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33 of 33 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars A great tragedy
THis film uses probably the most available footage outside of the Military authorities to cover the all too brief life of what was a revolutionary design. An aircraft so blindingly fast that on one of its two engines it could out accelerate the latest state of the art fighter chase plane. Good coverage of the developement programme with revealing interviews with Roland...
Published on 2 Oct. 2005 by Mike Dickinson

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3.0 out of 5 stars Unreal hope
Unreal hope.

The political history of this plane may be murky but the intended military use and reasons for its demise seems to be very clear.

In the 1950s the RAF held the UK nuclear deterrent with an aging fleet of "V" bombers and the use of the so called "stand off" bomb. The final mark of RAF bombers were supposed to fly as close to the intended...
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33 of 33 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars A great tragedy, 2 Oct. 2005
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THis film uses probably the most available footage outside of the Military authorities to cover the all too brief life of what was a revolutionary design. An aircraft so blindingly fast that on one of its two engines it could out accelerate the latest state of the art fighter chase plane. Good coverage of the developement programme with revealing interviews with Roland Beaumont the test pilot, and one person who had little time for the political interference that went on ( including intervention by Prince Phillip ). The tale is one of brilliance, jelousy and a final tragedy, if the tale of the demise of such an important aircraft is your interest, then this film is a must !
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17 of 18 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Slaughter in the Dark, 24 April 2008
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This is a compelling DVD. An amazing concept, far ahead of it's time. TSR2 represented all that is bad and the heights that UK could have reached. Told in a conversational style with lots of footage, one can't help feel that politics killed this bird. The UK / USA 'special relationship' seems to have been ok as long as the USA were on top!
Parliament of the day should have held it's head in shame. How can the only two ministers with authority at the time state that they 'don't think' it was their decision? Great to watch technically, morally and socially.
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18 of 20 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Very Good, 6 Jan. 2007
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David Southern "southern_david2" (Newcastle, UK) - See all my reviews
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I enjoyed this DVD! The story of the TSR2 is a sad one, with ignorance, incompetence and an in-built tendency for the British government to sabotage what would have been the one of the finest aircraft ever built. Years ahead of anything then flying!
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3.0 out of 5 stars Unreal hope, 12 Aug. 2013
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James Wells "Cambyses" (KSA) - See all my reviews
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Unreal hope.

The political history of this plane may be murky but the intended military use and reasons for its demise seems to be very clear.

In the 1950s the RAF held the UK nuclear deterrent with an aging fleet of "V" bombers and the use of the so called "stand off" bomb. The final mark of RAF bombers were supposed to fly as close to the intended target as possible and then fire the rocket powered nuclear missile. With the small scale of the British nuclear deterrent the only viable target was Moscow itself.

How the British bomber was supposed to get close enough to the target, launch the missile and get safely away afterwards was never explained and in the wings was lurking the steadily improving nuclear submarine.

As the viability of the nuclear submarine became ever more obvious, the RAF and British aircraft industry launched a desperate effort to develop an aircraft that was considerably superior to anything previously and which would allow the RAF to retain the nuclear deterrent. The politicians initially bought this idea and funded the development of such an aircraft.

Despite the vast sums of money thrown at the project and its apparent technical success the whole idea was ultimately, never more than an unreal hope. The armament and range of the TSR2 was very limited compared to the nuclear submarine being available for months at sea and the submarine being able to launch a whole barrage of expendable missiles. The British nuclear deterrent rapidly passed to the Royal Navy.

The TSR2 may well have eventually been a considerable success with meeting the various requirements of the RAF but the cost of the TSR2 was continuing to soar as the nuclear submarine steadily became an almost "off the shelf" weapons package. This highly advanced, and expensive plane, was simply and rapidly rendered obsolete by other methods.

This DVD avoids all the political infighting and quite rightly concentrates on the plane itself with some superb footage, not without a degree of irony, at the peak of a concept that was rapidly passing. I have long wondered whether the TSR2 was the very last gasp of the British "world power" image.
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7 of 8 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars GREAT DOCU, 15 Sept. 2010
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Mr. M. AYRES "mayres1975" (England) - See all my reviews
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Excellent, and quite sad at the same time. How a government can be this stupid is beyond me, oh no, hold on, we have another now lol. One of the most remakable aircraft ever built, scrapped before it had even entered service. Scapping this plane pretty much destroyed the UK aviation industry in one foul swoop. Very very sad indeed. This DVD should be watched, very well made indeed.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Britain's Bureaucratic Technological Loss - TSR2, 18 Oct. 2012
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This DVD is a fantastic documentary showing the development of the most advanced aircraft to be designed, built and flown by the United Kingdom; the whole project was dogged by bureaucratic meddling and in-service rivalries which killed off the worlds most advanced aircraft, it was so technologically advanced that the USA was worried that it would be left behind in the advanced avionic and flight envelope capabilities of their F-111 program. In fact a lot of the avionic developments are in use today in the Tornado aircraft, namely the terrain following computer system and the radar systems.

If this aircraft had come into service it is conceivable that it would still be in service today as a low level bomber and especially the air reconnoissance role; as it was the Canberra PR9 aircraft covered the air reconnoissance role long after the aircraft was due to end it's service life.

This DVD is very informative of the technological and political climate which dogged the aircraft's development, but the information is given in an easy to watch format; there are interviews with key people both involved in the project, and in the political arena outlining both sides of the argument, and it is left for the viewer to make up their mind on whether Britain lost out in the cancellation of this fantastic aircraft. It is very telling that all the prototype aircraft, jigs, drawings and support equipment was meant to be totally destroyed so that the program could not easily be resurrected, (American pacification........?), and it is only pure luck that a couple of airframes survive at all.

I wholly recommend this DVD to anyone who is interested in the heritage of the UK's aircraft development program which at one time put the "Great" into Britain.
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10 of 13 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Flawed but worth watching, 10 Jan. 2012
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An enjoyable documentary on the TSR2, but flawed by being pretty one-sided and relying on poor research.

The Vulcan flying test bed did not blow up "whilst taxiing" but whilst carrying out an engine ground run.

The contract for the first nine aircraft were not "pre production" but "development batch".

Hastings later claims the Americans visited the UK in 1960 to basically nick ideas for their "much less successful" F-111. Well, the swing wing concept you could say they half inched alright, but not in 1960, and the F-111 was a damn sight more successful than the TSR2!

Beamont says in early 1964 they understood the Australian government had "virtually signed up" for a contract for the TSR2. Actually they had lost interest in October 1963 and ordered F-111, as was well known at the time.

Footage of XR219's delivery to Boscombe in 1964 is mixed in with footage of XR225 arriving at Samlesbury in 1965.

Beamont says the first flight that "we flew 27 minutes" - it was 14 minutes airborne; perhaps 27 chock to chock, I'd need to check the flight test reports to make sure.

The snowy take-off and landing footage (flight 7) has been flipped horizontally and much of the air to air footage is mixed from various flights, out of chronological order.

The claim is made that the TSR2 on one reheat left a Lightning behind which was using reheat on both its engines - this is simply not true, the Lightning was only left behind briefly and caught up quickly when it engaged reheat.

"17 aircraft which formed the development batch were in various states of readiness..." - no, 9 dev batch, 2 static/fatigue test, 11 pre-production and 1 production aircraft were at various stages of construction - not readiness - by cancellation.

Lord Jenkins again gets 63 and 64 mixed up re Australian buy of F-111.

Orders weren't given "to destroy everything".

Beamont claims airframes were "dragged out onto the tarmac" and burned, and the "magnesium areas" "burned like a holocaust". All illustrated with video footage of a wooden mockup being burnt at Warton. No real airframes were burned, and the TSR2 had hardly any magnesium components.

There isn't a scrap of evidence that the Americans asked for the cancellation of TSR2 in return for an IMF loan.

It is hard to rely upon this film as a factual documentary with so many obvious errors. Thankfully the footage of the aircraft flying is worth buying it for alone.
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5.0 out of 5 stars his father worked at Warton on the TSR2 and his love of aeroplanes and jets in particular stems from his ..., 11 Jan. 2015
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I actually bought it for my husband,his father worked at Warton on the TSR2 and his love of aeroplanes and jets in particular stems from his earliest recollections of his fathers close contact with this particular plane.He found this particular dvd very informative and is taking it to Blackpool to show his dad on our next visit.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Very sad story., 15 Oct. 2013
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Too much politics stopped this aircraft before it could be the world beater it should have been. All aircraft of this complexity have problems but they were being solved. A very strange and sad story.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Five Stars, 10 July 2014
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Father in law loved it and it arrived promptly thank you
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