
A final few words about Groden, if I may.
Many wrongly believe that Groden was the `photographic consultant' to the HSCA. He was actually just one of them. He did not sit on the panel that examined the material. He was invited to give the panel a `presentation' of what he regarded as 'evidence of conspiracy and fakery in the photographic record'. The panel listened to him and examined his submissions. They concluded that he was wrong on all counts.
More recently, he was challenged at the `voir dire' stage of the O. J. Simpson murder trail on the matter of his qualifications and expertise in the field of photographic analysis. I can send you a link to the trial transcript, should you want it. Groden was exposed as being a high-school drop-out who had never even attended a course on photographic analysis - much less taught one.
Two or three years ago he was peddling a story of how he had `found' a witness who could vouch for Oswald's whereabouts at the time of the shooting.
He claimed that a lady who worked at the TSBD had told him that she was giving Oswald change for the Coke machine when she and he both heard the shots. Groden even related the exchange of words that the two supposedly had.
The lady implored Groden not to reveal her identity until after she had died. She has since died according to Groden but he's not going to name her publicly - but he will in his forthcoming book.
Most folks know who this witness was. Her name was Genever Hine and she did actually testify before the WC. Her testimony bears no resemblance to Groden's tale, of course.
Conveniently, Groden didn't film or tape the interview.
The most obvious question that presents itself is, if Oswald had an alibi that could be supported by a witness, why didn't he use it?
Thanks again for your reply and reading this.
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