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27 of 30 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars A well justified and timely challenge to extreme materialism
Peter Hichens recently concluded a review of A.C. Grayling's recent book The God Argument: The Case Against Religion and for Humanismwith an interesting question. He said that the interesting question about God was not so much whether he exists or not, but why both sides of the argument want their answer to be right. Are protagonists on both sides of the debate more...
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7 of 9 people found the following review helpful
2.0 out of 5 stars Thin philosophical gruel
Nagel addresses an important subject and he deserves some credit for that. He states the basic problem, but he doesn't get much beyond that (as he himself acknowledges). Thus, though the book is short, it could have been even shorter.

There is indeed an intellectual void in the heart of modern science. Its most visible manifestations are the failures to...
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27 of 30 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars A well justified and timely challenge to extreme materialism, 13 April 2013
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Dr. Nicholas P. G. Davies (Halifax, UK) - See all my reviews
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Peter Hichens recently concluded a review of A.C. Grayling's recent book The God Argument: The Case Against Religion and for Humanismwith an interesting question. He said that the interesting question about God was not so much whether he exists or not, but why both sides of the argument want their answer to be right. Are protagonists on both sides of the debate more worried about being right, or being wrong?

This book is interesting because it comes from an Atheist philosopher, who is challenging some of the most sacred and cherished beliefs of atheism. Specifically he challenges whether the reduction of all life and knowledge to smaller and smaller parts provides an adequate explanation of the world as it is, or as it is experienced in our consciousness. His conclusion is that it is not an adequate or complete explanation of how things are. He does not think this is just because of gaps in current knowledge that will eventually be filled. He thinks the idea of reducing everything to physics and chemistry is neither sensible nor justifiable, or even a rational hope.

Nagel is really pointing out a flaw in the paradigm of materialism. I think he achieves what he is trying to show, and in this he is echoing the work of many others who have challenged the attempt to reduce all life and experience to physics and chemistry.

In saying this Nagel is going against the current atheistic materialist consensus advocated strongly by many of the disciples of Dawkins. They will dislike this book and think it is wrong -as they deny the existence of anything that is not material as nonsense, no existence and utterly immaterial. They say they will alter their minds if "new evidence emerges to support extra-ordinary claims"; but they have such tight rules of evidence that there's no type of evidence they could admit as credible.

Nagel has written a well argued critique of materialism and reductionism and it is well worth reading. It joins a growing list of significant books such as Aping Mankind: Neuromania, Darwinitis and the Misrepresentation of Humanity and Philosophical Foundations of Neurosciencethat challenge the idea that we are nothing but physical and chemical reactions. I think he achieves the demonstration of the incompleteness of materialism well. I am less sure his suggested alternatives are fully successful.
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2 of 2 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Materialism's emperor's new clothes shown for what they are, 2 Jun 2014
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After several decades in which the orthodoxy of philosophical materialism has gone almost completely unchallenged in Western thought the paucity of its arguments (and evidence) are finally becoming clear.

Incidentally this does not return us to "God" but suggests a broader perspective in which consciousness and matter are both part of the natural world.
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26 of 31 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars EXCITING ICONOCLASM, 27 Dec 2012
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Yehezkel Dror (Jerusalem Israel) - See all my reviews
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The author casts doubts on the reigning materialist Neo-Darwinian conception of nature and on psychophysical reductionism, especially on human consciousness, reason and values. He poses the unusual but crucial question "how to understand nature as a system capable of generating mind" instead of the usual efforts to understand mind as a product of nature (p. 72). Rejecting the intelligent design hypothesis, the author tentatively suggests a secular teleological view of the cosmos in the direction of emergence of life, and later human consciousness and reason.
This is exciting iconoclasm of widely accepted views on which modern sciences are based. Thus, the arguments refute the hopes of cognitive sciences to explain consciousness as a reflection of material processes of the brain. As admitted by the author, the presented alternative hypotheses are speculations, but they stimulate fresh rethinking of what is all too easily widely accepted.
I have problems with some arguments, such as reliance on "common sense" (e.g., pp. 5, 7), on what is "plainly undeniable" (p, 29), and the "evident truths of ethics" (p. 31); neglect of the importance of religions as grounding of values; regarding most of "reasoning" as conscious, with downgrading of tacit and depth processes; rejecting very low probability possibilities as "too accidental to count as a genuine explanation (p.94); and complete neglect of the possibility that the proposed teleology of "the universe gradually waking up" (p.117) may include a tendency built into humanity to create a super-human species while terminating its own existence.
Only at the end does the author mentions that "It is perfectly possible that the truth is beyond our reach, in virtue of our intrinsic cognitive limitations" (p.128). Indeed, I think that it is very likely that only a meta-mind may be able to understand the human mind and its evolution. This fits the opinion of the author in other writings that humans cannot achieve a "view from nowhere." Such fundamental problematic should have been discussed at length at the beginning of the book.
These and other problems in no way diminish the importance of this book, which is recommended to all who want to consider unconventional perspectives of the place of humanity in the cosmos, while taking a critical look on purely physical-causal views of the universe.

Professor Yehezkel Dror
The Hebrew University of Jerusalem
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5 of 6 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Exploring the implications of rejecting psycho-physical reductionism, 22 Jan 2013
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This is a return to form for Nagel. Critical analysis of the flaws of philosophically trendy positions is where he has always been strongest.In many ways this book can be viewed as a sequel to his famous 'What is it like to be a bat?' essay in Mortal Questions as it explores the implications of accepting his rejection of a purely materialist/physicalist theory of mind for our scientific understanding of the world and moral philosophy.
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12 of 15 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Intriguing and very readable critique of materialism, 3 April 2013
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Regardless of whether or not you have a strong view on the central question addressed in this book - namely, the adequacy or otherwise of reductive materialism as an explanation for mental phenomena - there is no doubt that it is a compelling read. Anyone interested in this topic, or indeed the relationship between science and philosophy more generally, will find 'Mind and Cosmos' very rewarding. As always, Nagel's style is highly accessible and presents few obstacles to the non-specialist reader.

That said, I was surprised by some aspects of Nagel's analysis. The early chapters lead one to expect that he is going to present a withering critique of materialism. However, if this was his intention, the book does not really deliver the goods. In fact, rather unusually for those who choose to attack materialism head-on, he devotes surprisingly little space to setting out a critique of physical reductionism. Instead, his approach seems to be to take the inadequacy of the materialist world view as a given, almost as though it were an unspoken assumption he can safely expect his readers to share. To state, as he does, that materialism has a 'negligible likelihood' of being true sounds eloquent, but is not, in itself, a persuasive rebuttal. This somewhat undermines Nagel's attempt, in the second half of the book, to sketch out the outlines of a possible 'naturalistic' alternative to both dualism and physical materialism. For, unless it is clear that materialism is false in at least some respects, the need for an alternative is not self-evident.

Moreover, Nagel's claim that any such naturalistic alternative would require a radical breakthrough in our conceptual understanding of the relationship between mind and the physical world also seems incorrect. There has always been an alternative to materialism and idealism - it is called monism, and it is expressed in classic form in the writings of Baruch Spinoza. But Spinoza was unequivocal in rejecting teleology, and this seems more plausible to me than Nagel's attempt to locate a form of natural teleology in a Godless universe that allegedly has no goals or objective moral values. To say of 'God or Nature' that it is entirely self-contained, and the most powerful and valuable thing that can possibly exist, is not the same thing as saying that it has goals or purposes. After all, if the cosmos has an unconstrained power to give rise to everything that could possibly exist, it is unclear why it would need to set itself external, time-dependent goals; it will deliver infinite diversity timelessly. So it is perfectly consistent to maintain, on the one hand, that the universe must have the potential to give rise to human consciousness, while at the same time denying that this is a goal Nature sets for itself. I would have found the second half of 'Mind and Cosmos' more interesting if Nagel had acknowledged this possibility and explored its implications more fully, since it clearly has a crucial bearing on the question of whether teleology is required to explain the phenomenon of mind, consciousness, and other manifestations of organised complexity.

Still, the fact that Nagel is raising these issues, and stimulating the range of responses found in these and other reviews, itself justifies the price of the book.
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7 of 9 people found the following review helpful
2.0 out of 5 stars Thin philosophical gruel, 3 Jan 2014
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Nagel addresses an important subject and he deserves some credit for that. He states the basic problem, but he doesn't get much beyond that (as he himself acknowledges). Thus, though the book is short, it could have been even shorter.

There is indeed an intellectual void in the heart of modern science. Its most visible manifestations are the failures to explain the origin of the universe, of life, and of mind. Alas, it cannot be said that Nagel explains this very well. He doesn't seem to have a very good grasp of fundamental physics or biology, which is too bad, because the basic substantive problems are very real, very deep and very interesting. When it comes to the inadequacies of materialism in the domains of consciousness/reason/value, he provides more explanations, but he is not as convincing as he would like to be. His dismissal of the conventional view that "mental states are identical to physical events in the central nervous system" is inadequate, and he goes much too far in claiming that "value" can somehow be a fundamental attribute of the world, when common sense (which he invokes in other contexts) clearly indicates that values are contingent on social and psychological factors.

Nagel writes elegantly, and he is careful not to insult or antagonise those who espouse the conventional scientific/materialistic world view. That's good, and understandable given how little he has to offer in the way of an alternative.

Personally, I found this book to be disappointing. I am a particle physicist and have been struggling for some time with the issues that Nagel addresses. I cannot say that reading "Mind and Cosmos" advanced my thinking very much. Too bad.
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3 of 4 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Brilliantly intellectually quirky, 25 Sep 2013
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Nagel sets out, as he says "not so much to argue against reductionism as to investigate the consequences of rejecting it - to present the problem rather than to propose a solution".In doing this he bravely challenges many of the givens of modern thought, especially scientific thought. He identifies three areas - consciousness, cognition and value which he claims a purely physically derived understanding of the world cannot explain. He accepts science will go on to explain many things it has not yet explained, but his key point is that we should not assume that physical reductionism will ever provide all the answers, (in this he includes the current formulation of Darwinism). And in not being able to provide the answers he argues we must re-think our whole approach to understanding the world. This is a short book, densely argued, and sometimes a bit repetitive. I suspect it will become regarded as an important book. Like any really interesting argument, you may completely disagree with it, but it is still worth reading.
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4.0 out of 5 stars An atheist who does not accept the contemporary materialistic reductionism ..., 24 July 2014
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An atheist who does not accept the contemporary materialistic reductionism. Their arguments gain more strength, somehow. Sometimes it is not sufficiently clear.
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7 of 10 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Possibly a paradigm-changing book in the philosophy of science, 18 Jun 2013
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Nagel has argued throughout much of his work that the experiencing-subject, the conscious mind is not easily explained within the current materialist neo-Darwinian idea of nature. In this short book he lays out his argument more broadly and in a systematic way. He argues that any comprehensive idea of the universe needs to provide a unified explanation that includes an explanation of the development of consciousness and of the power of reasoning in beings like ourselves.

This may turn out to be the most important book of the first half of the twenty-first century.
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2 of 3 people found the following review helpful
2.0 out of 5 stars unconvincing writing style but good ideas, 19 Jan 2014
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This is an interesting and courageous book given the rather abusive attacks launched by the defenders of evolutionary orthodoxy. Its original idea is to be commended but it possesses many weaknesses. Most of all it is not convincing, one never feels that the author really fully believes what he is talking about. Why is this so? It is the writing style which is convoluted, confusing and needlessly tedious at times. Occasionally it blooms with a few interesting pages where the argument grows and convinces the reader. Unfortunately this does not happen anywhere near enough. Nonetheless, the ideas concerning value, consciousness etc are good ones when it comes explaining them using current scientifically accepted arguments using the mechanistic, reductionistic, evolutionary perspective which is the only acceptable approach allowed by the scientific orthodoxy. The book does appear to get a little confused between the evolutionary type ideas and the older materialist and idealist philosophies expressed since the enlightenment. I believe that this book could have been much better and far more convincing if it had been better written and with more passion.
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