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This review is from: Ironclad [Blu-ray][Region Free] (Blu-ray)
Ironclad is based on the historical siege of Rochester castle by King John. The film is period authentic, very violent, totally gripping, spoiled only by an over the top performance by Paul Giametti as King John. But you can feel and smell the period, and if you have a strong stomach, for these were bloody times indeed, you will enjoy this. It deserved a better life in cinemas than the short one it got.
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Initial post: 24 May 2011 22:35:10 BDT
Trust me, it is NOT period authentic
In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jun 2011 16:36:37 BDT
I love period films but very few are ever truly authentic, some are better than others though, one og my favourite passtimes is spotting things like trainers on the extras etc! So what specifcally got your goat regarding the period authenticity?
In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jun 2011 18:02:00 BDT
There are an awful lot, but the army of 'pagan danes' from a country that had been totally christian for the last couple of centuries was a particular surprise
In reply to an earlier post on 5 Jul 2011 15:35:07 BDT
Hmm, I'm poised between getting this and not. "Pagan Danes" in King John's time is a bit of a howler, but do we see them practising paganism, or referring to their pagan faith, or is it just their enemies disparagingly referring to them as pagans?
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D. Fletcher says:
In reply to an earlier post on 9 Jul 2011 07:53:41 BDT
Well, speaking as a former archaeologist, with a particular interest in the 12th and 13th century, I do know that John did hire mercenaries for the siege, none from Denmark and that Denmark had been fully christian for over 200 years at this point in time
In reply to an earlier post on 10 Jul 2011 02:25:56 BDT
D. Fletcher says:
Denmark HAD NOT been FULLY christian for over 200 years at this point of time
The Christianization of Scandinavia took place between the 8th and the 12th century. The realms of Scandinavia proper, Denmark, Norway and Sweden, established their own Archdioceses, responsible directly to the Pope, in 1104, 1154 and 1164, respectively. The conversion to Christianity of the Scandinavian people would require more time, since it took additional efforts to establish a network of churches. The Samis remained unconverted until the 18th century.
In fact, although the Scandinavians became nominally Christian, it took considerably longer for actual Christian beliefs to establish themselves among the people. The old indigenous traditions that had provided security and structure since time immemorial were challenged by ideas that were unfamiliar, such as original sin, the Incarnation, and the Trinity Archaeological excavations of burial sites on the island of Lovön near modern-day Stockholm have shown that the actual Christianization of the people was very slow and took at least 150-200 years, and this was a very central location in the Swedish kingdom. 13th century runic inscriptions from the bustling merchant town of Bergen in Norway show little Christian influence, and one of them appeals to a Valkyrie. At this time, enough knowledge of Norse mythology remained to be preserved in sources such as the Eddas in Iceland
In reply to an earlier post on 10 Jul 2011 11:41:15 BDT
B. Morris says:
does it matter if they were christians or not. did you like the film,? were you entertained,? is what matters. religeon has been in this country for years, but there"s not many christians about these days.i suspect there were a few non christians in johns time and they were the ones he employed. hows that for a theory.!!!!