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Football Manager 2012 (PC/Mac DVD)
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177 of 195 people found the following review helpful
on 2 November 2011
Although the game is ok, it really doesn't warrant £30 'IF' you already have Football Manager 2011. The Steam activation is ridiculous, having to be on-line, one code, no resale value, extra memory wasted on Steam running in the background etc etc...with very little benefit to the consumer. We don't mind annoyances if they benefit us, after all its us paying the money. However this only benefits Sports Interactive.

I have played Football Manager 2011 to the point where my saved game shows that I have played it for 14 days straight, and now playing this, I really don't see any new benefits that warrant £30 of my money? It's slower, and wow! I can now talk in a tone? It's just a gimmick. You now spend far too much time farting around with how you think you sound rather than working on the things that matter, your tactics, training, and scouting & buying players. Media may get repetitive, but I get passed that by inputting and adding to the answers with my own quotes in the comment section.

So apart from a database and date update (which if you scour the internet you'll find a new database for the 2011 release), tone, more stuff on the screen (more of exactly the same stuff as last year I may add),and oh a new camera angle, there really is nothing to warrant spending £30 'IF' you already have 2011. Unless your just keeping up with the Jones's and need the newest of everything. Even the layout, skin and fonts are the same.

Please save your money. I played the demo, and played the full version at a mates, and I wanted to love it, I really did, but at best its just a patch. A patch which they charge you a lot of money for. They can't even be bothered to print a manual, instead they have just updated last years and stuck it on the internet. When you spend £30 on a game, its about the presentation, the packaging, the extra touches, like a nice manual. I know it sounds silly but its a lot of money, and its all part of what you buy into.

It annoys me that they market it as a brand new game in it's own right, when it just isn't. I mean really how much can be done in 7 months? (You need the other 4 or 5 months at least for testing) They would be better off releasing a new one every 2 years, one with substantial updates, and a full game in its own right. But they won't, because the don't care about the product or the consumer, but the money. Me? I'm sticking with last years, and will take a look again next year. I suggest others with 2011 do the same. However if you don't have 2011, its worth a look.
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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
on 7 December 2012
Product very good. Delivery on the other hand, disastrous. It did not arrive on estimated delivery date. Called Amazon about it, had to give it a week, called them again and they replaced it with no further cost. Very pleased with that, it was delivered 2 days after the phone call. Until today (more than a month ago) i still haven't received the first original game. So that one has been lost in the post office.
Game itself is very good. My boyfriend Is happy with it.
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20 of 25 people found the following review helpful
on 4 November 2011
This is the one game where I have actually played it on most forms of transport and whilst I was travelling for a year fm2011 actually helped on the long train journeys. Not many guys get time to play games without their girlfriends whinging so to take away some of the portability of the game is a complete disaster for this version. Maybe if you switch the offline/online thing it might be ok, but what if you forget and you are away - you are screwed.
Its been gettiing lamer of the years anyway - I still have the fondest memories of watching little round men running around now you get bogged down in stupid detail for the sake of addding more useless stuff every year.
Fm2011 is where I stop.
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15 of 19 people found the following review helpful
on 25 October 2011
New FM is a great game, new database, new cool scouting system and upgraded pre-match chat system. I had real fun playing demo and I 100% will be going for a full version... NOT. Why? Simply because it requires steam to play it. I use my laptop to play FM and it seems I won't be able to do it anymore while I'm away. It's useless every single time I leave home. It's useless on the plane. It's useless on the boat. It's useless in the park. It's useless in...

Don't get me wrong: you should definitely get it if you are planning to play it at home only because as a game it shines as every FM.
As a product for which you have to pay your hard-won cash it isn't a good deal, though because of a pain in you know where called steam. Shame...
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21 of 27 people found the following review helpful
on 23 October 2011
Without doubt the best fottball sim money can buy. As in depth as always with more added to make it even better than last year. However, only steam compatible, wrong move there. Wasn't a problem for me but FM should really be offered as the base game also. Such a shame.
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on 4 January 2012
Still a great concept, but having to be online to play is crazy! I wanted to play in on the coach because there is no WIFI i couldn't play! Its one thing making you have to register online but quite another not being able to play. THIS IS SUPPOSE TO BE A GAME. NOT AN ONLINE GAME. And I can't be bothered with these tone of voice team talks just rather get on with playing.
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2 of 3 people found the following review helpful
on 21 June 2012
As a long-time player of the CM/FM series since 1998, it's probably only natural that I'd feel a fair bit more jaded than most but here goes. First and foremost, all other football management simulations lag far behind Football Manager, of that there is no doubt. Therefore, if you're a prospective newcomer to the series, chances are you would love Football Manager and there's no time like the present to introduce yourself to the series. Having said that, you might be better off picking an outdated version of the game on the cheap as quite frankly, there has not been much difference between recent versions. FM 2009 was a big milestone with its introduction of the 3D match engine, while FM 2010 introduced a new and innovative tactics system which is far more realistic and engaging than the classic sliders system that it replaced. Since then though, FM 2011 and FM 2012 have been glorified data updates. There have been a handful of new features introduced, but nothing ground-breaking and most of them are riddled with horrendous bugs and/or limitations to the point of the game being better off if they weren't added to it!

FM's main issues have existed for years, but Sports Interactive seem intent on introducing new features instead of addressing them. An attempt at masking holes which they are unable to fill? Who knows. One of the problems is AI squad management, which can have a bearing on one's enjoyment of medium-long term saves in particular. A quick glance at an AI team may reveal an apparent lack of central midfielders, yet the AI may sooner bring in a striker instead, and to make matters worse, there's a chance that the new signing may not even get to play a match due to the AI squad already having several strikers who are better than the one they bought! AI squad building can be incredibly random and this leads to severely weakened AI squads as the seasons go by, as well as an absurd amount of talent overlooked for years which the human manager can then pick up on the cheap (or even for free).

Tactics generally aren't realistic and this is something which will bother the more avid and knowledgeable football hoping for an authentic match engine which accurately emulates the beautiful game. 4-4-2, 4-4-1-1, 4-4-2 diamond, 5-3-2, and 5-2-3 are the only formations reminiscent to real life. The other formations are a mess, especially 4-5-1 variants, where wingers barely track back at all and may as well be thought of as being strikers. Sometimes they don't even pick up opposition wingbacks! The pre-set 4-3-3 is the easiest formation to overachieve with, although it utilises 3 strikers and has precious little in common with 4-3-3 in real life. In fact, it leaves opposition wingbacks completely unmarked, but the significance of this is minimal in a match engine which is heavily in favour of attacking intent and punishes defensive football.

Last but not least, the game's general lack of difficulty is an issue which becomes annoying over time. Once you've mastered the morale mini-games and your team is brimming with confidence, it is virtually guaranteed that the players will perform above the sum-of-their-parts and you will overachieve. Unless you're a new user the game is easy, no two ways about it. If you peruse FM fansite communities, you will see that everyone dominates the game and their teams enjoy lengthy unbeaten runs. Even if you start a game as a footballing minnow, you will always take them up the divisions and contesting Champions League finals after about 10 seasons. Success is inevitable, and realisation of this can make the game boring unless you explore ways in which to handicap yourself.

Despite its flaws, the game finds a way to be compelling and addictive, and there's plenty of depth to immerse yourself in. If you're a casual football fan and/or are yet to play Football Manager, you will thoroughly enjoy the game and shouldn't hesitate to give it a try. If you're someone who comes back to the series periodically after waiting x years, you should probably wait a bit longer before you pick up another version of the game as it's very much the same game under the hood. If you're a long-term player who picks up the game each year no matter what, why are you wasting your time in reading this review? You'll always get the game no matter what! ;)
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on 1 September 2014
Football management games have lost the un-put-downability that they used to have. Yes they are more realistic and more detailed. But they are much less fun. Bring back the days of Championship Manager and LMA Manager. They were flawed but they were fun.
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2 of 3 people found the following review helpful
I preorderd this, so I've been playing it since the first day it was out. Frankly, I'm disappointed. Changes have been made that just complicate the game, without adding functionality. Common routines now take more clicks because things have been reorganised into more tabs. Information that you frequently refer to during the game is no longer so simple to call up. The writers seem to have made change for the sake of change. Last year's Footie Manager was a definite 5 stars for me; this one is not as good. I will now download a 2011/12 league for last year's game and play that instead.
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2 of 3 people found the following review helpful
on 17 February 2012
But isn't for me.

I love footie manager games. The ones I already own are straight forward. Football manager 2012 requires way too much faffing around and way too time consuming. If you don't want to sit there for around an hour between every game.. I suggest buying either LMA Manager 2003 for PS2 (can be played on PS3) or download championship manager 01 02 for free online!! [...] + you can get a recent update for it. Very straight forward and addictive football manager games :)
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