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4.0 out of 5 stars Batman Forever: Riddle me this, riddle me that, what has happened to the big black bat?
After the supremely dark and atmospheric films with Tim Burton at the helm, the studios decided to try and go for a younger audience and hired director Joel Schumacher to helm the third film. The tone is lighter from the outset, though with Burton's hand still on the tiller in the form of producer it manages to reign it in a bit and gives a film that is the right mix of...
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3.0 out of 5 stars A different direction brings differing results.
Batman takes on a new side kick as he fights to keep Gotham City out of the clutches of Two-Face and The Riddler.

"No thanks, I'll get drive-thru"

Thus these be the first words out of Val Kilmer's incarnation of Batman and thus setting the standard for what Joel Schumacher's two Batman movies would be like. Gone is the dark undertone from Tim...
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3.0 out of 5 stars A different direction brings differing results., 24 Aug 2014
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Spike Owen "John Rouse Merriott Chard" (Birmingham, England.) - See all my reviews
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This review is from: Batman Forever [DVD] [1995] (DVD)
Batman takes on a new side kick as he fights to keep Gotham City out of the clutches of Two-Face and The Riddler.

"No thanks, I'll get drive-thru"

Thus these be the first words out of Val Kilmer's incarnation of Batman and thus setting the standard for what Joel Schumacher's two Batman movies would be like. Gone is the dark undertone from Tim Burton's visions, and the tight action sequences that marked Burton's debut out as a genuine genre piece of work, in their place comes sexy campery and ropey action set pieces. The casting of both Val Kilmer as Batman and Chris O'Donnell as Robin is a big mistake, Kilmer easily being the most boring actor to don the suit out of all of them, whilst O'Donnell simply can't act outside of Robin's cartoonery bravado. Nicole Kidman looks positively gorgeous as Chase Meridian, but that's all that is brought to the party, it's a waste of the very talented Kidman's ability and a waste of the audience's time.

It's not all bad though, a comic book adaptation is only as good as its villains, and here we get a perfectly cast Jim Carrey as The Riddler, and a wildly over the top Tommy Lee Jones as Two-Face. Carrey steals every scene he is in, it's almost too much, but as maniacal and exuberant as it is, it is the film's highlight and actually the film's saving grace (Tommy Lee Jones was reportedly unhappy from having his thunder stolen in the movie by Carrey). The script does work enough to make the story accessible to all ages, and there are enough crash bangs and wallops to entertain in that brain left at the door kind of way.

This was the biggest hit of 1995, so the paying public lapped it up and paved the way for another Schumacher film in the franchise, but with all that star power wasted, and nipples on the rubber suits, it's hard to see now why it was so popular back then. 5/10
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2.0 out of 5 stars Batman Won't Last Forever With This Poor Third Entry, 7 Oct 2013
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Timelord-007 (The Eccentric Wanderer) - See all my reviews
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Positive.
Opening sequence is well filmed & exciting a pity the rest of the movie doesn't follow suit.
The fight scenes have had the previous cuts wavered & reinstated in this dvd/Blu ray version.

Negitive.
Jim Carrey constant OTT antics as The Riddler completely ruining the movie with his madness, Joel Schumacher should've reigned him in.
Tommy Lee Jones doesn't fair much better as good as a actor he is he's wasted as Two-Face in this portrayal as he could've played this with a more serious edge.
Val Kilmer not to bad as Bruce Wayne but doesn't terrify as Batman.

Quality.
The Blu ray has a clear sharp transfer & superb sound, No loading problems.

Trivia.
1)Robin Williams was Warners first choice to play The Riddler.
2)On set tensions between Jim Carrey & Tommy Lee Jones annoyed Joel Schumacher so much he swore never to work with both actor's again but directed Jim Carrey in The Number 23.
3)Val Kilmers Batsuit was so heavy he lost 5lb in the movies opening fight scene alone.
4)Christian Bale autioned for Robin & would go on to play Batman in Christopher Nolans Dark Knight Trilogy.
5)On set tensions mounted between Val Kilmer & director Joel Schumacher claiming Val Kilmer difficult to work with.
6)Nicole Kidman was previously considered for Catwoman.
7)First apperance of Arkham Asylum.
8)The Robin costume weighed 41 lbs.
9)Michael Keaton was rumoured to want $15 million dollar's & a share of the movies profits to return as Batman for a third time, But didn't like were director Joel Schumacher was taking the franchise & left the project.
10)Tommy Lee Jones replaces Billy Dee Williams as Harvey(Two Face)Dent in this movie.

Timelord Thoughts.
Michael Keaton I must admit I was upset when I heard he wasn't returning as Batman but after viewing this movie I can see why as without director Tim Burton's who's a eccentric genius but this movie's directed by Joel(I cocked up the Batman franchise)Schumacher.

The Opening sequence is the movies best part as the set up & fight scenes are well choreographed especially now there the harder cut version in this version, Extra headbutt & kicks, Moving to the climatic helicopter chase which is well directed but after that dont expect anything standout in the rest of the movie.

Val Kilmer does his best but doesn't seem threatening as Batman adding no threat or danger to the character although as Bruce Wayne he does seem better suited.

Tommy Lee Jones is a fine actor but he plays the role of Harvey Two-Face Dent very campy instead as scary a wasted opportunity of a good actor here.

Now Mr Jim Carrey, Hmmmmm, Jim Carrey what can i say?, He's awful!!!, He's so OTT that he's quite overbearing with his madness & lunacy that makes my head spin, His overacting hammy performance is appalling, Why didn't Director Joel Schumacher reign him in?

This awful portrayal of The Riddler completely destroys any credibility to the movie, Jim Carreys anitics make this film seem like a pantomime than a Batman film as he's just daft & stupid becoming very annoying quickly in the part.

Nicole Kidmans ok as the love interest & psychiatrist Doctor Chase Meridian who's interested in Batmans psyche but falls also for Bruce Wayne it's the usual I love mysterious dark brooding characters relationship.

Chris ,O,Donnell is passable as Dick Grayson & at least his origin story is done reasonable justice & brings some much needed new blood into the movie.

The only other good things about the movie is Michael Gough as Alfred who brings such warmth to the character & the backstory to Bruce Wayne's past focusing on the aftermath of Master Bruce losing his parents.

I would've liked this part of the movie fleshed out a little more as there some emotional depth to the young Bruce Wayne character that we haven't seen before which eventually defines Bruce to becoming Batman & this movie is called Batman Forever not The Jim Carrey Show.

The thin plot sees Riddler & Two-Face team up as The Riddler invents a machine to absorb peoples minds into his own & when they trick Bruce into the machine they see a image of a Bat knowing then he's Batman, It's that simple.

Bruce Wayne takes Dick Grayson in after his family is killed by Two-Face & Dick eventually discovers the Batcave & Bruce's secret that he's Batman.

Bruce decides to give up being Batman for some strange poorly written scene as he doesn't want Dick Grayson going down the same path he did consuming his life with darkness, Who wrote this incoherent nonsense?

This part of the story needed a lot more fleshing out, Wayne Manor is then attacked by Riddler & Two-Face destroying the Batcave Bruce once again becomes Batman using a new prototype Batsuit.

Dick eventually takes up the mantle becoming Robin aiding Batman in his fight against crime in Gotham City.

The other action scenes are ok the Batmobile chase should've been more tense & better edited, The other fight scenes at the ball should've been harder edged & the final confrontion is poor as we have the Batwing & Batboat that dont do anything at all so what's the point in including them in the movie.

There are no fight scenes for Batman in this final battle just a badly staged punch up with Robin & Two-Face.

The climax sees Batman throws a batarang at the Riddlers mind absorbing machine destroying it the Riddler has a mental breakdown & Batman rescues Robin & Doctor Chase & defeats Two-Face throwing a handful of coins when Two Face flips his coin resulting in him falling to his death below, A very weak ending.

This is nowhere near on par with Tim Burtons two Batman movie's or the outstanding Dark Knight Trilogy that followed a decade later but this movie does have a few decent moments it's just a shame those moments weren't expanded on instead of Jim Carreys awful face pulling & wild mad antics.

Timelord Rating.
4/10
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3.0 out of 5 stars Not exactly Batman Forever, 21 April 2007
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This review is from: Batman Forever [DVD] [1995] (DVD)
Well what can I say that hasn't been said already about this film. Okay,. seeing as Tim Burton is no longer directing the franchise (howevdr he produced this), it's not a bad effort and not the crap film. That crap film was the next one to follow: Batman and Robin.

Anyway this is where the franchise started going downhill though because Warner Bros wanted to make it appeal to younger children, they introduced some overly-campy humour. Most of it comes from the films two lead villains, Two-Face and the Riddler. Two-Face is meant to be a tragic and confused character with multiple personalities whereas the Riddler is meant to be an reclusive evil eccentric. Here they behave like naughty little schoolboys. The plotline is ok but a little cheesy.

The plot involves Batman/Bruce Wayne (Kilmer) struggle with his identities and seeking therapy from beautiful Dr Chase Meridian (Kidman)

As this occurs, three members of a family of acrobats are murdered by the newly escaped Two-Face, leaving their youngest son Dick Grayson (O' Donnell, who isn't too bad actually) to survive. As a result Bruce takes Dick in and Dick soon finds out who Bruce is. Whilst this is occurring, one of Bruce Waynes disgruntled ex-employees Edward Nygma is creating a successful bussiness of his own and has invented an invention that makes t.v. programmes become reality for the viewers whilst secretly sucking out bits about peoples private lives from their minds whilst they are in their hypnotic trance.

The acting is mixed. Val Kilmer makes a good Bruce Wayne but isn't too scary as Batman. Nicole Kidman is rather wooden. Chris O'Donnell is okay as the grieving and vengeful Dick Grayson. Jim Carrey is his usual manic self and Tommy Lee Jones is way too over the top as Two Face.

It's okay but not great. Still it could've been worse as we've all learned. ***
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4.0 out of 5 stars Batman Forever: Riddle me this, riddle me that, what has happened to the big black bat?, 14 Feb 2012
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Victor (Hull, England) - See all my reviews
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This review is from: Batman Forever [DVD] [1995] (DVD)
After the supremely dark and atmospheric films with Tim Burton at the helm, the studios decided to try and go for a younger audience and hired director Joel Schumacher to helm the third film. The tone is lighter from the outset, though with Burton's hand still on the tiller in the form of producer it manages to reign it in a bit and gives a film that is the right mix of dark and camp. Val Kilmer dons the cape for this outing, and he proves to be an able Wayne/Batman, here mentoring young Dick Grayson and trying to prevent him following the same dark path. He manages to bring across all the facets of the character very well. Tommy Lee Jones has gleeful manic fun as Two-Face, the ultimate split personality. He's a bit camp and schoolboyish at times, but it's all good fun. Jim Carrey almost steals the show as the Riddler, in a role that was just perfect for his brand of OTT mannerisms. With a host of great one liners and some good ideas, this is a decent film, and probably the most entertaining of the series. It's not as dark as the first two to be sure, but it does what it sets out to do effectively and delivers a couple of hours solid entertainment. I kind of prefer the darker tone of the first film, but that's just a matter of taste. 4 stars.
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1.0 out of 5 stars kitschy and mixed up regarding the time and technology (for example the cars are from the 40's 50's but the bad guys have modern, 8 Aug 2014
I'm a big Batman fan so don't get me wrong . But this film, unless you are 6 years old , is a total failure. I am not sure what Tim Burton was thinking on this one but he got it totally wrong.

The movie is so childish, kitschy and mixed up regarding the time and technology (for example the cars are from the 40's 50's but the bad guys have modern machine guns and lasers ) . And I think we can agree that Batman was always a character that was very well anchored in the reality of each period of time and what made him special was the state of the art technology he was using for that time.---- the only thing missing from this movie ??....maybe aliens
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4.0 out of 5 stars Joel Schumacher's "lightened up" Batman gets the superhero treatment on DVD!, 7 Jan 2008
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D. Laurikietis "darkknight_uk" (North West England) - See all my reviews
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Right off the bat (believe it or not, no pun intended) I'd like to say that I'm awarding the DISC 4 stars. The film itself I would rate at a three (possibly 3 and a half).

Historically speaking Batman Forever appears to have dropped off the pop culture radar. While not quite as divisive as Batman Returns, as important as Batman, as popular as Batman Begins or as reviled as Batman and Robin the film is a mixed bag that is fairly and commendably scrutinized in this excellent SE offering from Warner Home Video.

After the dust settled following the release of Batman Returns, a film that retains a fiercely loyal fan base but profoundly upset the Mcfranchise mentality that surrounds most comic book films the consensus was that some changes were in order.

Tim Burton's darkly expressionistic tones were replaced by the larger than life pop arty aestheticism of Barbara Ling painted with Schumacher's now trade mark multi-coloured neon. Michael Keaton (who after umming and aahing about the possibility of donning the Bat Armour for the third time jumped ship after his initial costume fittings - perhaps he saw the nipples-) was replaced by the capable and affable Val Kilmer who gives a passable performance of a seasoned yet vulnerable and broody Batman. Rising star Chris O'Donnell joined the party as orphaned acrobat Dick Grayson and eventually Batman's sidekick Robin (the 25 year old "boy" wonder) and a motley crew of villains were introduced in the form of Jim Carrey's typically outrageous Riddle and Tommy Lee Jones' risible Two Face who, between them, dole out lashings of pantomime villainy.

While Batman Forever may lack the complexity of its predecessors it still functions perfectly well as a generic popcorn superhero romp serving up just enough psychology and emotion for us to invest in the characters while still flouting Schumacher's taste for gaudy spectacle with some (to this day) impressive set pieces and memorable action sequences.

As with the Special Editions of the previous two Batman films, picture and sound quality far surpass the previous vanilla discs and while I have not sampled the DTS track on any of the discs the 5.1 track does justice to Elliot Goldenthal's stirring score and the surround effects get a pretty good airing. Joel Schumacher's diverse palette (like it or loathe it) is rich and vibrant here and whatever your opinion of the change in direction of the franchise it is indisputable that this superhero pop-opera has never looked better. The cut of the film is also slightly different to that of the previous vanilla release with a few sequences extended here and there.
The commentary track is a pleasant mixture of fond reminiscences and interesting factual nuggets and to be fair Schumacher really comes across as a likeable character in his yak-track, justifying the decisions he made about "lightening up" the Batman franchise plausibly while explicitly stating his respect and admiration for what Tim Burton had done before him.

The Special Features disc does not disappoint and again I have to thank Warner Brothers for really putting the effort into making these Special Editions really special. The ongoing documentary Shadows Of The Bat is back with Part 5 : Reinventing a Hero which offers some tantalizing insights into the changeover from Burton to Schumacher and from Keaton to Kilmer with Val Kilmer being the only Batman actor of the film series to come back to do an interview. Again the documentary takes us through the whole process of production from inception to reaction and it is with some modesty that Schumacher relates how surprised he was that the film did as phenomenally well at the box office as it did.
A schmaltzy period promotional doc entitled "Riddle Me This, Why Is Batman Forever" hosted by Chris O'Donnell is also included on this disc. While it offers nothing that isn't covered in greater detail elsewhere on the disc it is still a wryly amusing addition.
The Batman Beyond documentaries are also present and as with the previous releases every element of the monster production is lovingly chronicled and peppered with talking head commentaries that vary in interest with the most fun to be had in the stunts, costumes and visual effects documentaries.
It is also worth mentioning that a "darker" director's cut of Batman Forever has been rumoured for a very long time amongst the fan community. Sadly this DVD boasts no such cut although the bonus disc does include a few deleted scenes which to be fair were right to be left on the cutting room floor but are certainly welcome additions to the disc expanding in places upon the psychology of Bruce Wayne, his relationship with Dick Grayson and his motivations for donning the bat armour.

While I have something of a love / hate relationship with Batman Forever this disc represents an entertaining and comprehensive diversion for all but the most puritanical Bat fan.
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3.0 out of 5 stars 10 years ago seems like Forever..., 26 Sep 2005
Divided amongst most Bat-Fans, this film was released in 1995, nearly 6 years after Tim Burtons original graced our screens. Many are quick to relegate this film to the "Campy, Crappy Schumacher Era", but upon closer inspection the film very nearly could have had the right balance of Burtons dark, haunting vision and the 'pow! wam! splat!' summer blockbuster status of this films follow-up, "Batman & Robin". The reason I say this is because during the countdown to its release, the film was apparently re-edited by studio executives in order to gain a much more popcorn-friendly feel to the piece. This meant cutting out entire sequences that would explain plot and in certain cases make the film alot daker. Thats why this release is so refreshing as we get to see a handful of material that was taken out nearly 10 years ago. Unfortunately, we have no directors cut, so it appears unlikely we will ever see the film in its original (glory?).. Also included on this release are several documentaries detailing production, and a Joel Schumacher commentary, which I'm sure many will agree is probably worth the price tag alone for both this film and "Batman and Robin", if only to play a game of 'how many times schumacher says "i'm sorry" in a commentary'..
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5.0 out of 5 stars Passable film, great extras, 8 Jun 2007
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Now, for those of you who have seen the film umpteen times, you all know the film is rather campy but still watchable. Watchable but mildly dissappointing I think is the best way to put it.

Bruce Wayne was portrayed just right but Batman wasn't scary, Robin was vengeful, Riddler was humourous but annoying at times and Two-Face was well just over the top unneccassarily. The plot got too rediculous and, in a way dare I say it, more so than Batman & Robin.

Ever since the films release fans have been gagging for the extra footage. I even heard that it wasn't on this two disc edition. Well I got this yesterday and, I don't know if they put them on the region 1 versions, but surprise I had the deleted scenes in the package as well!

Now, it is true what rumours have said all along in that if the scenes had been left in the finished product that it would've made it darker and more sinister. In fact it would've either got a 12A or 15.

The extra footage depicts an all new opening to the film with Two-Face's escape from Arkham Asylum, Batman running into the deeper depths of the Batcave and a host of other things.

Worthwhile.
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3.0 out of 5 stars Forever cliched, 31 Oct 2008
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Gotham City's crime fighter Batman (Kilmer) is in trouble as his past catches up with him in his nightmares. As he desperately tries to solve his past, villains Two Face and the Riddler cause havoc in the city.

Batman Forever has one of those openings that you either love or hate.

Two Face is causing trouble in Gotham and when we see Batman arrive in a typical hero shot, the tone for a hero driven film is set. Having never seen this film when it was first released, I am unable to comment on its reception and how it shaped the generation. Now with the wonderful darkness and mystery in Christopher Nolan's Batman Begins and Dark Knight there is a feeling of convention and normality in the superhero genre in Forever.

Filled with predictability and a normality that will have you turning away, Forever doesn't add much extra to the tone that was set by Tim Burton in the previous couple of films. The car, cave and other tools in the Batman's Arsenal were already set and are simply repeated here.

Despite the normality, there is still a sense of interest and excitement and hardcore fans won't be let down by the testament to the comics.

This third Batman film also has some great performances. Jim Carrey (The Truman Show) has created a wonderful villain in the Riddler. Filled with madness and creativity, the Riddler is more entertaining than the Mask and creates that wonderful charisma that very few can pull off and plaudits must be aimed at Carrey who is the star of the show. Tommy Lee Jones' portrayal as Two Face is disappointing when juxtaposed next to Carrey's Riddler. Harvey Dent / Two Face feels very ordinary, with the coin flipping and the silly screams if Batman foils him makes him foolish and a lesser figure because of it. To be fair the writing wasn't the best for Two face, as it was more focused on cementing the background for The Riddler. The two work well together and create some dramatic and exciting action sequences and is worth the wait come the end of the film.

There is plenty of hero clichés thrown in for Kilmer's Batman, such as the overcoming of difficulties, just in time moments and cheesy lines.

Give Kilmer praise for outshining Keaton as his portrayal of the crime fighter is dark but also more relaxed and enjoyable. Kidman makes an intriguing protagonist but Chris O'Donnell's Robin feels like the ultimate action cliché.

Despite the terrible use of hero clichés, Carrey and Kilmer make the film ultimately light hearted and enjoyable in good action fantasy.

6.5/10
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3.0 out of 5 stars Not aged well, 14 July 2014
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Yes it's camp and yes it's not as good as Tim Burton's films but it's not til you watch the Nolan trilogy and then go back you see how badly it's aged , Jim Carey's riddler is different and over the top and Two face is a bit to Jokeresq which is a shame. But it's good fun not to be taken seriously.
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