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A gem of a book,
This review is from: Teach Us to Sit Still: A Sceptic's Search for Health and Healing (Paperback)This is a gem of a book. As the wife of someone who has spent many years suffering intermittently from prostatitis and chronic pelvic pain, and for whom it has had a particularly devastating impact over the past 6 months, I found it enormously reassuring - as well as enjoyable - to read Tim's story. CPP is not a life-threatening or even serious condition. But it can have a surprisingly corrosive effect, not just on the life of the person suffering from it but on all those close. And it's not always easy for those close bystanders (let alone more distant observers) to understand the pain and misery it causes or be continually patient and sympathetic when their own lives are put on hold as a result.
Tim Parks' symptoms, medical experiences and personal dilemmas have been unnervingly similar to those of my husband. As a woman, it is hard to appreciate quite what the pain must be like and why it is so utterly demoralising. Tim's descriptions have helped me better understand what my husband is going through; and his frankness about the mental anguish of trying to come to terms with a condition that seems astonishingly common yet so poorly understood (and too embarrassing for most people to discuss without sniggering) is hugely refreshing. Then to read his fascinating account of how he managed to come to terms with it all gives hope indeed. It should be required reading for anyone affected by CPP, their wives and partners.
But this is not just a book for those blighted by CPP. As other reviewers have made clear, there is much more to it than just the unpacking of a particular health problem. It is a fascinating exploration of personality, a journey through the limitations of modern medicine, an unravelling of the impact of troubles in life and a lesson in how to come to terms with oneself. All told with humour and intelligent asides into the worlds of language, literature and art. There can be few people who would not enjoy and learn something from it.
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Initial post: 27 Jul 2010 20:47:49 BDT
James Herbert says:
Great review. I had this problem for 3 years and last year I went to California to undergo the programme outlined by Doctor Wise. It worked for me and I am now almost clear of symptoms - the only reason I am not 100% clear is that sometime I lose the discipline of the treatment. Anyway I can't say that it will work for anybody but if it provides your husband with some hope I can say hand on heart it worked well for me. They are very used to people from the UK travelling to the clinic so there is no problem there.
James Herbert - London
In reply to an earlier post on 27 Jul 2010 21:50:08 BDT
Cathy W says:
Thanks James, that's good to know and I'm very glad it worked for you. Right now my husband is pretty depressed and anxious, partly as a result and perhaps partly a precursor to the CPP. So getting him to California might be something of a challenge! But I'll arm him with the "Headache" book and hope for the best. Good luck to you in keeping the ghastly thing at bay. Best wishes, Cathy.
In reply to an earlier post on 29 Jul 2010 12:12:53 BDT
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In reply to an earlier post on 29 Jul 2010 18:09:58 BDT
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I have done David Wise's clinic and it did not help me one bit. Not all pelvic pain presentations are the result of anxiety.
CathyW, your writing style is very similar to David Wise's writing style. What a coincidence.
In reply to an earlier post on 29 Jul 2010 18:42:40 BDT
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James Thorpe says:
I have also been to the Dr Wise clinic. I would not recommend it at all. Stanford University are not involved in the clinic. It is a private enterprise.
The 2011 Wise Anderson study only served to highlight the ineffectiveness of their treatment. After 23 months of daily treatment the pain score (pain on a scale of 1-10) only dropped by an average of 1 point. Also consider the fact that they allowed 42% of their original patient sample to drop out of the study. So the pain score may even have increased after the treatment had they followed up all the patients in the study.
The NIH-Chronic Prostatitis Symptom Index dropped from 26 to 19. Placebo has produced the same response in previous studies. A score of 19 is still classified as severe symptoms.
Relaxation/meditation is available on the NHS for chronic pain. If you want to pursue trigger point treatment it is availble privately. You do not need to fly to California to receive this type of treatment.
Posted on 3 Aug 2010 13:26:17 BDT
G. Holcombe says:
Ive suffered this for 3 years and counting so can appreciate what your partner is going through. One of the biggest problems particularly in the UK is the lack of understanding and support. Im in the process of setting up a forum for people in the UK to discuss their problems and get help and support, its early days so content is limited but more is being added each day. This isnt a sales pitch or any scam, but if your partner would like to take a look at what ive done so far the web address is : cppsuk.proboards.com
Wishing your partner all the best
In reply to an earlier post on 6 Oct 2010 08:15:26 BDT
Last edited by the author on 27 Mar 2011 23:47:14 BDT
James Thorpe says:
I would urge patients to look at the reviews of David Wise's book Paradoxical relaxation on the American amazon. Notice a review by 'Richard C Miller' and compare it to this one.
In reply to an earlier post on 5 Jun 2012 11:23:40 BDT
Last edited by the author on 5 Jun 2012 11:24:30 BDT
Oh Mr Jelly says:
Is this the review you are referring to (it's by 'Richard Miller' not 'Richard C Miller'? And presumably implying that it is written by the same person? They both refer to 'a gem of a book' and 'chronic pelvic pain'. Is that all - or am I missing something? Miller's review looks like a sales pitch. IMO Cathy W's doesn't.
Miller review: "David Wise's Paradoxical Relaxation is a gem of a book and a `must read' that belongs in the hands and library of medical professionals and laypersons alike. David expertly interweaves time-tested ancient principles with modern medicine and solid clinical research as he presents the Wise-Anderson Protocol that he co-pioneered at Stanford University, which is acclaimed as the most successful therapy for relieving chronic pelvic pain, anxiety-related disorders, and the myriad of symptoms that accompany these conditions. Integrating the disciplines of urology, psychology, and physical therapy, David's book provides an effective approach that empowers and restores control to the patient by providing them with simple yet highly effective exercises that relieve chronic pain and anxiety-related disorders through the release of chronic contraction and tension in the pelvic floor and nervous system. This is now on the recommended reading list for all my students, and a book I enjoying placing in the hands of my patients."
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