21 of 26 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars The leftovers collection
Now that the Doctor Who dvds are nearly all out, this is a collection of bits and pieces that couldn't have been put on any other dvd release. Shada is the legendary unfinished Douglas Adams story that would have been broadcast in early 1980 if not for a strike. As some other reviews have said this boxset is really just a boxset of extras but there is still a lot to...
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67 of 82 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars It's Just A Collection Of Extras
Really nothing to get excited about here. This is definitely one for the die-hard collectors... People like me! I don't want to put people off buying this but, then I don't particularly have many positive things to say about it either. Those of you who are old enough to have watched and possibly collected the old Doctor Who VHS range and watched the sporadic 1990s...
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67 of 82 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars It's Just A Collection Of Extras,
This review is from: Doctor Who: The Legacy Collection (Shada/More Than 30 Years In The TARDIS) [DVD] (DVD)Really nothing to get excited about here. This is definitely one for the die-hard collectors... People like me! I don't want to put people off buying this but, then I don't particularly have many positive things to say about it either. Those of you who are old enough to have watched and possibly collected the old Doctor Who VHS range and watched the sporadic 1990s celebrations and screenings on the BBC will know more or less what this product is. For the younger Doctor Who enthusiasts and the people who didn't get to buy these oddities the first time around, let me fill you in. 'Shada' is an incomplete Tom Baker story. Only location footage and a small amount of studio footage was shot for the story before production was cancelled due to a BBC strike. The story was never finished and left in the archives until the early 1990s when it was released on VHS with Tom Baker linking the significant gaps between scenes with on-screen narration. I never felt satisfied with this presentation. You do get an idea of what's supposed to be happening during the story but, there is very little to keep you engaged. After one viewing, it becomes something tedious and a bit of a disappointment. However, it does have historical interest in that you actually get to see a Doctor Who story that was never broadcast. Despite being revisited by the BBC last decade and remade as an audio adventure with a new cast and accompanying minimal animation for viewing and listening on the BBC web site only (which I believe is included here in DVD ROM format) the story is still - if not more confusing than ever.
'More Than 30 Years In The Tardis' is the 30th Anniversary BBC Celebration Documentary, broadcast on the BBC in 1993 but with additional material not included in the original broadcast which had the title '30 Years In The Tardis', hence the addition of 'More Than' to the title. Have you ever seen any of the special features on a classic Doctor Who DVD, particularly the more meaty and lengthy documentaries about the show? Yes? Well this documentary is a lot like those. No? Well basically it's a Doctor Who 'Memories of Greatest Moments with Recollections of "How It Was Made"' featuring lots of classic clips inter-cut with an enormous amount of 'Talking Heads', People who acted in the series, relatives of people who acted in the series, production crew and celebrity fans of the show (who were never in it)giving us plenty of memories of watching the show and how they felt about it at the time. That's all really. I think the documentary was only really produced to promote the fact that the BBC Videos were available to buy. It was basically a nostalgic look back at a TV programme that started production 30 years earlier, finished production in 1989 - leaving our screens without a bang, not even a whimper, just fading away and with every year, leaving fans becoming increasingly concerned that it was something that was never coming back to our TV screens. From recollection, I don't think anyone who has ever bought a classic Doctor Who DVD in the past 13 years will learn anything or much they didn't already know - or haven't heard several times already. 2013 marks the 50th anniversary of Doctor Who, starting the year off with an out-dated 20 year-old documentary seems a bit odd. I really enjoyed this documentary for a few years, but that was 20 years ago. I have never seen any point in watching it over the past 10 years or more since the introduction of special feature documentaries on DVDs that deconstruct and analyze every aspect of the show right down the the very thought patterns in the heads and the glue in the hands of the people making and producing the show.
Basically, these two features deserve nothing more than 'Bonus Feature' status. Individually, they could (and should) have been tacked on to previous proper Doctor Who DVD releases. There you have it; and here it is... If you want it for the sake of being a completist or if you're such a fan of the show that you want every single piece of footage in existence that relates to the show in as high a quality as possible.
If you're a casual viewer who enjoys watching the occasional engaging and entertaining classic Doctor Who Story - best start looking for another title and give this one a miss for the time being.
If you're looking for a gift for a cash-strapped Doctor Who fan, best to ask first before buying this, it won't be appreciated by someone you don't know well enough. However, it would make an ideal gift for a fan that has possibly put it on their wish list but have more important things to spend their own money on until they can afford and be bothered to buy this. I've bought every classic Doctor who DVD release on the day of release for the past 13 years, but this time, for the first time, I think I'll just wait a while - it's really not a priority purchase right now, even as a long-time Doctor Who fan who buys every release.
21 of 26 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars The leftovers collection,
This review is from: Doctor Who: The Legacy Collection (Shada/More Than 30 Years In The TARDIS) [DVD] (DVD)Now that the Doctor Who dvds are nearly all out, this is a collection of bits and pieces that couldn't have been put on any other dvd release. Shada is the legendary unfinished Douglas Adams story that would have been broadcast in early 1980 if not for a strike. As some other reviews have said this boxset is really just a boxset of extras but there is still a lot to enjoy. Shada is barking mad and a lot of fun, seeing The Doctor and Romana and K9 in Cambridge visiting a mad old Cambridge proffessor who also happens to be a retired Time Lord who has misplaced a book that has the secrets of lost Time Lord prison Shada that an evil alien is after. Tom Baker provides linking material describing unfilmed scenes well and from the look of it Shada could have been a classic Tom Baker story if finished and broadcast as planned and there is also an animated finished version starring Paul Mcgann's 8th Doctor avaliable as well though you can only watch on PC format the animation is poor but story good fun and McGann proves as he has for Big Finish audios that he would have made a great Doctor if given a chance. More Than 30 Years In The Tardis is the 30th anniversary documentary very enjoyable with contributions from various past Doctors and companions. Definately a boxset for the die hard fans and completists only but very enjoyable if you decide to take a chance on it.
4 of 5 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Very Exciting,
This review is from: Doctor Who: The Legacy Collection (Shada/More Than 30 Years In The TARDIS) [DVD] (DVD)This is a great value box set with two versions of Shada and a classic documentary. Its a great shame shada was never competed as it could easily have been one of the best Tom baker stories. What I didn't realize was that the animated version cannot be played through the DVD player, only a computer.
4.0 out of 5 stars Enjoyable,
More Than 30 Years in the TARDIS is the documentary about Doctor Who produced in 1993 for the 30th anniversary of the show. I found this very interesting. It is worth watching if you are a fan of the classic series of the show.
12 of 17 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars A mixed bag... 'getting away with it on the cheap',
I love the story, having seen the 2003 webcast version with Paul McGann and Lalla Ward, and read the recent novelisation by Gareth Roberts.
It also remains the only Tom Baker story I haven't seen in the 21st century, having missed out on the 1992 VHS release. Like many lost things which are revered and then elevated, I think actually 'discovering it' was a disappointment - as it appears on screen, and definitely as it is presented here. Yes: the location filming in Cambridge is beautiful, as are the exquisite sets that make professor Chronotis' TARDIS (study), which is what you expect of BBC Costume Drama. These scenes jar terribly with the clearly cash-strapped season 17 approach of depicting science-fiction: notably the spaceship scenes, which are clearly the recycled computer from the previous season's Armageddon Factor; and the Kraggs, which look little better than the tin-foil Vardons from the season closer before that. I think the tag of "lost classic" doesn't hold up because the production values of the studio sections are poor, even by Who's standards.
Both Tom Baker and Lalla Ward are at the top of their game in this story in terms of their performance, and Denis Carey also puts in a wonderful turn as the mad Cambridge don/ Timelord. Anyone expecting the cinematic repeat of City of Death will be disappointed however: yes, there's lovely punting on the River Cam and a bicycle chase scene through the scenes of Cambridge, but the near-obligatory scenes of shots in cloistered corridors and covered quadrangles are oddly absent in this production.
John Nathan Turner's approach to producing the show jars so badly with the wonderful location work that it beggars belief why the BBC thought it 'feels right for the 1992 version to be the default version' presented here on this DVD: that is, Tom Baker narrating the missing, unfilmed sections whilst we are "treated" to horrendous incidental music by Keff McCulloch jarring with the footage in nearly every scene. Keff must surely be the worst composer of incidental music for any TV series, never mind just Doctor Who, and I find his 'comedy jingle' on nearly every outdoor scene with the Doctor and Romana (reminiscent of Laurel & Hardy's signature tune) highly inappropriate, as is all his work on Doctor Who. It makes the show look downright cheap, rather than lifting the production, as did Dudley Simpson's work. Similarly, the clearly early 1990s CGI effects have dated and mismatch the 1970s footage. Both the music and effects remind me why I generally dislike most of JNT's era as Doctor Who.
There is however, a wonderful documentary to go with this DVD explaining the filming and background to the strike and cancellation of this show. Notably absent from many recent DVD releases, Tom Baker contributes to this documentary and is full of his wit we are now all familiar with. Another gripe with this DVD release also is why they chose not to film a commentary, although perhaps it would have been odd to show the commentary over Tom's missing scene link narration.
I agree also with the many other reviews which state that the decision not to show Ian Levine's excellent animation to fill in the gaps remains a massive opportunity lost. You can only imagine that this DVD release has all been about cost cutting and sadly the recession means the Who range is going out on a whimper, rather than a bang.
(More than) 30 Years in the TARDIS is an excellent documentary, first brodcast in 1993 to celebrate the 30th anniversary. Celebrity fans and show contributors both reminisce about their experiences, both watching and making the series. It is nice to see Jon Pertwee contribute as this would be his last major contribution to the show on screen before his passing in 1996. The extended version here presents more footage not originally broadcast, and segments the show into 3 'parts' with 'commercial breaks' showing the Prime Computer ads of 1980 (starring Tom Baker and Lalla Ward) as well as the 'Doctor Who Sky Ray' lollies ad of the 1960s.
This release too has some nice extras; although the odd DVD menu that accompanies this release suggests that it may have been a last minute decision, as it doesn't follow the format of the other releases. The great extras here include: Remembering Nicholas Courtney, who played the brigadier. This is part filmed at his home in 2010, along with a magical visit by his friend, Tom Baker. Older interview footage ironically fill in the gaps of the story of his later life on Doctor Who, as the interview at his home had to be curtailed as by that stage Nick was very ill with cancer. 'Deadly Divas' is another great documentary: Kate O' Mara, and other female contributors, who clearly did their homework and watch some Who stories before their interview, comment on what makes a great female Doctor Who villain. Kate O' Mara, as in the series, is both witty and engaging.
Full list of extras:
- Animated Webcast version from 2003
- Taken Out of Time - documentary covering the making and cancellation of Shada
- Strike! Strike! Strike! - How strikes affected Doctor Who stories
- Now and Then - comparing Cambridge now with 1979
- Being a Girl - looking at the representation of women in Who
More than 30 Years in the TARDIS:
- Remembering Nicholas Courtney - as above in review
- Doctor Who Stories - Peter Purves - Blue Peter presenter comments on his time in Who, shot in 2003
- The Lambert Tapes - Part 1: Verity Lambert talks about her time on the series
- Those Deadly Divas - as above, starring Kate O'Mara , Camille Coduri and Tracey Ann-Oberman
A poor start to the 50th anniversary, although some great extras to be found.
7 of 10 people found the following review helpful
2.0 out of 5 stars Α Conscious Effort to bring Ian Levine's version to the forefront....,
I honestly think its silly to deny this unique Doctor Who story to be released in its full form, despite the half that was never filmed being animated, because A) the thing was privately financed by Levine anyway, and its B)its done, which means they'll only have to distribute it. Furthermore, its a Tom Baker Doctor Who story, and one of the last serials that he did, AND Douglas Adams' swan song on the show, and one that got priority to realize, to the expense of other serials such as the rather awful Horns of Nimon.
I think BBC Entertainment and, more so, 2|entertain owe the fans the unique chance to release "Shada" in its full form and with no excuses. Release with bare-bones extras if need be, but release it. Because as it is, it'll always be frustrating a half-story that never got finished.
7 of 10 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars From the vaults,
First is Shada. The legendary lost 'classic' of the old show. A six part story written to finish off Tom Baker's sixth year. It would have been the last for the producer and script editor of the time. The latter being Douglas Adams of Hitchhiker's guide fame. Who also wrote Shada. Shada sees the Fourth Doctor and Romana visit Cambridge to see an old friend. Only to find that said friend is in possession of a secret that mad scientist Skagra needs in order to further his quest for universal domination. The location of the legendary prison planet of the Time Lords...
Shada was never completed because of a strike at the BBC. For years after, it attained cult status amongst fans simply because it was a story we'd never seen, therefore it was bound to be great. A couple of clips from it were used in 'the Five Doctors.' Then the BBC finally put the whole thing together, using all the footage that was produced and various visual effects, plus linking narration from Tom Baker in character. Said character being the actor called Tom Baker who used to play the Doctor.
Then we discovered what Douglas Adams. Shada wasn't actually that good.
Shada actually is somewhat better than that assessment. But Doctor Who stories of the time that ran to six parts did so by necessity to fill out the required two extra episodes. So it does feel stretched. The bigger problem though is that whilst there's a lot of footage and only occasional narration early on, as the episodes go by, there's less footage and lots more narration. It just feels that you hardly get much of the former.
It really remains a fascinating glimpse at what could have been.
The DVD is a straight reissue of the VHS version, albeit with some cleaning up of visual effects.
However, as an extra, you do get an online version of the story that was done over a decade later. Which has Paul McGann as the eighth Doctor and Lalla Ward as a somewhat older Romana in the story. This is a full cast audio drama which was broadcast online using flash animation for the visuals. This version is accessible by putting the disc onto a computer and opening up the files. The flash animation is very basic. The opening scene is pretty clever in how it gets the Eighth Doctor into the story, and also explains the use of the the clips in the Five Doctors. But beyond that the script is much the same. Thus it's the same as the cd soundtrack of this version that came out a while back, but it's a more complete version of the story in many ways.
The dvd has the following language and subtitle options:
It's also English audio captioned.
It has the usual extras for this range of:
Production information subtitles.
Coming soon trailer. [as ever with flashing images].
Plus several documentaries:
Taken out of time. All about Shada, this runs for twenty five minutes. Is very informative. Has lovely Cambridge locations. And Tom Baker walking his dog. So it's well worth a watch.
Strike! Strike! Strike! is roughly thirty minutes long and all about how strikes affected the show down the years. This is a fascinating trip down memory lane for those of a certain age with some great old footage. It's also well worth a look.
Now and then: runs just under ten minutes and compares the Cambridge locations for the story as they are now to as they were in 1979. Some great scenery makes this a good watch.
Being a girl runs for twenty five minutes and looks at how the show has treated female characters down the years. It's not entirely sure what point it's trying to make but it's a watchable production.
The other release in this box set is More than Thirty years in the TARDIS. Back in 1993, the BBC broadcast a documentary to mark the show's thirtieth anniversary. But a lot was cut from it for timing reasons. A VHS version came out with all the cut bits reinstated. This is a reissue of that VHS version. It could be a very out of date programme now but it does remain an excellent piece of work, with reconstructions of key scenes, excellent interviews, and some good presentation. It is still one of the best documentaries made about the show.
This has the same language and subtitle options as Shada, plus the photo gallery, coming soon trailer and production infromation subtitles.
For an easter egg, press the down key on the dvd remote till the menu gets to photo gallery, then press left then press play. For a short snippet from an interview with Director Richard Martin about his professional relationship with producer Verity Lambert. It's worth a watch.
Extras on this dvd are:
Remembering Nicholas Courtney. A twenty five minute long tribute to the actor who played the Brigadier. It uses footage from an unfinished 2010 interview where he was clearly in poor health, but these sections do contain a big surprise. So their inclusion is justified. Beyond that it is a fine tribute, with some classic archival footage from other shows you might have never expected to see again.
Doctor who stories. More interviews recorded for 2003's the story of Doctor Who, with first Doctor companion Peter Purves and original producer Verity Lambert. Running fourteen and ten minutes each both are very good interviewees and these are good viewing.
Those deadly divas is a twenty five minute long feature [approx] about some of the stronger female characters on the show down the years. With contributions from many of the actresses in question, it's a lively and entertaining production.
These are not two of the most essential dvds in the range, but both offer some good viewing, and the whole collection is overall worth getting.
5 of 8 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars One for the Fans,
Intended to finish off the 1979-80 season, 'Shada' was supposed to be a 6 part story but due to industrial action was never completed. The recorded material is quite limited and has been pinned together by some brief but spirited linking material recorded by Tom Baker. The finished product is reasonably entertaining, but what exists doesn't exactly cry out 'classic' in the way that contributors to the documentaries would imply.
The flash animation version of 'Shada' with Paul McGann and Lalla Ward is also included and can be played via your computer. Although the restriction to computer playback is disappointing, this is a good version of the story
The original documentary was slightly updated and became known as 'More Than 30 Years in the TARDIS'. To me it relies a little too much on contributions from celebrities that had no involvement in the programme. The documentary is peppered with nice recreations of classic scenes, but the documentary adds little to the knowledge of fans.
The special features probably add more for me in this set, the tribute to Nicholas Courtney and the interview with Verity Lambert are my favourites.
If you're a completist than this will be an essential purchase, but this set is probably not one for the casual viewer or the mildly curious.
1 of 2 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars Average,
12 of 19 people found the following review helpful
2.0 out of 5 stars Missed opportunity,
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Doctor Who: The Legacy Collection (Shada/More Than 30 Years In The TARDIS) [DVD] by Tom Baker (DVD - 2013)