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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Really great course if you start at the right point with it
I'm currently half way through Kallimni 'Arabi Mazboot working without a teacher, and I'm really pleased with it. Every so often there's something I have to clarify with an Arabic speaking friend (grammar exercises mostly, and sometimes I wish that all the vocab in the book was in the dictionary in the back - it'd really help) but on the whole this is a great book, which...
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2.0 out of 5 stars You may discover too late that the course needs a teacher!
Only after buying this book together with the whole series I discovered that YOU CAN MAKE LITTLE USE OF IT WITHOUT A TEACHER. This is stated by the author in the book itself, but when you have the book in your hands it's already too late. Why this is not clearly indicated by AMAZON in the book presentation?
Published on 5 Feb 2010 by Carlo Barbieri


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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Really great course if you start at the right point with it, 28 Oct 2010
This review is from: Kallimni 'arabi: An Intermediate Course in Spoken Egyptian Arabic (Paperback)
I'm currently half way through Kallimni 'Arabi Mazboot working without a teacher, and I'm really pleased with it. Every so often there's something I have to clarify with an Arabic speaking friend (grammar exercises mostly, and sometimes I wish that all the vocab in the book was in the dictionary in the back - it'd really help) but on the whole this is a great book, which recycles vocabulary and grammar in a very well structured, incremental way through well designed dialogues (using different accents, which is a bonus). For my money, this is by far the best Egyptian Arabic course because it introduces grammar and vocab in context, using and then reusing it in increasingly complex situations, rather than the using old style approach of giving enormous lists of vocab and overly-complex grammar explanations followed by random out of context exercises (as if knowing a rule in theory would somehow magically unlock the ability to communicate in a language - e.g. the dreadful 'Kullu Tamam'). I've tried out all the Egyptian Arabic textbooks I can get my hands on and so far this is the most up to date and intuitive in terms of teaching method at this level and the only one that is part of a complete course of books. I can't wait to get to the next book (and then I'm going to try the 'Arabi Liblib series, which I've got on preorder for when it comes out... really hoping it's going to help fill in the gap after the end of the Kallimni 'Arabi series)

P.S. If anyone's just starting out Egyptian Arabic from scratch without a teacher and trying to work out which books to go for, I can recommend combining the brilliant 'Colloquial Arabic of Egypt' by Jane Wightwick and Mahmoud Gaafar with the audio-based 'Pimsleur Egyptian Arabic' course. 'Colloquial Arabic of Egypt' explained all the basics (of grammar particularly) extremely clearly and in English script (so I could tackle the extra barrier of learning a new script once I'd got my communicative confidence up and running - worked really well) while the Pimsleur Egyptian Arabic course got me speaking and gave me a feel for the language and pronunciation that was hard to get in any other way as a beginner. NB Pimsleur also has a very clever way of teaching reading the script which is second to none and v. quick - this was how I learned and I hardly noticed it. When I wanted to learn to write I used 'Mastering Arabic Script' by Jane Wightwick, which gave loads of space for practice etc. Switching over to the Kallimni 'Arabi course at this stage was great for me. Everybody's different but hope this is helpful.

P.P.S. I started out from scratch learning Egyptian Arabic with no basis in MSA or any other dialect and without reading or writing a word of Arabic - this approach can definitely work if you find the right beginners book in English script - which for me was 'Colloquial Arabic of Egypt' - if there had only been 'Kullu Tamam' filling this gap, I don't think I would have got past the first stage. I'm just starting on MSA now and have been able to join an intermediate MSA class with no problem at all - doing it this way round makes a lot of sense to me because you start as a beginner with a language you can actually use in the street.
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2 of 2 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Amazing Book, 3 Aug 2008
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Gerard Wilkie (West Lothian Great Britain) - See all my reviews
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This review is from: Kallimni 'arabi: An Intermediate Course in Spoken Egyptian Arabic (Paperback)
I have studied Arabic for over 30 years , and wanted to learn the Egyptian dialect for a recent vist there , so this book was ideal. As it is entirely in Arabic , I would not recommend it for a novice , but it met my requirements. Before doing this book , I would recommend fully studying Teach Yourself Arabic , and perhaps the Pimsleur audio course in Egyptian Arabic . This will give you confidence in reading and listening to Modern Standard Arabic. The language the book teaches is the everyday speech of Egypt and the accompanying CD is superb, so having completed it
I managed to actually sound like I had an Egyptian accent when I went there. The book can be tough going , but it all depends on the level of your MSA , and really I would not recommend learning dialect until you fully master the standard language. I have read many books on Arabic , and if you are already fluent , then this is certainly the best book on the market to learning a dialect.
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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
2.0 out of 5 stars You may discover too late that the course needs a teacher!, 5 Feb 2010
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Carlo Barbieri (Italy) - See all my reviews
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This review is from: Kallimni 'arabi: An Intermediate Course in Spoken Egyptian Arabic (Paperback)
Only after buying this book together with the whole series I discovered that YOU CAN MAKE LITTLE USE OF IT WITHOUT A TEACHER. This is stated by the author in the book itself, but when you have the book in your hands it's already too late. Why this is not clearly indicated by AMAZON in the book presentation?
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1.0 out of 5 stars Misleading Amazon Description - No English guidance and useless without a teacher!, 2 Dec 2013
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T. arafa "taz" (uk) - See all my reviews
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This review is from: Kallimni 'arabi: An Intermediate Course in Spoken Egyptian Arabic (Paperback)
Cannot quite believe this is being touted as a learning tool given that there are no English instructions included. Yes it is intermediate level but some English guidance is still required to guide students through it - THERE IS NO ENGLISH IN THE BOOK OR THE AUDIO CD! Worse still, nowhere does it say this, either in the book or on Amazon. Am just about to post it back and get a refund.

I did 30 hours using Pimsleurs which is a fantastic and hoped this would be a great follow-on for the next level. I couldn't have been more wrong. Extremely disappointed.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Best of of it's type, 25 Aug 2009
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G. S. Clarke "gsc" (Derbyshire) - See all my reviews
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This review is from: Kallimni 'arabi: An Intermediate Course in Spoken Egyptian Arabic (Paperback)
A previous reviewer slated this book and I can understand that - if you are not prepared to learn to read and write in script. However they were quite wrong saying it is a book for teachers only. It is aimed at students but clearly is best used in a class where you have some guidance.

That said - I am doing mine at home alone but there is plenty of help in forums and so on.

I have already done both Michel Thomas (good for understanding) and Pimsleur (good for talking) audio courses and found this a great place to continue albeit a somewhat daunting task having to totally embrace reading and writing in script.

It is however untrue that there is no transliteration in the series. The place to start is Kallini Arabi Bishweesh where the earlier work is repeated in transliteration and this is gradually withdrawn as the book goes on.

It will always be painfully slow for someone new to script but if you intend to do it, it's a good way to get immersed in it.

For the feint hearted, Kullu Tamam teaches a similar format but is transliterated. Might a good idea to dip into both if you find it a bit heavy going till you can read script reasonably well.

I have bought all 5 in the series and think they are a great investment for those who are seriously wishing to learn.

If anyone is unsure, feel free to email me.
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