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4.0 out of 5 stars "Power corrupts. Absolute Power corrupts absolutely" All Phoenixes are monsters.
This volume reprints issues #0-12 of Avengers Vs. X-Men, written by all the big guns, and drawn by other big guns. It begins with the return to action of the Scarlet Witch and ends with the arrest of Cyclops for crimes against humanity. Nova crash-lands in New York bringing news of the approach of the Phoenix force, which leads the Avengers to try and gain access to X-Man...
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1.0 out of 5 stars Dumber than Lou Ferrigno's pants
Phoenix - the fiery and all-powerful being that possessed Jean Grey in the "Dark Phoenix Saga" - is returning to Earth because the "creative" directors at Marvel have run out of ideas and are desperately ransacking past, greater storylines for their new books. The vessel Phoenix is going to choose, everyone thinks, will be Hope, the first and only mutant...
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1.0 out of 5 stars Dumber than Lou Ferrigno's pants, 20 Dec 2012
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Phoenix - the fiery and all-powerful being that possessed Jean Grey in the "Dark Phoenix Saga" - is returning to Earth because the "creative" directors at Marvel have run out of ideas and are desperately ransacking past, greater storylines for their new books. The vessel Phoenix is going to choose, everyone thinks, will be Hope, the first and only mutant born after Scarlet Witch's "No More Mutants" curse. Captain America and co. remember the devastation brought about by Phoenix the last time it visited Earth and bonded with Jean Grey, so they are understandably terrified of this happening again. If Hope is to be the new Phoenix, she must die. But Cyclops and co. believe Phoenix's return will signal the rebirth of the mutant race and undo the damage caused by Scarlet Witch. If Hope is to be the new Phoenix, she must live. And so we have Avengers Vs. X-Men, a massive Royal Rumble of superheroes sparked by an argument about a being nobody fully understands and a possibility nobody knows will happen for sure.

I did actually find the first cycle of fighting exciting and thought that with the fighting out of the way so early, maybe this predictable scenario would take a different turn? However, that initial burst of interest was long eclipsed by the sheer banality of the rest of the story and unrelenting tedium of the endless fighting.

Superhero comics are more than just fighting but that's all this superhero book is: fight fight fight. And despite having a massive cast of characters, all of whom have decades of defined personalities, this book essentially wipes away all traces of them so they're all monotone dullards. Spider-man (in his brief appearances) doesn't crack jokes or say anything witty or interesting because all this fighting is all so serious. Iron Man is basically relegated to the side-lines to scientifically figure out how to beat Phoenix (by the way, where's Reed Richards?) so when he appears he's talking boring science crap; his charming, roguish personality is entirely absent.

Instead, arguably the two most boring characters in the Marvel U are given centre stage: Cyclops and Captain America. Cap is whiter than white bread and with his no-nonsense manner of speaking is about as interesting: he is practical, dull, and unimaginative, repeatedly yelling "Avengers Assemble!" way too many times. Cyclops has the personality of a brick. When he's not being told what to do by his girlfriend, he's whining about mutants being an endangered species for the billionth time, wittering on like a fussy hen and glumly looking into the middle distance. These have got to be the most tedious men to ever headline a superhero comic. Long before this book was over I wanted both of these dudes dead, never to return.

My edition was the mammoth 568 page hardback. After the Avengers Vs. X-Men #0-#12 main issue story arc comes the #1-#6 AVX issues which are just fights. At least with the main storyline there are respites from the fighting to attempt including some sorely needed elements like dialogue, ideas, character and plot development (despite none of these things being effectively pulled off); with AVX, it's just fighting. So we get some arbitrary fights with Iron Man Vs Magneto, Magik Vs Black Widow, Namor Vs Thing, and so on. These are fights that are supposed to be happening in the main story but were separate to keep that story from slowing down. It was with AVX that I realised why Marvel had asked a WWE wrestler to intro this book - these fights were the comic book equivalent of WWE wrestling: staged, colourful, and meaningless. (The wrestler is CM Punk who incorrectly calls his foreword to the book a "forward" - yep, that's the level of intelligence this book elicits).

Finishing off this book is Infinite Comics #1, #6 and #10. Infinite was created for the sole purpose of reading comics digitally on tablets, which is a great idea. Content-wise, these comics rehash the events already gone over in the main story arc but with added pages that don't improve the story. Consequently, like AVX, Infinite feels like an unnecessary add-on.

And speaking of unnecessary add-ons, you may be wondering what the "AR" boxes appearing on every other page in the book mean - "Augmented Reality" is another innovative feature by Marvel to integrate interactive content into their comics. Because when I read comics, I always think, this is good but what I really want when reading is to watch video. It's a strange idea to insert video of artists informing the reader how they came up with a particular design choice for the panel but how interested are you in hearing about that really? It depends on the reader but I'm not one of those who needs to know everything about the creation of a comic. Also, I read to read - I'm not some ADHD kid who needs to flick from reading to watching video and back again every few panels.

Some of the best comics writers working today worked on this book. Jason Aaron, one of my favourite comics writers, has written a great run on Wolverine and is working on the even better Wolverine & the X-Men title; Ed Brubaker wrote one of the most acclaimed Captain America books ever; Jonathan Hickman's doing stellar work on FF and Fantastic Four; and Brian Michael Bendis, whose work on Ultimate Spider-man, Marvel's flagship character, speaks for itself: 12 years of first class writing and counting, his stewardship of that character has been invaluable to Marvel and readers alike. And yet, all of them worked on this book and all of them failed to create an interesting story. Too many cooks in the kitchen maybe? But it makes me think that maybe it's not just the writers who should be blamed for this awful book but the dodgy creative direction at Marvel who steered this book into such unfathomably crap waters. Either way, despite this book having enormous talent attached, it is a massive artistic failure.

So another year, another lacklustre Marvel Comics event. "Avengers Vs X-Men" is for those who enjoy WWE wrestling and like to play with gadgets and watch videos rather than read a comic straight through. This book is dumber than Lou Ferrigno's pants. It's also for people who don't care much about anything related to good storytelling, like character development, memorable scenes and dialogue, and good writing - just superheroes punching one another. This review is already too long so I won't go into the many plot holes the flimsy premise of this book rests upon but suffice it to say "Avengers Vs X-Men" is a cynical, contrived, bloated mess of a book that, despite its immense bluster, is ultimately a very small, piecemeal story with forgettable moments offering nothing of substance.

If someone tells you this is a good book and is worth reading, be very suspicious. Chances are they're waiting for you to fall asleep somewhere around the 300th page and umpteenth consequence-free fight, then steal your kidneys. But I'd wake up! you say. Oh no - reading this boring book is far more potent than camphor. You won't awaken until it's all over. To re-iterate: read this and you will lose your kidneys to the black market and die. To avoid this inevitable fate, stay far away from "Avengers Vs. X-Men". But who wins? you ask, the Avengers or the X-Men? Nobody wins, you poor soul. We all lose by reading this.
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4.0 out of 5 stars "Power corrupts. Absolute Power corrupts absolutely" All Phoenixes are monsters., 12 July 2013
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This volume reprints issues #0-12 of Avengers Vs. X-Men, written by all the big guns, and drawn by other big guns. It begins with the return to action of the Scarlet Witch and ends with the arrest of Cyclops for crimes against humanity. Nova crash-lands in New York bringing news of the approach of the Phoenix force, which leads the Avengers to try and gain access to X-Man Hope. Cyclops doesn't approve and fired the first shot in a battle that will `change the Marvel Universe forever' again. It is well-written and excellently well-drawn, the plot actually makes more sense than most big events, though characterisation occasionally takes back-seat to plot development, but this is a comic book, not War and Peace. When the Phoenix force arrives, Tony Stark's attempt to stop it causes it to split up and infect five X-Men, who use the force to create almost a House of M-style utopia - but without the bad stuff - while the Avengers descend into almost a rerun of the Civil War / Dark Reign period, which I am sure is not just a cheap copy but meant to show the corruption of power, as the Phoenix 5 slowly become corrupted by their power, and turn on each other in order to acquire more. Eventually the Scarlet Witch and Hope are able to bring the story to a conclusion, as absolute power corrupts absolutely, we get a final resolution to the House of M event, and, this being America, someone has to go to jail for it all...

I only gave it four stars because, despite the power corrupting business, Cyclops seemed to be acting out of character, though that may have been building up over the past few years of X-crises.
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7 of 8 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars It has come to this..., 8 Jan 2013
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Fanboys and schoolchildren working on the "who would win if Y fought X" will love this. Unfortunately, it is also a perfect example of how not to write in a shared world, whether professionally, as here, or in fanfiction.

Firstly, if you are going to retcon canon extensively, make sure you have given your reasons. Here the authors have picked and chosen bits of the long Phoenix/Dark Phoenix saga and dismissed the rest. It is unfortunate that the bits they have picked do not fit together. If the retcon of the original Dark Phoenix saga in 'Phoenix Rising' did not take place, and Jean Grey really did die on the moon, then, really, fellas, Jean wouldn't have married (and subsequently divorced) Scott, and it wouldn't be the Jean Grey School.

And that is just the simplest of the problems created here. I find suspending my disbelief rather difficult.

Likewise, it is not enough, when you have characters acting so far away from their normal behaviour - particularly characters like Captain America and Scott Summers - it is not good enough simply to excuse it by having another character (in this case Iron Man and Magneto) say, "Hey, you're acting like me," and expect that to cover your asses as an explanation.

As for having a polar bear in Antarctica just so you could do a call-out to 'The Empire Strikes Back' - spare me!

Setting all that aside, there is some fun dialogue, and some really nice art. Not so much on the characters - some of which look very odd - but on the splash panels.

You do get a lot for your money, though, and the production is lovely. See if you can get it discounted.
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6 of 7 people found the following review helpful
2.0 out of 5 stars Massively disappointing end to years worth of stories, 1 Feb 2013
This review is from: Avengers Vs. X-Men (Hardcover)
I suppose that the purpose of the big Marvel events such as this is to bring in brand new readers to the title and cut through all that has gone before - it can be the only reason for completely ignoring the personalities of the characters that are supposed to be portrayed here. Even so this book fails as it deals with the Messiah saga from the X-men - which has been ongoing for over 10 years so new readers are unlikely to understand to status quo coming into this book.
It is mainly written by decent Avengers writers (Bendis) and X-men writers whose stories were hated by fans (Fraction, Brubaker, Aaron)the good X-men writers (Gillen, Carey) are kept well away in order to increase the Avenger's status after the film.
Hilariously though in the attempt to portray one side as in the right they go far to far and actually make them responsible for everything that happens if you read the story and not just look at pictures of punching which is all the writers assume anyone reading this will do.
This should be avoided - but the new titles it has led to look to be really good so far - and Marvel can at least be praised that it didn't do a DC and treat it's readers like complete morons.
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3.0 out of 5 stars Lighthearted book but unsatisfying book, 23 Aug 2014
This review is from: Avengers Vs. X-Men (Hardcover)
It’s easy to dismiss this book as a series of mindless battles ad nauseum. The foreword is supplied by some obscure sports entertainer and the whole thing presented as a beat ’em up video game. The plot, what there is, revolves around a mutant called Hope (sister to Faith and Charity perhaps?) who will become the next host of the Phoenix force as it heads towards Earth. (The Phoenix, don't laugh, is an intergalactic bird that destroys planets quicker than Galactus. Cyclops, a character with insufficient charisma to sustain a movie franchise, acts like an jerk, repeatedly, so that the X-men and Avengers can fight, repeatedly.

In this book’s defence there are some plain silly, amusing cartoons at the back that remind you this is not Tolstoy. This is a fun book built around the concept of ‘would X (no pun intended) beat Y in a fight’. The problem with this book is that the fights aren’t very good, and you get the feeling the results are deliberately skewed and therefore somewhat predictably, provocative. I lost count the number of times Thor issues his trademark warning only to be obliterated or humiliated. Meanwhile, far less powerful characters like Wolverine and the Hulk(s) get their ‘cool’ moments. And most irritatingly, this books bears all the hallmarks of being a native X-Book with guests the Avengers...all of them.

More surprisingly, Jason Aaron is cited as the prime author, when this story clearly has co-author Bendis and Loeb’s fingerprints all over it. More tellingly, this book is Oversize Hard Cover (OSHC) size and format, while the tie-in (crossover) book is actually an Omnibus - 568 vs 1112 pages respectively. That really tells you all you need to know about the paucity of plot. Overall, the bigger crossover collection (The Companion) features, on the whole, superior story, art and production values. Whereas the Omnibus is stitched-bound, this book is glued, meaning there are difficulties reading some of the dialogue and accessing the app scan codes etc.

Of course big changes are in store for both teams both as a result of this story and also editorially, now that Bendis' reign come to an end. Those expecting more from this really shouldn't be surprised.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Mutantkind's Last Hope?, 22 Nov 2012
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The Marvel heroes can be categorised in two ways - Avengers or X-Men. There are some who slip between the cracks (like Ghost Rider or Blade) but the majority of heroes have an alignment to one of those sides. The fans themselves are also split with some preferring the X-Men corner of the Marvel Universe and others preferring the Avengers side, so the Avengers vs. X-Men event felt more natural and organic than the rather contrived Civil War, where some heroes acted out of character in order to generate conflict.

Since the House of M storyline, the mutants have been at their lowest ebb and facing total extinction as a species, due to the unpredictable powers of the Scarlet Witch and her cursed mantra of "No More Mutants". After years of struggling as an endangered species, there is a glimmer of Hope, quite literally, when the first new mutant is born. A red-haired girl named Hope. Taken to the future by the time-displaced X-Man known as Cable, Hope grows into her teenage years and returns to the present to embrace her destiny as the mutant saviour.

During her time with the X-men, Hope exhibits powers that suggest a link between her and the entity known as the Phoenix Force. Believing that her destiny is to become a host to the Phoenix and to reignite the mutant race, Hope spends her time training for this ambitious task. The Phoenix itself reappears and heads towards Earth and towards Hope.

The Avengers recognising the global danger that the Phoenix force represents attempt to take Hope into their custody and protection, fearing that if she gains the power of the Phoenix that she would become corrupted and turn into the Dark Phoenix, a deadly and unpredictable cosmic entity. The X-Men refuse to hand over their saviour to their fellow heroes and tensions snap between the groups, leading to one of the biggest Civil Wars between heroes (well, since the last one!)

This event is the culmination of almost a decade's worth of stories which have been building up to this point, starting with the Scarlet Witch's descent into madness in Avengers: Disassembled, which led to her decimation of the mutant race in House Of M, with tensions building between heroes during Civil War and the X-Men's Messiah Complex with Hope and their recent Schism with Wolverine and Cyclops setting up opposite teams. As such, there are a lot of references to earlier events and satisfying conclusions to long running story-arcs. New readers can still enjoy this story without reading the earlier books, but will find themselves missing out of some of the more subtle story beats.

The twelve part storyline is quite epic, with more than one plot twist that changes the flow of the narrative to places you wouldn't expect. Despite the story being collaboratively written by five writers and drawn by three artists, it doesn't ever feel disjointed and works well on the printed page.

What makes this story more interesting than the past events is that there is no real hero or villain in this piece - just two leaders (Cyclops and Captain America) who both believe they are doing the best for their relative races. As an Avengers fan predominately, I sided with their team from the beginning, but it would be interesting to find out whether an X-Men fan would side with Cyclops and the mutants when reading the book.

Reading some of the battles are fun and seeing match-ups that you wouldn't normally see since these heroes usually fight on the same side. I particularly liked seeing Red Hulk getting his comeuppance at the hands of Namor, since he is a bit overused and overpowered, in my opinion. Most of the big names in both teams are featured in this main series, but some of them getting an extended appearance in the supplementary series, AVX Versus, which focuses on the fights rather than the plot.
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5.0 out of 5 stars The battle over all other battles., 5 July 2014
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I have always liked superhero's; throughout my childhood. Earlier this year I started collecting comic books. I already have a number of comics now (over 7). This time when I bought a comic, I was looking for a comic that would; last a long time. And that, would also have loads of different characters. Avengers versus X-Men; doesn't disappoint. This book has loads of characters, in-fact all the main marvel characters. There is a quality storyline, this book is action packed, full of twists and turns; and most importantly, a very good book. This book has over 300 pages, 372 in-fact. This book didn't ever get boring. I just kept wanting to read more, the story progressed, even though there was loads to read. Occasionally, you may find some comic books that last a long time, slightly repetitive or boring; this comic certainly was not. There are loads of great fights, loads of content and over 300 pages; as previously mentioned. To any comic book fan, I suggest buying this. It is a brilliant comic book, I would give it a 9 out of 10.
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4.0 out of 5 stars Very satisfying and properly dramatic. This is especially powerful ..., 4 July 2014
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Very satisfying and properly dramatic. This is especially powerful for the characterisation of Cyclops who is at his most complex throughout this book.
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4.0 out of 5 stars BIG MARVEL showdown X-Men Vs Avengers!!!, 24 May 2014
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Absolutely love the story line, however some Issues the art of the story weren't so great... kinda displeased with how some issues the art ruined the great story.... Nevertheless after 3 issues the art returns to normal being fantastic & enjoyable again!!
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3.0 out of 5 stars a decent read, 1 April 2014
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A good story, with some brilliant elements. It builds quite well, but could have easily been a 2-3 issues shorter.
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