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Anyone remember a show called Doctor Who?,
This review is from: Doctor Who - The Time of the Doctor & Other Eleventh Doctor Christmas Specials [DVD] (DVD)
There used to be a show called Doctor Who, about a traveller in time and space. He visited alien planets, and sometimes the Earth of the past and the future, and got himself involved in various adventures. Frequently he was called upon to save the day, and usually did so.
It was a fun show for the average viewer, not for a fan base. You didn't need to have watched loads of other episodes in order to enjoy it, as the stories largely stood on their own two feet.
Even though the show was called Doctor Who, the stories were not actually ABOUT the Doctor, or his companions. They were about the people, cultures and alien menaces they encountered.
It was a great format - high stakes, lots of adventure, lots of fun.
They should bring it back.
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Initial post: 1 Jan 2014 14:39:27 GMT
Mr. C. F. Kay says:
I am a lifelong Doctor who fan, and yet I still agree with you.
The stories are often too complicated, just for the writers benefit.
I used to love the beginning of each new story as a whole new world with new people appeared.
In reply to an earlier post on 2 Jan 2014 10:24:47 GMT
Yes, I agree.
The Doctor and his companions were just a given; what made the show entertaining was seeing where the TARDIS had fetched up each week and what scenario/characters/opponents were going to be waiting.
Whereas nowadays the whole thing is just about the Doctor himself (and his companions) which is boring.
Posted on 2 Jan 2014 23:25:16 GMT
OMG, you've absolutely knock the nail on the head there. Even though I did enjoy the Christmas episode, I don't like the way the general format has gone. And it all seems to have happened since Steven Moffat took over. Hopefully he'll see this!
Posted on 6 Jan 2014 03:49:02 GMT
Last edited by the author on 24 Jan 2014 01:49:56 GMT
A. Holliday says:
Spot on. But to some extent DW is doing what it's always done (except in the mid 1980s when it lost its mojo completely) and reflected the times its being made in. We're living through an era of the cult of celebrity, so the show has changed to reflect that. Instead of a show about a story with the Dr in it (usually, but not always, in a central role), its now a show about the Doctor as celebrity with scraps of story as window dressing. When/if the general levels of idolatry/narcissism fade (probably under the weight of terminal boredom), the show will change again.
I certainly hope so.
In reply to an earlier post on 6 Jan 2014 09:31:13 GMT
A brilliant and original analysis sir!
Posted on 8 Jan 2014 02:02:34 GMT
The overwhelming majority of episodes are still standalone stories. Arc-stories like this are exceptions and usually can still be viewed on their own, as important information needed to follow the plot is relayed within such episodes. There have been several larger arcs throughout the show's history and the Doctor and his companions have occasionally stepped to the forefront of certain episodes as early as the very first episodes. Just because a few episodes do something rare or new doesn't mean the show is bad.
You want to know what Doctor Who is really about? It's about change, experimenting with new ideas, stories, formats, characters and settings. If the show had never changed it would have ended 47 years ago.
In reply to an earlier post on 8 Jan 2014 07:01:29 GMT
And yet we've had an entire season/story-arc literally about the revelation of the Doctor's name (who cares what his name is?) and consecutive specials called 'Day of the Doctor' and 'Time of the Doctor'. If that's not a show which is starting to look at its own navel, what is?
It doesn't help that Moffat has also turned the Doctor into a kind of intergalactic smart-alec who high-fives his companion at every opportunity.
Posted on 8 Jan 2014 14:48:54 GMT
Last edited by the author on 8 Jan 2014 15:35:52 GMT
Mr S. Anderson says:
You've taken the words right out of my mouth!Well said.
Please Mr Moffat,when the series returns later this year,can we just get back to basics?
No incoherent plot strands,story arcs,River Song or episodes beginning with the title"......... of the Doctor".Just plain simple,enjoyable,well directed stories that won't confuse and irritate the casual viewer,to the extent that they reach for their TV remote.
We live in hope,but I suspect we will continue to get more of the same.
In reply to an earlier post on 9 Jan 2014 11:48:22 GMT
M. R. Heath says:
Why should Moffat bow to the "casual" viewer? It's not his obligation to please viewers that don't tune in often enough to grasp what's going on. Doctor Who has always been a serealised programe (The Trial of a Time Lord" covered ALL of Colin Bakers final series as the doctor - 14 episodes). The revived series has an Arc that weaves through all the episodes, but as Bob says, those are a small minority of episodes. The majority are standalone episodes of 1 or 2 parts.
In reply to an earlier post on 9 Jan 2014 12:03:03 GMT
Last edited by the author on 9 Jan 2014 12:06:46 GMT
As arguments go, holding up Trial of a Timelord as an example of how Doctor Who has, in the past, successfully done story-arcs, looks like an act of wilful self-sabotage.
The Trial season was an artistic and ratings DISASTER, due in large part to the way it seemed to deliberately make things confusing for the casual viewer while simultaneously catering to the fan-boys' wish for huge dollops of Who-mythology.
Anyway, the criticism which is under dispute here is not JUST that there's too many inter-related episodes. Even taken individually they are frequently confusing, shouty and wearyingly far-fetched (I never thought I'd accuse a show like Doctor Who of being 'far-fetched' - yes, it's always been far-fetched, but not in a way that puts people off.)
Rating ARE down for Moffat's Who - not on the same level as 1988, but it's a slippery slope he's treading. Virtually all the people I know who are just 'casual viewers' have now given up on it.