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4.0 out of 5 stars Excellent narrative on Ancient war and politics
Adrian Goldsworthy has combined ancient sources and modern interpretations to give us a breathtaking account of the three wars which raged between Rome and its Mediterranean rival, Carthage over the course of a century. One of his strengths is his ability to describe the complex logistics and manoeuvres of the significant battles of this era. He also gives perceptive...
Published on 3 Jan 2007 by Hugh Claffey

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I recently read the Leonard Cottrell book, and wanted a slightly more scholarly treatment of the Punic Wars. This isn't it. It's essentially just another reworking of the ancient historians, mainly Polybius. True, in the absence of corroborating evidence Goldsworthy occasionally reminds us to take some of their assertions with a pinch of salt; but he doesn't have any...
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4.0 out of 5 stars Excellent narrative on Ancient war and politics, 3 Jan 2007
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Adrian Goldsworthy has combined ancient sources and modern interpretations to give us a breathtaking account of the three wars which raged between Rome and its Mediterranean rival, Carthage over the course of a century. One of his strengths is his ability to describe the complex logistics and manoeuvres of the significant battles of this era. He also gives perceptive accounts of the political machinations which brought about the policies, alliances and betrayals of the period.

The most successful and effective general of the entire tale, is Hannibal, one of the Barca family, and Goldsworthy gives him his due, describing the tactics by which he invaded Rome from Spain, and humiliated legion after Roman legion. However the narrative is clear that Hannibal's invasion was a gamble - he ditched his heavier equipment in order to speed the crossing of the Alps, and arrived in Rome without the ability or inclination to capture population centres. It is here that Goldsworthy's admiration of the sheer obduracy of the Romans shines through. Hannibal, with Italy at his feet, after destroying many legions, sent negotiators to treat with Rome. To his astonishment, the negotiators were sent away, unheard. The Romans simply would not be defeated, Hannibal was impotent to take the city, and though he roamed undefeated in the Italian peninsula for many years, his enemy would not give up.

There are detailed accounts of the rise and re-election of various Roman consuls and generals, the authoritarian nature of the elected elite, and the various factions which ruled Rome. I found it interesting that those plebs who did achieve elective office and military leadership, sometimes found that while their ascent was meteoric, their lack of privileged family backround could prove their undoing when events moved against them.

It has been said that history is written by the victors, and the book is significantly less descriptive and detailed when dealing with Carthaginian affairs. However I think the spirit of the Romans shines through, their ability to describe their own society, their sheer self-belief led to their creating and leaving detailed accounts of themselves and their society in a way which was unmatched among their neighbouring societies.

Overall this is an excellent survey of the events, and contains significant pointers for a deeper study of the various elements.
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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Almost The Definitive Work, 1 April 2010
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Almost, but not quite is how I would describe this Adrian Goldsworthy history of the three Punic Wars. Saying that, you won't get better at the moment.

The fact that at the time the wars started Carthage was actually far more powerful than Rome is something to think about. The sorry fact is that because Rome destroyed the city at the end of the Third Punic War means that any history of Carthage will always be very one sided. Even today we can get first hand accounts of the German or Japanese perspective in the Second World War, but Rome wiped Carthage off the map.

The three wars are covered elaborately, and you walk away feeling you have been well educated. For a similar 'lesson' get Goldsworthy's book on Julius C - excellent.

He also uses several historical sources to get a better idea of what did happen, as obviously because the Romans won so overwhelming there is a lot of 'propaganda' showing the Romans in a better light, and Goldsworthy leads us through this. Did they 'salt' the earth after razing the city? Well, it's doubtful they actually razed the city RIGHT to the ground in the first place.

For me this only feels short of five stars in two areas.

The first in during the descriptions of the Second Punic War he splits the war into Land and Sea campaigns, so you read about the naval battles first THEN the land battles in a seperate section. It may have seemed easier but to the reader this can mean thumbing back to the naval section when a casual reference is made to a sea battle during the land war chapters. I'd have just preferred going in order from one to the other.

The only other issue is that in this book he just seems to have trimmed the 'niggly' details. Let's face it, some of the atrocious things and the shocking moments are what keep us coming back to history, but in this book Goldsworthy just seems to have left things out or described in a short sentence something that might have needed some elaboration.

It is the book that I will judge any history of the Punic Wars by, but I felt at the end of it that it could have offered that little more.

I still would not hesitate to buy it again, though. Excellent stuff again Mr G!
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21 of 24 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars An informed, accessible introduction, 19 Sep 2004
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Adrian Goldsworthy provides an entertaining and accessible account of the Punic Wars, which those with no classical education should find an interesting read. Goldsworthy himself points out the fact that the British education system would have rendered this account unnecessary fifty years ago, but the decline of Latin as a school subject has left a generation (at least) unfamiliar with this long conflict.
Goldsworthy attempts to identify the facts of the battles as distinct from the conjecture, and is at pains to point out the limits of knowledge today (even with the benefits of archaeology to help lift some of the uncertainty). He also makes it clear that we must regard the sources as being tainted from the victor's perspective - for of course no Punic accounts of the conflicts survive. He uses general knowledge of the period to explain the context in which the wars were taking place, and how the changes in technology led to changes in the way in which war was being carried out.
This well-rounded account is supplemented with maps of the several of the battles, facilitating comprehension. However, there are no diagrams or pictures of other aspects of the time (a reproduction of a Trireme, for instance would have been a useful supplement to the lengthy descriptions of the text). This omission aside, the book is a good general read, going beyond a simple recitation of events, which serves to put the wars in an appropriate context.
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6 of 7 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars A superb narrative of the Punic Wars, 2 Feb 2011
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I enjoyed reading this book perhaps more than any other book on the Roman Republic and the ancient world. I pondered at first whether it was simply the epic story of the clash between Rome and Carthage that I enjoyed, or if it was down to Mr Goldsworthy's excellent portrayal of events; I have decided that it is probably both.

This war offers a story like no other in my opinion. The scale of the conflict is staggering, even by today's standards; some of the casualty figures seen in the Second Punic War were scarce repeated in history, even during the carnage of the 1914-18 war. And quite how Rome managed to turn the tide of a war that was effectively lost after a catastrophic defeat in 216 BC likewise beggars belief.

These early times of the Roman Republic are fascinating for all readers, not least those with an historical interest; and, as Goldsworthy notes, it is a shame that teachings of the ancient world are not included on the school national curriculum.

Perhaps Goldsworthy's biggest success with this book is that he presents the Punic Wars to the average reader, meaning that this work is not targeting a small scholarly audience. Though while on this point I should perhaps mention that the book does not discuss the differing opinions of various historians, which are crucial for academic readers.
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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars The best introduction and overview of the Punic Wars?, 25 Jun 2014
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This book, while perhaps not perfect and containing some questionable statements, is probably the best introduction, overview and starting point for someone wanting to get to grips with the Punic Wars. It is also an excellent introduction to Rome’s dominance of the Mediterranean and of Roman imperialism, more generally, with these elements, and the “Roman way” of waging war, being the author’s real speciality.

Perhaps the main merit of this book is to clearly identify why Rome won the first two epic and lengthy wars according to Goldsworthy. As the author shows, Roman commanders and their legions and allies were not necessarily and inherently better than their Carthaginian opponents either on sea or even on land. What really made the difference was Roman relentlessness and the extraordinary level of commitment to fighting wars to the finish backed by a much larger manpower pool that they were willing to use until they had achieved a total and unquestionable victory. This included the ability to suffer appalling losses in both wars, and still refuse to make peace. This attitude that was very much at odds with that of any Hellenistic State, or any other state for that matter, in the Mediterranean, Carthage included.

The author also put emphasis on the fact that the Carthaginians not only expected Rome to admit that it was defeated, something that did not happen, but also on several occasions did not take full advantage of their victories and did not prosecute the war as aggressively as the Romans. This was evidenced during the First Punic War, with the author following Lazenby in showing that Carthage essentially reacted to Rome’s aggressiveness and never seem to have taken the initiative. This was particularly the case after their naval victory at Drepanum when they neither carried the war to Italy, as the Romans had invaded Africa a few years before, nor did they even seek to reconquer lost positions in Sicily, for instance Panormus (modern Palermo). Something similar happened during the Second Punic War during which Hannibal received almost no military reinforcements or support from Carthage during his very long presence in Southern Italy, with a single exception.

A related point is the almost total absence of the Carthaginian navy during the Second Punic War, something that the author explains by the lack of bases in both Sicily and Sardinia, since both had been lost to the Romans. While there were Carthaginian attempts to take them back, the general impression given in the book is that these were somewhat half-hearted and not fully prosecuted.

While the narrative of events is well told, and the main land and sea engagements are well-described, even if largely reliant on previous authors (Lazenby in particular, whose separate books on both the First and the Second Punic War are more detailed) it is because of these higher level strategic points that this book stands out, and it is because of this that it is more than simply an introduction and overview of the main events.

There are however a few “glitches”, although they may be relatively minor and peripheral to the main narrative. One of the most obvious ones is the author’s tendency to present the Roman victories against the Kings of Macedon and the Seleucids as almost “easy”, which was simply not the case. In particular, the Romans almost lost the battle of Magnesia and only triumphed because the Seleucid King did not properly exploit his successful cavalry charge which had broken one of the Roman legions facing him. Another related point is to present the Roman armies as being made up of “non-professional” citizen militia while curiously portraying the Hellenistic forces as made up of “professionals.” In both cases, this is rather misleading, given that the Roman forces on the 190s included a large proportion of veterans of the Second Punic War while the Hellenistic phalanxes were made up of soldier-farmers, in other words, they were also “citizen militias” (with the exception of the Royal Guards and, in the case of the Seleucids, the Argyraspides).

One last point is the narrative of the Third Punic War, which I found remarkable in several respects. As mentioned by the author, while the outcome of the war was never really in doubt, the Carthaginians did this time display outstanding determination since they were, quite literally, fighting for their survival and that of their city, homes and families. The rather desperate, dramatic and often successful efforts to stave off the inevitable outcome contrasts with what the author’s presents as the poor discipline of the Roman forces that their commanders, the younger Scipio included, seemed somewhat surprisingly either unable or unwilling to curtail.

I could not help wondering to what extent this last point, according to which the quality of Roman armies somewhat deteriorated once the generation that had fought during the Second Punic War was replaced, may have been somewhat exaggerated by the author and even questionable.

A close look at the Third Macedonian War that saw the demise of the Macedonian Kingdom or at the endemic conflicts and the major difficulties that Rome encountered in Spain shows that the Romans did not have it all their way. The author seems to have chosen to explain this by their lower performance. It seems to have also been because their adversaries were far from being “easy targets”, contrary to the impression that the author tends to give at times. What does seem clear, however, is that to the extent that the Romans kept up their relentless attitude towards war, any adversary that did not have both the same level of commitment and a pool of manpower as large as that of the Romans was bound to lose against them in the long run, even if imposing the “Pax Romana” could take almost a couple of centuries, as it did in Spain. Four solid stars.
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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Great book, 3 Aug 2013
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I have a very happy chappy, who enjoyed reading this book whilst i enjoyed the beach holiday...no moans no groans of boredom..
Thank you seller for prompt delivery..
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5.0 out of 5 stars The Fall of Carthage, 23 July 2013
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This review is from: The Fall of Carthage: The Punic Wars 265-146BC (CASSELL MILITARY PAPERBACKS) (Kindle Edition)
Another classic by Adrian Goldsworthy, well researched and a very good read for all enthusiasts of ancient history, specially the methodical Roman way of doing things and coming up trumps.
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4.0 out of 5 stars The Fall of Carthage, 18 April 2011
I enjoyed this history - very readable yet informative.

After an initial introduction the book is split into three parts ie the three punic wars. The section on naval warfare in the 1st Punic war was the reason I purchased the book and although only 30 pages long I was not disappointed.
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4.0 out of 5 stars superlative treatment of the moment when Rome became an Empire, 12 April 2011
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I think that Adrian Goldsworthy is the best popular historian on Rome working today. While he has a beautiful writing style, he also is thoroughly versed in the scholarly issues, which he brings into the discussion without the excesses of academic proofs and oneupmanship. It is a very difficult balance to strike and the author does it to perfection. This book is at the undergraduate level, for those seriously interested in the three Punic Wars. Rather than make comparisons with the present, the author's purpose is to explain the wars in historical context, from a strictly military point of view; in this way, to his great credit, he refuses to make fatuous generalizations of relevance to the twit pundits who have way too much to say about things they know way too little about.

The book starts off pretty dry, with a long discussion of the states of Carthage and Rome at the time that the conflict began. While I was very interested in the political systems of both states and the tidbits that Goldsworthy includes on their civilizations, his dissection of their military machines was a bit too much for me. The Romans relied primarily on a reservoir of manpower from farm owners in Italy, which included extremely loyal Latin and Italian allies in addition to some Spanish mercenaries. They were driven by patriotism, were governed in accordance with the yearly elected consuls of the Republican system, and were essentially amateur soldiers. With their reservoir of human capital, their great advantage lay in the application of overwhelming brute force, which they applied until their adversaries were exhausted. Politics was inextricably linked to military action, though the consuls were patrician aristocrats seeking glory for parochial political motives and hence also military amateurs. Up to this point, there was little refinement or subtlety to their tactics and diplomacy.

In contrast, the Carthaginians had a dispersed empire that spanned the western Mediterranean in a C-shape. There was a core of Carthaginian aristocrats that controlled all of the myriad ethnic groups under their influence, mainly for purposes of trade - mostly maritime - and only secondarily for military use; they excelled at nuanced diplomacy and negotiation. In addition, there was a caste of professional military officers, who managed a huge mercenary army and various allies that operated in relatively separate units (i.e. wings even in a common army, which fundamentally effected their cohesion). With their experience from an early age, the military leader caste operated more from intelligent tactics and highly developed specializations, in particular in naval maneuverability, the use of elephants to overawe their adversaries on land, and flexible military formations.

The first Punic War broke out over control of Sicily, which was a patchwork of Carthaginian, Greek, and Italianate city states. After many indecisive skirmishes, Rome sent troops - the first time they left the Italian peninsula! - and built its first navy. In time, after many disasters, some natural others via lack of experience, the Roman navy beat Carthage by attrition as did the Roman Army. Carthage sued for peace, agreed to pay massive indemnities (which they did), and gave up Sicily and many other possessions for the promise of peace as subordinates.

Hannibal, of the Barca military clan, was assigned Spain, which he consolidated for Carthage to the growing disquiet of Rome. It was clear from the outset that he was an extraordinary military talent, though little is known about his character or psychology, though his motivation was to weaken Rome as a prelude to negotiation rather than destroy it. As tensions built, in 218 BCE - after more than 20 years of peace - at 26 years of age, Hannibal moved a massive army across the Alps into Italy, an unprecedentedly massive movement of troops, complete with elephants, and attacked Rome at its heart. He gathered many followers along the way (in a scale of tens of thousands, of SPaniards and Gauls, but, significantly, rarely of Latins or Italians) that he had to feed, arm, and inspire. This he did by winning early significant victories, ravaging the countryside, and stealing what he could while vainly attempting to recruit southern Italians.

The Romans had never faced such a threat, from a strategist and leader of genius who adapted his tactics to their weaknesses, e.g. Cannae, where he enveloped and attacked from behind a massive Roman phalanx that could only march forward and hence unable to regroup and reform, resulting in a slaughter of nearly 50,000 Romans, or 1/10 of the entire potential military manpower in Italy. In all later military literature, Cannae became a touchstone noun. Against their military culture, the Romans voted in a dictator for 6 months, Fabius Maximus, who harassed but would not engage Hannibal in any decisive battles (named the Fabien strategy). It bought Rome time to regroup and attack in N. Africa, once again bringing its adversary down by superior force. Never defeated in Italy, Hannibal had been ordered to defend Carthage - his only failure - and was exiled soon after the defeat. Rome emerged with a far better trained army under its own military genius, Scipio. This was the true beginning of the Roman Empire. The third Punic War was shamefully manufactured by Rome and consisted of a siege of Carthage, which was completely destroyed in 146 BCE.

The difference between the 2 Empires was that, contrary to the expectations of Carthage, Rome regarded the fight as one to the death: the Roman republicans refused all compromise and instead of giving up, resolved to fight on no matter what the sacrifice, even at the risk of total destruction. This explains why in the end, when they had the means in spite of Carthage's behavior as a good subordinate power, the Romans resolved to annihilate any rival power. Rome then went on to completely dominate the entire Mediterranean, the undisputed power of the ancient world for the next 600 years or so, in large part from what it learned from the conflict with Carthage. This is military history at its absolute best.
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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars just great!, 8 Aug 2010
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Adrian Goldsworthy is by far one of my favourite authors and own all of his books... all of which amaze me with their descriptions of their subject matter but are also very easy to read. this one was the last of his works that i have purchased and like all the others, i couldnt stop reading this. the detail of the fierce struggle between rome and carthage from the start of hostilities is just great and really makes you think what it must have felt to have lived in that time.
look forward to the next book from Adrian!
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