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Very good performance for the price,
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This review is from: Panasonic DMP-BDT130 Smart Network 3D Blu-ray Disc Player - Black (Electronics)
I already owned an earlier Panasonic Blu-ray player (DMP-BD 75) but wanted to get a second one for another TV and this looked good value.
Positive points - very easy to setup (including the network setup which was far more difficult on the BD 75), picture quality and sound are great and the added features of Youtube, Netflix, BBC iPlayer are good to have. Scale-up of standard DVDs seems to give good images.
Negative points - the box is a little too wide and doesn't match up with standard box widths, I've seen a couple of sponsor ads which I think are unnecessary, the remote control of my DMP-BD 75 is programmable to allow you to control a few features (on/off, volume and source selection) of non-Panasonic TVs which is nice but this one, although it has the same buttons, doesn't have that feature so you end up with 2 remotes when you watch a DVD.
The player is 3D but that doesn't interest me - is it only me and Japan who thinks 3D is a gimmick? Japan appeared to drop 3D years ago! Every time I've tried to watch it looks very false and I end up feeling sick!
If you want to play DVDs from other regions you will need you get a device to change the setting to multi-region and you can find these on the internet for not much money.
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Initial post: 12 Aug 2013 10:23:35 BDT
You, me and Japan!
In reply to an earlier post on 23 Aug 2013 13:11:38 BDT
NO!!! ME, You Patricia, Steve from Herts AND JAPAN!!!
I kept telling my former clients in the A/V Industry that the gimmick of 3D will soon pass- always aTRICK Hollywood and now the A/V Industry pull out in times of difficulty- ie. the mid 50s loss of revenue in cinemas due to the arrival of television! So OUT came the 3D!
Now later on during the present/recent reccesion- worldwide hardware manufacturers of LCD/PLasma screen were not quite ready to bring us the REAL Next MAJOR improvement that Broadcasters and the industry as a whole are behind- the introduction of 4k hardware for the consumer market- as the markets over the past 3-4 years would not bear the high initial costs at retail...so 3D was a makeshift "product" to FILL IN TIME until the 4k Revolution could get undeway!
This Year's 2013 CES LAS VEGAS saw 3D take a BACK-BURNER-as all the majors were showcasing 4k hardware.. as we know- REAL HD will give you an amazing definition that will be far more relevant in perceiving a REAL 3D-like image..without the distracting, gimmick of balls in your lap, and mud in your eye...which DO make over 60% of 3D viewers in cinemas and on home panels feel sick/disorientated, resulting in acute headaches (nausea!)..
So we are 3 here and Japan...who do not suffer Gimmicks foir Gimmick's Sake (not sake, the drink!)... so WE ARE NOT ALONE!!! Michael, Camden; London UK
Posted on 23 Aug 2013 13:16:54 BDT
Thanks for a solid good factual review- I have left a reply to Patricia...as you are NOT alone in having NO TIME for 3D!
I will have one of these modded in Essex for ABC Blu-ray playback and 1-6 regions DVD... This IS a good enough player for me.
Posted on 10 Jan 2014 12:07:34 GMT
Hi people...Hmm seems like you may have had a cheap and nasty experience!!!!.Could you tell me for in what format you watched the 3D....(by the way I only came across this review by accident while looking for another player...and by the way your review is the reason for my purchase of this item,so thanks.)I purchased an Optoma 131x projector which pushes out a 1080p 3D picture that is truly stunning!!...All,or most of the movie studio's are pushing out 3D epics now!...The Croods,Gravity,Man of steel,etc,and all show great depth,and clarity "You do have to watch out for movies that have been remastered.Which mostly are money making low standard rubbish"....I live in Cheshire and if you want proof of what I state above, you're more than welcome to have a look for yourself! :-) http://www.optoma.co.uk/projectordetailsh
In reply to an earlier post on 12 Jan 2014 09:50:02 GMT
And so the 3 D debate continues---- I have a super HD 55 inch Sony flagship model TV with a top of the range Panasonic 3 D Cinema player, it is brilliant you don,t know what you are missing, ever been inside the Grand Canyon ? buy this feature and find out! and you don,t get your feet wet.
In reply to an earlier post on 12 Jan 2014 11:26:02 GMT
Last edited by the author on 12 Jan 2014 11:27:28 GMT
No, I have yet to go to the Grand Canyon! But have you ever seen the Grand Canyon in 4k.. or any broadacast content in 8k? Thankfully and luckily, I have! Now if that doesn't blow you out of the water EVEN on a 55"-65" screen and beyond..(and NHK the national TV broadcaster in Japan have already received their TEST panels in that size from 2 Japanese manufacturers , as they soon begin actual broadcast trilals over the air in 8k, hoping to begin their national service in good time for their 2020 Olympics)...then you ain;t seen nothin' yet!!!!
4k alone at your tv size of 55" looks stunning- and AS REAL as it is going to get for the next 6 years until they decide to roll out 8k in other countries too (if that ever happens!! ).. and 4k will be here sooner than you think- the industry NEEDS this to JUMP start their last few years in recession/decline.. so that we all have to start paying the higher amounts all over again.. for the new technology- although unlike the FIRST flat panels that cost over £10,000 for a 42" plasma, the Opening batch of 55-65" screens from Sony, LG, Samsung and Panasonic are largely on sale at incredibly low price points for a NEW technology- they are trying to PUSH START the road to higher profits by doing so.. and getting normal households to accept larger screens that are so thin, they now almost blend in and "suit" better the modern home without looking like a behemoth or eyesore! The Higher Resolution also allows for more comfoprtable closer sitting to the screens than standard HD (2k) allows.. Just a few years ago, 40-50 screen sizes were sold in low numbers- today they are becoming the norm (thanks to HD) ..
So, whilst I accpept you are VERY Happy with 3D, and I can share your enthusiasm for it, although my preference is for 2D viewing- just go and SEE what real 4k screens look like with true 4k content- then perhaps you may understand why the Industry is more excited by 4k now than 3D, which has already begun its demise- Worldwide Broadcasters are dropping 3D HD channels- they began doing so in Japan some while ago, our very own BBC is shelving its own, and they are concentrating on the next Higher Definition Revolution- Sky of course are right behind this (well, they would! More fees for early adopters!).. and of course, the BBC are extremely interested right now- the very same BBC that worked with NHK engineers in Japan to develop 8k format, which they co-worked on for a good many years now- at least before 2006, possibly a couple of years even earlier!! The detail you will see will make the 3D you are seeing now seem like a step-back to 405 line television, or MONO sound..or black and white TV!!
Naturally, you being a 3D "fan"... those higher resolutions WILL benefit you - the current 3D format/system is (IMO) a very basic and low defintion one (when broadcast currently).. but with 4k/8k it will be amazing especially at 50/50p (progressive) frame rates per second- the 8k format will allow something like 100+ frame rate broadcasts- so native 3D in those formats will REALLLLY make your eyes POP out!!! But 2D REALLY DOES look lifelike and 3 dimensional and extremely 3D to my eyes- just like opening a window and looking outside..depth, perceived dimesnsionality as real as it gets... try and see a proper demo soon from a PRO A/V dealer showing true 4k content on a properly set-up panel or a projector.. but do not be fooled into thinking that 55"-65" won;t bring any REAL improvement- it MOST DEFINITELY WILL...STRIKINGLY SO !!! I personally will wait a couple mpre years at least before I upgrade my Professional Panasonic 65" plasma- sadly none of the NEW tech 4k/8k sets will be made using plasma tech, as Panasonic has now pulled out of the market ending production in a few months time- and I believe that LCD/LED sets (and OLED) still need some improvemt in their black depth/colour and native contrast/brighteness ratios/levels (real, not the quoted artifical ones!).. as of yet, NO panel can CLAIM to have bettered the old trusty TUBE sets for that.. even if they are slowly improving year on year.. I'll wait until Blu-ray content becomes available (and they iron out all the panel and blu-ray tech issues first..allow 2-3 years for that..and the costs will have reduced and quality/relaiblilty improved by then (an old saying in the electronics industry- it takes 5 years for a NEW format to settle down and have the bugs ironed out!! This of course in the 2000s is now much reduced, as tech marches along rather more rapidly than it did in the 20th Centrury!).. DO Report back here when you have seen "proper" 4k and tell us what you THINK!
In reply to an earlier post on 12 Jan 2014 11:51:54 GMT
My intention on visiting John Lewis in Cheadle last October was to buy the Samsung OLED curved screen but it would not fit the alcove that I have my TV in due to it,s large metal frame in which it is suspended, my next bet was the Sony 4K but one of the assistants said to me that there where no broadcasts and only upscalled Blu-Ray media available for it, hence my buy of Sony,s flagship model for 2013. I change my set about every 12 months or so, I am watching the market with interest for the next significant boost forward in quality. Also a disgruntled customer on the JL website for the Sony hyper HD said he thought that at distances over 6 Ft he could not see any improvement but the one in the shop looked great on the prepared media available. Thank you for your comments.
In reply to an earlier post on 12 Jan 2014 14:43:01 GMT
Broadcasts in Europe may begin within the year, South Korea already does have limted ones- but it will be some time before we do- and certainly anything on a FREE public service from the BBC will be atleast 2+ years (even if they begin with a 4k Test Channel) - so you are quite right- BUT..what your John Lweis salesman SHOULS have told you is that HD from Sky Sat/other platforms and Freeview (as well as Blu-ray HD) will ALL look SUPERB when the set upscales them- it will resolve more detail, and appear crisper, whilst not actually being in 4k. As of today;s date, the Blu-ray Forum (the backers of Blu-ray) have YET to announce any 4k news regarding discs carrying 4k signals. News WAS expected by the Xmas just gone, or BY the end of the CES Las Vegas Show- we already know the tech for making multiple layered discs that would be needed to hold a 4k film on disc was made available last summer when a Swiss firm announced that 100Gb discs could now proceeed to manufacture- a hint clearly at the progress towards that end.. Sony themselves at the Opening day of the CES at their Press Event there intimated they are VERY pleased with their 4k streaming service which has been up and running since last summer- and that Netflix amongst others are making available 4k content which can connect directly to your sert by WiFi.. I would guess that about 50% of 4k content seekers would prefer hard-disc versions of films (as they did with DVD and so on) but their is a likely majority who will chose the streaming services, as this becomes easier and more relaible- the content available even now is growing steadily, as many films and now broadcasts in the US are filmed in 4k and many film studios have been mastering their catalogues in either 8k or 4k, so the transition is rather simplified now. There is the matter of Blu-ray 4k "codecs" to settle (hence Blu-ray;s lack of any 4k news yet).. there is perhaps still a little more work to be done there (codecs/compression and making the backward-compatible hardware).. I won;t upgrade until at least another year or two (this Pro plasma screen was the FIRST I had in 8 years that I haven't chosen to replace at 6-12 months!!!!)..
Some people DO say they cannot see a benefit, say, at 6 feet distance- but it is rather MORE than sharp detail at work- we will perceive a more fluid picture/better motion, and the picture looks far more solid with improved colour and less artefacts of any kind- that;s WHY the Japaense are going straight to 8K.. I know many amazon reviewers who claim they see NO benefit even with (now) standard HD (2k) on sets below 50/60".. but that the results show that we CAN see a real difference ( a BIG one in my opinion) on sets going down to 32 inch.. and whereas most people a decade ago had 28/32 inch screens as their main set, the sizes since THIN panels were introduced have pushed up the sizes WE the public are actually buying - this was predicted by the manufacturing indistry back in 2006, and hence 40/42" sets became the fastes selling size for "FULL HD" screens whilst the prices have dropped dramatically- many have 50 and quite a few 65".. as they become toally flat, people will accept MUCH LARGER sizes around 70-80 inch as being PERFECTLY POSSIBL;E if the price is right! That's where they wish to lead us- projection as a method STILL has one main problem- its inability to watch in daylight or semi-darkened rooms- whereas a panel can be used all day and night without compromise nor leaving eyes tired.. most low cost projectors require total pitch black to look their best, especially at the mid to lower end market.. I would HINT at OLED giving the best picture /colour/contrast, and that the sets from Samsung, Sony and Panasonic will become sleeker and better (OLED still has a little more catch up to do- but is the "better" technology for the next gen screens!!... so I would wait a year or TWO just as I will do myself- by then we will have ironed out all the compatability issues, and be seeing broadcasts begining to happen, and Blu-ray discs reach a 2nd Generation status with bugs all sorted.. and the prices (in real terms) dropped even more..
By the way, I went to John Lewis about 5 years ago to see their Panasonic 102" Full HD (2k) plsama display (around £40-50,000 INCLUDING THE 6 MAN TEAM AND BOX WHICH CONTAINED A MINI CRANE!)- The picture did NOT impress me with std. HD content, unless looking from over 16 feet away or more...becauise at THAT size, the pixles are a bit like chocolate Smarties sized! (I exagerate slightly for the purposes opf illustration!)- But that is precise the size of set where 4k and absolutely 8k will make a HUGE difference.. and that then all filters down to our more realsitic/cost effective 50-75 inch screens..those 75/80" sizes will begin dropping from their £20,000+ prices as more are manufactured.. 4k will be the factor that pushes them along!
See you back here in a year or two- when we can compare notes on the progress of quality (actual real world improvements)..
In reply to an earlier post on 12 Jan 2014 14:58:05 GMT
Thank you for the update. John Bentley
In reply to an earlier post on 25 Jan 2014 19:10:01 GMT
M. A. Bennett says:
What has a discussion of 4k technology got to do with this particular (budget priced) Blu-ray player?
You are talking about very expensive new technology, which WILL remain in the camp of only the (fairly well heeled) enthusiast for a long time yet.
So many people (of all ages) still appear to be 'happy with upscaled DVD', and cannot even see what they are missing from 1080p Blu-ray...
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