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This review is from: Sony BDPS350 Blu-ray Disc Player 1080p Full HD (Electronics)Firstly, the remote is a joke. Apparently, the makers assumed we are only interested in fast forwarding quickly. With my old Pioneer remote you have total control of the image. The image control of the Sony remote is abysmal and it looks and feels cheap too.
Apparently, Blu-Ray disks play at 24 frames and this makes for a stutter or judder when objects move on screen which I find rather sickening, like NTSC discs played on my old Sony Analogue. With such a a sharp image, it is particularly problematic. Why mess around with things? My Panasonic plasma is 720 and the full definition sets available with 24 "Real Cinema" enable are supposed to improve smoothness but I was hard pressed to notice when in stores the other day. Aside from this annoyance, the picture quality is razor sharp considering the screen is not full HD.
However, I must ring the praises of this player's upscaler which is superb. I thought I had put in the wrong disk at first. In this respect, The Sony 350 walks over my previous Panasonic and Pioneer so-called upscalers.
Overall, a mixed reaction to my first Blu-Ray player.
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Initial post: 24 Oct 2008 11:04:54 BDT
I think it's unfair to mark down the player for the 24Hz nature of Blu-Ray Disc. If telecline judder bothers you then the only option is to upgrade to a television that supports the format, which nearly all you would buy now do. Some can even remove the judder from NTSC DVDs!
Posted on 25 Oct 2008 11:32:10 BDT
N. Jones says:
As the previous person said, your TV doesn't support the 24fps format. Play at 50fps to help remove the judder on that TV.
In reply to an earlier post on 25 Oct 2008 12:45:45 BDT
yep, that should do the trick, theres a setting in the settings menu where you can turn off 24fps, this should help
Posted on 8 Dec 2008 21:41:55 GMT
T. Moore says:
The 24fps issue is going to catch a lot of people out who are used to PAL TV. For decades we've had all our movies sped up by 4% to make them fit 50Hz TV in the UK, and the method used actually makes for a smooth picture.
With HD formats showing films as intended, we now get 24fps. However to convert from 24fps, typically these players do the US method and convert from 24fps to 60Hz. The way to do this conversion is by a "pulldown" method involving 3 frames then 2, which results in judder. 50Hz is not so common a format for HD players, especially 1080p (1080 "i" at 50Hz is at least used in UK HDTV broadcast).
Anyway, the solution is to use a true 1080p 24fps TV, then you get it as in the cinema. Problem is, they are the premium TVs and fairly recent. Many will have 1080p 60Hz TVs, or even 720p 60Hz. Thus for most movies the pulldown method will be applied... and therefore judder.
On the plus side, you're hearing the audio at the correct speed outside of the cinema, for the first time!
In reply to an earlier post on 9 Dec 2008 11:36:05 GMT
Mr. J. Pickles says:
Does turning this '24fps' setting to 'off' eliminate the judder? I ask, as my set is HD ready (1080i max) and the question of judder is putting me off purchase at the moment.
In reply to an earlier post on 16 Dec 2008 13:00:56 GMT
from what i can see from this blu ray player (yes i do own one) 24fps only kicks in if you set it to 1080p, when i tried setting it to 720p the 24fps switched off.. best advise is pop into a sony centre and ask, see if they can give you a sneaky look at a BD movie running on a none 24fps tv with the setting off.. in theory tho switching it off "should" eliminate judder
In reply to an earlier post on 26 Dec 2008 11:34:20 GMT
To be honest, you might not even notice this "judder". I like many used (And still do) import NTSC discs from America and Asia being fans of obscure cinema, and of bargains - many people don't notice the pulldown issue - and there is often a similar issue quite normally on film in panning shots anyway - film can't keep up with motion. Heck - I've even seen judder on Eastenders on tv - it's just the bad way it's filmed.
I've preferred NTSC in the past for important movies, as I can hear the PAL speedup as I'm into music (But many can't or don't care - that's fair enough). Blu ray is great because the soundtrack is now at the correct speed. You might be surprised to hear the voices of many actors only seen on tv, just how deep they really are. That "chipmonk affect" is gone, but as I say, some can hear it, some can't - it's fair enough.
In reply to an earlier post on 8 Feb 2009 12:29:39 GMT
M. O. Malley says:
try to know your facts about tek specs before posting and slagging off a very good product..
Posted on 12 Apr 2009 18:17:57 BDT
Square eyes says:
Gary, is your panasonic a newish set?. if it is the TH37px80 it does accept a 1080p signal at 24frames. not sure about the older models though, what is your set?
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