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This review is from: Alfred Hitchcock: The Masterpiece Collection - Limited Edition [Blu-ray]  [Region Free] (Blu-ray)Be aware before buying that this Blu-ray set has been delayed in the US and Germany in order to correct mistakes in the film transfers. However, as of writing, the UK set still shows a release date of Oct 1st. If it still shows this release date, this means that Universal have decided NOT to correct those mistakes in the UK. This means that either you will be spending £100 on a faulty release or, at best, you'll have to send some of the discs back for replacement. Faults include - errors in spelling on replaced credits and faulty authoring on MARNIE (wherein the picture is fuzzy until chapter 18, when it reverts suddenly back to normal). This same problem may apply to TORN CURTAIN and there may be issues with the colour on VERTIGO. These are not simply poor transfers, they are errors in the authoring. I've sought clarity from Univeral on these issues but have heard nothing back. Leading authorities on film preservation and presentation are advising consumers NOT to pre-order until these issues are addressed.
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Initial post: 19 Sep 2012 09:50:21 BDT
Thanks for the info. I've read the review and the announcement of Universal delaying the release. From what I can tell, Universal is delaying ALL editions of the set in all territories. I am assuming (and this better be correct) that amazon UK is just behind on updating the delayed released date. Case in point: When Aerosmith's new cd "Music From Another Dimension" was pushed back from August 28th to November 6th, the release date change was almost immediately updated on the US amazon site. On the UK site the release date remained August 28th for about a month after the announcement. It was finally changed to the correct release date just before the disc was to have been released. I am assuming this is an error on Amazon's part and not Universal's. I have pre-ordered the release and fully expect that in a few weeks, the UK site will have the new release date listed.
In reply to an earlier post on 19 Sep 2012 13:20:35 BDT
Looks like this more elaborate set has been delayed, but the standard one is still showing Oct 1st...
In reply to an earlier post on 19 Sep 2012 14:22:47 BDT
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Posted on 24 Sep 2012 16:08:32 BDT
I would really like to know where or how this information about quality comes from.
Is this insider info. or just a rumour?
It could of course just be a marketing decision to delay the release to a more opportune time.
If anybody knows the answer that would be good.
In reply to an earlier post on 24 Sep 2012 18:16:06 BDT
Last edited by the author on 24 Sep 2012 18:18:24 BDT
the only statement coming from Universal so far:
"Universal Studios Home Entertainment is postponing the Blu-ray release of Alfred Hitchcock: The Masterpiece Collection to October 30, 2012 (which we now know has been pushed back an additional week to November 5th/6th - jd) . Certain imperfections with the product have come to light and, as a result, we are delaying the release date to correct these points. Our goal is to always deliver the best possible product to our consumers."
Some are not convinced Universal will actually address the various encoding issues other than the end credit sequence on one film, however their own statement says "imperfections" plural and that they are "delaying the release... to correct these points".
The delay is 6 weeks. Many believe it's naive to think that the encoding issues can be corrected that quickly, but since we're only talking about a handful of discs in the set, I think the 6 week delay is enough time to get it done. Who knows, they might have to push back the release date yet again. Other than that one short statement from Universal, everything else is rumor and conjecture. For me, I'm hoping Universal is doing the right thing here and fixing all known issues before releasing the set.
In reply to an earlier post on 26 Sep 2012 12:55:58 BDT
I read the same posts, and hence delayed my pre-ordering/ordering until the facts be known from the ISSUED products.
One of the film I especially want is FRENZY...and the pre-rodiction discs apparently show a Heavy Judicious use of DNR, as do a few others in this set. Eliminating/reducing grain, as we know, then also REDUCES the sharpeness making them appear "softer" than we might currently enjoy on the DVD issue.. Most studios have by now learnt to AVOID the use od DNR...as the results look like a soft and POOR transfer to the consumer.. and negates th value of an HD copy!!
I believe Universal Uk will be following suit with its other territories, and this set will be delayed until all is corrected.. but I also TRULY believe they cannot coorect ALL in this short time-span... and what they MIGHT do is correct and issue later sets with all corrected.. which could take a lot more time than a late October/Early Nov delayed release...then they will offer all those with the problem discs the opportunity to return/replace once those discs become available.. not for the first time will a studio have issed a DVD or Blu-ray and offered a recall due to a newly-found "issue"..
To "Ahantrobus" baove, I would say the sources are from the USA/Hollywood, from the engineers and workers within Warners, who have seen Pre-production Test Presses, which of course already exist! They filter out what they have seen and know..to top reputable A/V Forums.. under Pen-Names to protect their corporate identiities.. this is not unusual practice.. and I would strongly suggest the information is 100% TRUE...because Universal have NOW in fact delayed the Release of this In The US and Germany.. I suspect the UK too.. likely amazon uk is slow to update the information.. I would HOPE Universal won't be tempted to release then cause us headaches by having to return the affected discs once they become available duly corrected..
WE pay a lot for a BLU-RAY date of issue set...and so we should expect the due dilligence of the studio in giving us the VERY BEST possible transfers they can, withiout erros that were simply not spotted?corrected when the work was being done!! It's not in Universla's Interest to now proceed with issue whilst the web is alight with the known faults! But...sometimes "commercial" decisions cloud their judgment..especially with the Christams season rapidly approaching!
In reply to an earlier post on 1 Oct 2012 20:39:53 BDT
If these blu ray discs come out and are less than perfect then that will be the end of my pre ordering and I suspect many others will act the same. Then purchases will be made with due attention to reviews and this would be detrimental to overall sales. I just hope that this is taken in to account by the studios. They are in business to sell their product and reviews good or bad must influence sales!
In reply to an earlier post on 1 Oct 2012 22:15:07 BDT
I would seriously expect Universal to have "sorted" out these issues IN TIME for the November re-schedule.. because they had a "Head Start" and Thanks to the "whistleblowers"-...they knew before any of US ever did, for sure! So in reality is considerably MORE than a month to "fix" the issues- Nobody like having to do this..but any large company worth its reputation would prefer a "Delay" in release date and fix the problems- than issue them "as is" and then fix after release..with a recall rescue package later on..
I would feel confident enough that they will have addressed the problems, so I would Pre-Order with confidence.. They will have had more than enough time to replace those few affected discs in the set..
In reply to an earlier post on 13 Oct 2012 20:28:35 BDT
G. Sferrazza says:
anyone know why the us is 15 BR disks?
In reply to an earlier post on 13 Oct 2012 23:56:19 BDT
Last edited by the author on 14 Oct 2012 00:01:48 BDT
Hi, Yes I do!! Simple..The US contains one title extra/different to the UK/Euro issues... This is because of DIFFERENT local copyright/licensing agreements in place.. eg a title that Universal can release in the US may not be possible in UK/Europe because another Company has the local relasing rights/distribution over HERE..
YOU NEED TO log into amazon.com (USA)...AND CHECK OUT THE QUOTED titles included- THEN COMPARE TO THE list shown here for the uk/euro ISSUE..AND YOU'LL SEE WHAT IS MISSING...
DO Bear in MIND the US set is considerably MORE expensive than the UK one...many US buyers are intending to purchase HERE on the UK site!! So the odd title differences is more than made up!! and will be possible, I'm sure, at a later stage to buy/find and add... Hope this helps..Sorry, Off Hand I can't quite recall which title(s) were different in the sets- I did the COMPARISION myself some time ago!!
In the WORLD of DVD/Blu-ray media...it seems UNIVERSAL is not always at all "Universal"!!! ;) MRL