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5.0 out of 5 stars SUFFER THE LITTLE CHILDREN?
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Another excellent investigation by David Yallop and I must say that this book fairly and squarely puts the onus of the continuing sexual abuse by clerics of ALL ranks, Cardinals, Bishops, Nuns, fairly and squarely at the door of the Vatican! Surely the one in charge, obviously the Pope, should be held to account? Unfortunately, who...
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3.0 out of 5 stars Astonishing & shocking
Astonishing revelations & disgusting how corrupt the church is, but to be fair its quite a hard read, but worth trying.
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5.0 out of 5 stars SUFFER THE LITTLE CHILDREN?, 30 April 2011
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Mrs. Judith Lugg "Judith Lugg" (Wolverhampton, England) - See all my reviews
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VERY HIGHLY RECOMMENDED
Another excellent investigation by David Yallop and I must say that this book fairly and squarely puts the onus of the continuing sexual abuse by clerics of ALL ranks, Cardinals, Bishops, Nuns, fairly and squarely at the door of the Vatican! Surely the one in charge, obviously the Pope, should be held to account? Unfortunately, who actually is there to do this, as the Catholic Church in most cases appears to be above the law and certainly feels itself to be so?

In fact it does appear that this is exactly what several hundred thousand former members of the Roman Catholic Church have thought and shown in by leaving the Church in droves, which in fact now, according to the current Pope, Benedict, is facing a crisis of faith with falling numbers of members and the recruitment of new priests.

Is it any wonder, you ask yourself, because if you read this book, you will see exactly WHAT the problem is? The previous Pope, John Paul described sexual abuse by clerics as purely an American Problem.; very strange this as at least one of his best friends, definitely NOT operating in America was a serial abuser and for whom he covered up. The current Pope, another of John Paul's best friends, sees it as an Irish problem!

In any event, apparently, the hierarchy at the Vatican have now given up on Benedict, awaiting his demise, presumably because he is either recalcitrant , incompetent or both, no doubt to carry one in some form or another more of its lies, obfuscations and deliberate procrastinations. Procrastination is said to be the thief of time - in this case it is no less than the thief of childhood innocence, well-being and the living of a happy life for untold numbers of the unheard victims, many of whom are now dead along with their abusers.

Generally the Vatican's stock excuse is that it would `damage the image of Mother Church or embarrass the Pope' if any the hundreds of thousands of cases were to be brought into the light of day. What price the suffering of the victims, many of them little children, here?

America has managed to bring many cases to Court and has brought many of the Diocesan finances to bankruptcy; Ireland has gone some way to trying to do the same.

The problem is worldwide in the Catholic Church and it does make one wonder if people who are that way inclined deliberately join as clerics to carry out their nefarious doings because, apparently, the vetting procedures on joining leave much to be desired and it is easy to slip through the net, that is, if there IS a net in existence.

Jesus Christ defined it precisely, in Matthew, Chapter 18 when he told the Disciples that it would be better that anyone who harmed a little child should have a millstone tied around his neck and be thrown into the sea.

Very strange then, isn't it, that the Roman Catholic Church STILL actually purports to be Christ's representative on earth?

MAY 2012 - ADDENDUM TO MY REVIEW:

Have just seen TV programme on Child Sex Abuse by Roman Catholic Priests in Ireland on BBC 2 and am even more disgusted now than when I read David Yallop's excellent book. I am so tremendously sorry for these victims, some of whom, grown men now, took part in the programme. In the main they have been scarred for life.

The Catholic Church has virtually alienated all decent faithful people in Ireland through its actions and no wonder - the victims were treated as pariahs when it should have been the abusing clerics. The Church is still in denial over many aspects of this dispicable chain of events.

I also note that Ireland has closed its Embassy with the Vatican - no surprise there I think but it does speak volumes, Southern Ireland having been such a Catholic dominated society until relatively recently. Wonder what the Pope thinks??
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5.0 out of 5 stars Beyond Belief is history, 22 Jan 2011
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You won't find in Church history books what you will find in this book. This is what makes members of religious orders who claim to be the so called historians of the Church frauds by omission. They blot out those things that don't fit their fascist convictions.

Much of the true history of the modern Church can be found in Yallop's work including Beyond Belief and The Power and the Glory. Get them both. Yallop is generally perceived as a best-selling author. Yet, he is far more than just that--one of the great historians of the Roman Catholic Church. Concerning Yallop's investigation into the death of the 33-day Pope, the Manhattan/Gregoire coalition is a much clearer investigation as to what actually happened.

In 1988, Avro Manhattan wrote `The Dollar and the Vatican' in which he presents the hypothesis: The conspiracy that planned the Great Vatican Bank Scandal was the same conspiracy that plotted the Murder of John Paul I. Unfortunately, Manhattan died before tribunal and other investigations into the surreptitious goings-on in the Vatican 1978-1981 proved his case. Manhattan wrote the all-time Vatican-bestseller The Vatican and World Politics.

In 2013, Lucien Gregoire wrote The Vatican Murders: The Life and Death of John Paul I. Employing a barrage of testimony of the courts together with medical and criminology advancements not available to Yallop, Manhattan and others when they wrote their books--Gregoire proves Avro Manhattan's thesis: The conspiracy that planned the Great Vatican Bank Scandal was the same conspiracy that plotted the Murder of John Paul I.
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5.0 out of 5 stars It really is " Beyond Belief ", 11 Nov 2011
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This book should be made compulsive reading in every Catholic church,school,colleage in fact any place where the Catholic religion is taught or shared.

I've have no idea if there is a heaven,but if there is then there also must be a hell and that is where Ratzinger and his cover up staff will be heading.

More power to David Yallop and his pen.

This book simply has to be read in the simple hope that crimes like this never ever happen again but as we are dealing with one of the biggest cover ups the world has ever seen I'm afraid its a big ask.

Buy this book now !!!!!
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5.0 out of 5 stars The Worst Crimes in the World, 11 Aug 2014
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The worst crimes in the world are those committed against children. And the worst of those are sex crimes. In his book 'Beyond Belief' David Yallop documents many of these crimes. The dedication is 'For the victims. Past , present and future.' In the preface written in August 2010 David has written 'What follows will in parts not make for easy reading. Neither did it make for easy research and writing.' He is talking about the sexual activity of priests in the Roman Catholic Church with the little boys who were altar boys and choir boys and also in some cases with women who were members of the congregation.

In his book 'In God's Name' David discussed many of the problems Albino Luciano faced when he became Pope: International Banking, Freemasonry the Mafia and Sexual Activity by priests with children and adults who were members of their congregation. In this book he deals with just the one subject Child Abuse. Of course this crime does not apply solely to priests, sadly it is crime committed by other sectors of society as well.

The tragedy of course is that the priests have dedicated their lives to God, are his representatives in the community and have also dedicated themselves to celibacy. I was brought up in the Church of England where the clergy were married men with families and therefore wonder why celibacy is deemed necessary for priests in the Catholic Church. This book shows that in a great number of cases although the priest has dedicated his life to God and celibacy he still lives in a human body and that body has a need for sex. The nearest people available are the child officers of the church, the altar boys and choir boys. The priest is their superior, therefore they do what he tells them. They feel guilt doing what they know is a wrong thing to do in God's house and out of it, and asking for Absolution for the sin they know they have committed the abusing priest has often offered to give them Absolution for the crime he has committed with them.

There are also stories here of dreadful physical violence perpetrated on children. David, as he always does, has researched diligently and meticulously and has written clearly and objectively. Dreadful stories where victims have had to take their cases into the Justice System, and have been given money as compensation - as if anything could compensate for these dreadful wrongs. Here is a sentence towards the end of the book 'Many of the sexually abusive priests are treated with injections of Depo-Provera, a drug frequently prescribed as a female contraceptive.'

The very last sentence is from St. Matthew 18 verse 6 'But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.'

The book is called 'Beyond Belief' by David Yallop. No, it is not easy reading but it is necessary that it was written.
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5.0 out of 5 stars The Roman Catholic Church should be dissolved, abolished, banned from all decent societies., 21 July 2014
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Anyone who has read 'In God's name' will want to read this, a sequel, dealing with the time of the Pontiff Karol Wojtyla, Pope John Paul II. And when you have, you are bound to wonder, as I do, how the Roman Catholic Church can justify its very existence after centuries of abuse of, plainly millions of young people, most of them boys, continuing right up to the present day and uniformly denying the entire problem, protecting the aberrant priests and refusing to give any kind of closure or help to the victims. Until, pressed, recently, by the courts and the public to a point where denials are simply ridiculous. If there ever was an argument against the Catholic Church this is it! How could it be right for an organisation that has Jesus Christ as its model and Godhead with his principles stated in Matthew in the beatitudes, of disinterested love (agape) and decency, to collect billions from the faithful and then have to pay out billions to the victims of child sex abuse because of the actions of its own priests? $6 billion in the US since 1983, $2billion in Ireland and at least another $2 billion in the rest of the world? (figures on Preface p1). Nor do these seem inflated from what we know from other sources.
The difficulties of all the churches for centuries has been in combatting the core beliefs in the face of a better educated population increasingly aware of the advances of science. Because of the Child Abuse Scandal, Dawkins has won by a walk over. The idea that religion is unacceptable in the modern world is now a widespread belief. Why would anyone bother any more arguing with theologians when the practice of Christianity has been shown to be dangerously detrimental to most of the people for whom it is supposed to exist and enhance the lives thereof? Children's lives scarred, their very spirituality, the one thing that their parents expected to be enhanced, twisted and turned to abomination. Some actually committing suicide because of the abuse; many others, their adult lives ruined! And yet CONTINUALLY, the church authorities from the Pope down have denied any wrongdoing! Plainly, the Roman Catholic Church has no concern with the truth, all it cares about is itself. That is a denial of everything Christ stood for. It is OBSCENE!
This book and the previous one which shows that the previous Pope (Albino Luciani) Pope Paul I, because he meant to clear up the corruption in the Catholic Church, especially in the Vatican, was murdered by the Curia before he could do so, are invaluable. An organisation like that which can so blatantly murder its elected head and then try to cover its traces with moves a child could see through, ought not to be allowed to exist. That it purports to be a fountain of goodness is outrageous! Its assets should be sold and shared among the poor. Then, at last, they would inherit the earth. The hierarchy of the Vatican and all its outlying dioceses the world over have nothing more than a gravy train in mind: rich pickings and a life of luxury while the poor pay for them out of shallow pockets and their children are abused by them.
Yallop's books are convincing and powerful testimonies. That the Churches deny their findings is ludicrous. The cases already dealt with and the admissions already achieved tell us how it is.
These are wonderful, very accessible books everyone should read and you won't be the same after doing so. As it says on page 1 of the Preface: 'As of now, many people across the world would not allow an unaccompanied child to enter a Roman Catholic Church.'
But when you have read them you easily see that the adults should not go there either.
How awful, that Basil Hume, that much admired, much idolised cardinal, [holier than most] should have been headmaster at Ampleforth when many cases of child abuse therein were covered up by him.
The church's technique in almost every case, has been to send the offending priest to some other parish there to behave as badly as before without any warning to its parents. Once, at a summer school on classics in a Durham College, I came across a monk from Ampleforth who had been sent to do a Phd at Oxford, polishing up his Greek. Why? I asked him. He seemed very anxious. We discussed many things and went round the Cathedral at my wish, though he could advance my knowledge little. I found out a few months later when his name appeared in the newspapers. He had become a monk there because of his interest in children. And he had abused them. That was why he had been shunted out of the school for a few years.
The uniform reaction of the Catholic Church to criticism in the past has been outright and blatant lying. Anyone who quarrels with the heading of this review on the basis that David Yallop's book is incorrect should be ignored and referred to Geoffrey Robertson QC "The Case of the Pope". This, by one of the nation's great lawyers, is an even more powerful argument than David Yallop's. Sex crimes against young children which have been ongoing for many decades with the full knowledge of the two previous popes among others, can be the reason for bringing charges of inhumanity against the popes. This may be the reason why, so suddenly and unusually, Ratzinger resigned as Pope: before he was brought in front of an international criminal court.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Fine study of a criminal organisation, 5 Mar 2012
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This extraordinary book reveals how the Roman Catholic Church covered up and facilitated countless crimes of child abuse.

But, as Yallop comments, "The Vatican that for centuries has told people on pain of eternal damnation how they should lead their sexual lives now demands that the clerical sexual abuses that have been revealed over the last thirty years should be forgiven and forgotten. Pope John Paul II, Cardinal Ratzinger and a great many other like-minded Princes of the Church are on public record claiming that it is the abusers who are the victims."

Former Oklahoma Governor Frank Keating wrote, after Cardinal Roger Mahony of Los Angeles forced him to resign as chair of a national panel whose brief was to investigate the sex abuse scandal, "our Church ... is not a criminal enterprise. It does not condone and cover up criminal activity. It does not follow a code of silence. ... To resist grand jury subpoenas, to suppress the names of offending clerics, to deny, to obfuscate, to explain away, this is the model of a criminal organisation, not my Church."

But his Church did condone and cover up criminal activity, it did follow a code of silence, it did resist grand jury subpoenas, it did suppress the names of offending clerics, it did deny, obfuscate, explain away. So didn't its actions prove it to be a criminal organisation?

The 2009 Murphy Report observed, "The Dublin Archdiocese's pre-occupations in dealing with cases of child sex abuse, at least until the mid 1990s, were the maintenance of secrecy, the avoidance of scandal, the protection of the reputation of the Church and the preservation of its assets. All other considerations, including the welfare of children and justice for victims, were subordinated to these priorities. The Archdiocese did not implement its own canon law rules and did its best to avoid any application of the law of the State."

During 2003 there were 60 complaints of sexual, physical and emotional abuse against the Catholic Church in England and Wales, but as of mid-2004 not one alleged abuser had been prosecuted.

Pope Pius V had declared in 1568 that sexual abusers `must be handed over to the secular authorities for punishment and if he is a cleric will be demoted from everything'. So the Church has gone backward since 1568.

However, sexual abuse is not just practised by Roman Catholic clerics. A 2004 study into the sexual abuse of women found that clerics from the Church of England, Methodists, Baptists and Presbyterians, as well as Roman Catholics, were also sexual predators. The report noted, "Approximately 50 per cent of the clergy involved in these particular cases are married men, which rather demolishes the proposition that celibacy is at the heart of the problem of clerical sexual abuse. It's not about celibacy, it is about abuse of power."
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5.0 out of 5 stars Ye shall know them by their fruits..., 13 July 2014
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This should be mandatory reading for every Catholic. God wants these very devout people in His kingdom, but they are being deceived. May the good Lord cause their eyes to be opened to the truth in His holy Word.
Jesus warned of deception in the last days. I pray that we all heed His warning and study to show ourselves approved unto God.
Believing in something, someone or a system because someone else, be they priest, minister or pope, told us to is no excuse. We are all individually accountable.
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5.0 out of 5 stars clerical child abuse, 3 Feb 2014
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5 stars for quality and research a must read for anyone concerned with this appalling crime
yallop writes a brilliant expose
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4.0 out of 5 stars Horrifying, 23 Sep 2013
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If you are a catholic, like me, reading this book will disturb you. Disturbing,not only because of the disgraceful abuse carried out by the sections of clergy but also because of the collusion of other clergy to keep the abuse "under wraps" leaving children at risk from these predators.

The church should hang its head in shame. Not surprising that many Catholics throughout the world have become disillusioned with their church.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Beyond belief, 25 Aug 2013
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Well written informative and thought provoking.Recommended reading for all those who are appalled that these crimes happened.The Catholic Church should hang its head in shame.
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