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4 of 4 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Is Lovehatetragedy really that good?
Yes Lovehatetragedy is really that good.
Many thought Papa Roach couldn't live up to their past success of their 'Infest' album, but the new album is a new direction and will surely maintain the sma esuccess as their previous album.
The album opens with 'M-80' a fast moving, hard hitting song that breaks the ice for how rock this album really is.
The album...
Published on 17 Sep 2002 by dangee_hotshot

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3.0 out of 5 stars Something New and Something Old
About 2 years ago not many had heard of this band then came last resort which connected with all teenagers looking for something different fed up with rnb and garage, now a year on the band has a massive popularity making them one of the most popular nu metal bands in the world along with limp bizkit and Linkin park
But nu-metal has begun to rust just like Britpop...
Published on 4 July 2002 by Mr. M. Salam


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5.0 out of 5 stars Is Lovehatetragedy really that good?, 17 Sep 2002
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This review is from: LOVEHATETRAGEDY (Audio CD)
Yes Lovehatetragedy is really that good.
Many thought Papa Roach couldn't live up to their past success of their 'Infest' album, but the new album is a new direction and will surely maintain the sma esuccess as their previous album.
The album opens with 'M-80' a fast moving, hard hitting song that breaks the ice for how rock this album really is.
The album never fails to disappoint following the opener and stand-out tracks like 'Time & Time Again' and 'Decompression Period' will surely follow 'she loves Me Not' on making a mark in the UK singles top 20.
The songs reflect singer Jacoby Shaddix (formely Coby Dick) feelings of the past couple of years towards personal happenings like on 'Black Clouds', which is about Jacoby's slip into depression following a hard European tour a short while ago.
With 'Walking Thru Barbed Wire' being about Jacoby's pet dog that died, and the song lets you hear the full pain of what it feels like when someone close to you dies, and is something very relatable to many people.
Overall, the album never drops below par and is evidence that Papa Roach surely stand-out as a great band, among the huge influx of new American bands aiming for the big-time.
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3.0 out of 5 stars Something New and Something Old, 4 July 2002
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Mr. M. Salam "buyernotseller" (Inside a Giant Enemy Crab) - See all my reviews
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This review is from: Lovehatetragedy (Audio CD)
About 2 years ago not many had heard of this band then came last resort which connected with all teenagers looking for something different fed up with rnb and garage, now a year on the band has a massive popularity making them one of the most popular nu metal bands in the world along with limp bizkit and Linkin park
But nu-metal has begun to rust just like Britpop did.
So this new papa roach album finds them looking for directions and ideas and sometimes it works.
M-80 sounds like Dave Grohl is on the drums and is a perfect opener,
Life is a bullet wouldn't be out of place on infest expect there not much rapping but there's not much of a spark in the track it seems to linger on and on and then finishes and deals with a topic with teenagers can relate to but lyrically is simplistic. Time and Time Again is brilliant song about how life on the road is selfish and decadent, the song has the guitar going through a sampler until the brilliant chorus erupts, here the band dabble in electronics to create atmospheres that Linkin park have done quite brilliantly and this 1 has already become a live classic.
Walking on barbed wire finds the band trying to find a different sound but its just ends up boring and very average.
Decompression Period this song is the BEST on the album, it finds the band doing grunge but it sounds like papa roach and it is very moving track and Shaddix sings with real passion and the lyrics are on a higher level then anything else on the album
" I must confess I'm falling apart, breaking your heart, crying with you on the phone, were walking on thin ice and i hope it doesn't break" This song is truly amazing and make Papa Roach sound like they have achieved their goal in creating some new.
Born With Nothing, Die with Everything is another song where shaddix raps and is another boring track with the guitar sounding simplistic and annoying.
She Loves Me Not is if metallica went nu-metal and overall is a good track a very strong 3 and half minute single and finds the band promoting there new sound to good effect but sadly shaddix tries to rap again.
Singular Indestructible Droid is a song that stars of with an African or native American tribal chanting but then the song becomes different with shaddix singing about robots for some reason it would be good if they had used the electronics they used on Time And Time Again here to create atmospheres more, but then tribal chanting and a topic so stupid make it sound like a tool wannabe.
Black Clouds is a track that sees Papa Roach experimenting with new ideas such as shaddix lyrics which have a more poetic quality about them with the use of imagery working well,
"And tears fall just like rain and pain strikes just like lighting" the bass rumbles throughout the song, and the guitar seems to be 3rd to the bass and shaddix's voices a very good song.
Code of Energy is a stagnant song, which gains life in the chorus but then dies again
The title track is one that could easily fit on a tool album the use of "shock" Acoustic guitar is very good, and when the good old electric guitar kicks in its is very effective,
Gouge Away is a very good pixes cover suprisnly
Overall this an album that finds Papa Roach trying to find a new sound so that they don't die when nu-metal after shock comes and it works in someplaces quite britanly but in some places seems lost and confused, this band is not going to fade away if they work on the good points on this album and with Shaddix ever improving his song writing skills on this album i would bet that Papa Roach will still be here in 5 years time just like Ash survived the Britpop/Indie backlash.
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4.0 out of 5 stars THE ANGER MANAGEMENT CONTROL IS NEEDED NOW!!!, 25 Jan 2004
This review is from: Lovehatetragedy (Audio CD)
When Infest came out in 2000, the radio waves were filled by one song called Last Resort, and Papa Roach had broke the mainstream and made a must-have metal album, selling over a million albums, going platinum.
So the problem from there, was how were they ever going to follow on from that height of success, and the answer lies on Infest's successor "Lovehatetragedy". Everything that made Infest a huge breakthrough can be found right here, the trade mark down tuned guitars and Coby's (he now goes as his birth name Jacoby Shaddix)anger management screaming particularly on the bloody death march of "Singular Indestructible Droid" and the closing of "Time and Time Again".
The main fault here is that this album suffers from sequelitis, many of the songs here could be fit on Infest, with "She Loves Me Not" being "Last Resort" part 2. But all the screw-ups stop there, for what they have made is a highly enjoyable record, guaranteed to make the listener bounce his head to he experiences whiplash.
Witness the punch-line "I'm in love with too many things/ and i hate everything" on the dark self loathing tune of "Life Is A Bullet" and the finding of inner love on the moving heartbreak of the title track.
The standout track has to be "Decompression Period", a ode to the relationship between Jacoby and his wife whilst he is out on the road thinking about the rough times they had.
It may not have the instant hit factor of its predecessor, but who cares when it will fit perfectly in your collection.
THE ANGER MANAGEMENT CONTROL IS NEEDED NOW!!!
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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars CAUGHT BETWEEN TWO STOOLS...., 22 Nov 2008
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Adam Jackson "Symphonic Metal Fan" (Stoke On Trent , England) - See all my reviews
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This review is from: LOVEHATETRAGEDY (Audio CD)
I have time for this act, I think it's good the way that they are attempting a sound akin to 80's Hard Rock/Metal ala Motley Crue, yet allied to modern sensibilities & production.
However, this is a dissapointing release living up to it's mediocre reputation. I'm generous in awarding 3 stars as the musicianship & production are of a decent standard BUT it's the songwriting that really lets the album down. It's average at best, with little in the way of memorable riffs, hooks or tunes.
The first release, Infest, was one of the better courses of Nu Metal served. However this seems to fall into a bit of a no mans land between that early aggression & freshness and the later, much improved songwriting of Getting Away With Murder and The Paramour Sessions. It's just, well, boring! It is regarded as a low point - hell, there aren't even any Maiden style harmonies to save this!! True, there is some decent bass, and the odd, decent tune but it's all filler really. Already the Rap and samples/turntables are beginning to diminish but possibly the band were not ready to evolve??
What I would say is buy the 2 x aforementioned later albums, and (although a bit dated & lyrically iffy) the debut Infest. Skip this as it really is a forgettable album, that sounds like a band treading water.
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4.0 out of 5 stars Nice followup, 24 Oct 2004
This review is from: LOVEHATETRAGEDY (Audio CD)
They hit back with more maturity, but equally enjoyable sounds and words for the upsets of life. As it doesn't differ too much from the first it can be considered a little dull but I enjoy playing it every now and then.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Bold, 19 Jun 2002
This review is from: Lovehatetragedy (Audio CD)
Papa roach have always been distinct, they have always used there anger as a major subject matter in there music, and it is back in the form of lovehatetragedy. This album is quite different from the last, infest. there is alot less of jacoby's (coby)'freestyling', this has now been replaced with a new more melodic man. which is nice to see but the main change is that it all seems alot darker than the first, its a great improvement. If you are expecting the same sort of thing as the great infest, you will not find it on this.
Well done papa roach!
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4.0 out of 5 stars Wow..., 20 Jun 2002
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This review is from: Lovehatetragedy (Audio CD)
This album wipes the floor with Infest. I wasn't a big fan of them while Infest was out, but then I heard this album I noticed how much they had changed. If you didn't like She Loves Me Not, don't worry, as it's probably the weakest song on the album. Having said that, the rest of the songs are damn good, but there are parts to them which could be improved. And also the necessity that Jacoby has for shouting is interesting.
Hopefully their next album will wipe out all the small flaws that they had, but till then feast on some wicked ROCK...
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4.0 out of 5 stars Ok but not great, 7 July 2002
This review is from: Lovehatetragedy (Audio CD)
Well ok, infest was a good album worthy of 5 stars but it got repeative and dull after a while, this album is not as repeative as infest but also isn't as catchy some of the songs take 3 listens just to get into. The music quality is also toned down a little. But these songs are written and sung with alot more emotion than on the last album. Alot of songs people can connect to esspecially if going through a bad time and being able to connect to an album is what makes it good.
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4.0 out of 5 stars Getting Angry..., 4 May 2003
This review is from: Lovehatetragedy (Audio CD)
You can easily tell from this album that Papa Roach have taken out their anger on the lyrics. Alot heavier than the first album - Infest - and absolutly great. This band have many great things ahead of them so watch out for future albums. Although I personnally like the Infest album better, this is a must for all Nu-Metal CD collections and a must if you even mildly like Papa Roach.
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3 of 4 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Brilliant CD, Well Worth The Money, 17 Jun 2002
This review is from: LOVEHATETRAGEDY (Audio CD)
Papa Roach are back with a brand new album! Fans of Papa Roach that liked the first album will defiantly love this brand new album!!! With the talents of lead singer Coby Dick, who apparently has now changed his name to Jacoby Shaddix, and bleached his hair, go figure, this album has some great songs! The song 'She Loves Me Not', which you may have heard already, generally reflects the feel of the whole album. I would greatly recommend this album to anyone and everyone! Thanks For Listening!!!
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