Customer Review

7 of 26 people found the following review helpful
1.0 out of 5 stars Hubris in Excelsis !, 23 May 2011
By 
Verified Purchase(What is this?)
This review is from: The Good Book: A Secular Bible (Hardcover)
Well there is perhaps some wisdom in this book. A page in the book states that the ideas in the book are taken from many philosophers from many cultures and world religions, listing them. However, what I find objectionable about this book there are no annotated references to particular philosophers - one cannot tell where AC Grayling is writing and where he has pinched a bit from Ancient Philosophers - which makes me wonder. For this reason: ONE STAR ONLY. If this was a scientific paper (as its written in this bland mechanistic-scientific-materialistic-deterministic tone) it would have references to other scientific papers !

I was aware this was a book written by a Humanist style-philosopher and it is true there would be little to offend any atheist, scientist or secular un-philosophizing or un-spiritual jo bloggs on the street - it does contain some metaphysical food for thought. However, Grayling seems to completely brush over and ignore some of the greatest minds in history - for example in one paragraph he states 'mythology is pure fantasy' or something along those lines - being totally ignorant of the works of Carl Jung for example. Sure its a fine book if you are into Dawkins or scientifico-analyst style view on life, but if you hold spiritual beliefs of any sort what-so-ever you will find it bland and uninspiring. I'd say that this book deeply lacks wisdom and deeply lacks any awareness or understanding of any personal inner spiritual experience other than saying 'oo look those flowers are nice'... At times it tries to draw upon Greek and Mesopotamian myth or legend - and even those comes across bland, dry, uninspiring and misinformed (from two very 'spiritual cultures' - gee even Socrates believed in the Gods...so perhaps thats the need not to directly reference him !

One commentator noted 'A Bible without a God in it is a bit like non-alcoholic beer' - rather pointless I'd say.

I actually think genuine people of faith, new agers and spiritual people will find this book arrogant and laughable. If a secular society were to accept a book such as this (which is no doubt the authors goal), I doubt very much the solace or comfort that it could provide to those seeking something more than the daily drudge. And no I do not believe all experience is just due to chemical states in the brain...

But if you want something to reinforce your materialist views or Humanist views with a bit of niceness thrown it - its for you. But I would in no way call it 'Secular' it simply does not contain enough spiritual diversity to be so.
Help other customers find the most helpful reviews 
Was this review helpful to you? Yes No

[Add comment]
Post a comment
To insert a product link use the format: [[ASIN:ASIN product-title]] (What's this?)
Amazon will display this name with all your submissions, including reviews and discussion posts. (Learn more)
Name:
Badge:
This badge will be assigned to you and will appear along with your name.
There was an error. Please try again.
Please see the full guidelines ">here.

Official Comment

As a representative of this product you can post one Official Comment on this review. It will appear immediately below the review wherever it is displayed.   Learn more
The following name and badge will be shown with this comment:
 (edit name)
After clicking on the Post button you will be asked to create your public name, which will be shown with all your contributions.

Is this your product?

If you are the author, artist, manufacturer or an official representative of this product, you can post an Official Comment on this review. It will appear immediately below the review wherever it is displayed.  Learn more
Otherwise, you can still post a regular comment on this review.

Is this your product?

If you are the author, artist, manufacturer or an official representative of this product, you can post an Official Comment on this review. It will appear immediately below the review wherever it is displayed.   Learn more
 
System timed out

We were unable to verify whether you represent the product. Please try again later, or retry now. Otherwise you can post a regular comment.

Since you previously posted an Official Comment, this comment will appear in the comment section below. You also have the option to edit your Official Comment.   Learn more
The maximum number of Official Comments have been posted. This comment will appear in the comment section below.   Learn more
Prompts for sign-in
 

Comments

Tracked by 1 customer

Sort: Oldest first | Newest first
Showing 1-3 of 3 posts in this discussion
Initial post: 14 Jun 2011 20:42:38 BDT
Steve M says:
What on earth do you think secular means? The quickest of searches comes up with this definition, "Denoting attitudes, activities, or other things that have no religious or spiritual basis:" so to complain that a secular book is not spiritual enough is daft.
You also say a Bible without God is pointless, which speaks volumes. Morality is not the preserve of the religious and there are plenty of people who live honest, decent, meaningful lives without God. That does not mean we are just left with the materialist world you contemplate. Secularists know there are many aspects to the world which make a reasoned, empathetic and social lifestance worthwhile.
This book does not need have the 'spiritual diversity' you speak of. It's secular. Look it up!

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jul 2011 10:23:17 BDT
Couldn't agree more, have you actually read the description of this book? Or even bought it? - "I actually think genuine people of faith, new agers and spiritual people will find this book arrogant and laughable" - funnily enough, I find those people the most arrogant and laughable on the planet.

Posted on 13 Aug 2011 19:04:58 BDT
J. K. Smith says:
"One commentator noted 'A Bible without a God in it is a bit like non-alcoholic beer' - rather pointless I'd say."

True - only if you believe that the reason for drinking beer is to get pissed.
‹ Previous 1 Next ›

Review Details

Item

3.2 out of 5 stars (48 customer reviews)
5 star:
 (22)
4 star:
 (1)
3 star:
 (6)
2 star:
 (4)
1 star:
 (15)
 
 
 
25.00 20.00
Add to basket Add to wishlist
Reviewer


Top Reviewer Ranking: 10,549