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5.0 out of 5 stars Martians in Moscow
Back in 1989, when the BBC cancelled Doctor Who, the production team had already started work on the next season of stories to feature the Seventh Doctor and Ace.

Now, years on, these stories have been adapted for audio. So we can finally hear what might have been.

This is the first of them, and three more will follow.

It runs for four...
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2.0 out of 5 stars Thin Ice – A bit of a frozen Turkey
Released in 2011, this is the third release in the second season of Lost Stories from Big Finish. It kick starts a series of full cast audio adventures for the Seventh Doctor and Ace, and finally give us the scripts that were planned for the season following ‘Survival’. The adventure is 4 episodes of half an hour each, on two discs. The end of each disc has...
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5.0 out of 5 stars Martians in Moscow, 25 May 2011
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Back in 1989, when the BBC cancelled Doctor Who, the production team had already started work on the next season of stories to feature the Seventh Doctor and Ace.

Now, years on, these stories have been adapted for audio. So we can finally hear what might have been.

This is the first of them, and three more will follow.

It runs for four episodes each of which are thirty two to thirty four minutes approx in length, and is spread over two discs.

The story sees the Doctor and Ace in Moscow in 1967. Where the Soviet Union are testing out a new weapon. One that might just have it's roots in alien technology.

The Doctor and Ace get involved in a scheme to steal the weaponry. Along with a cockney gangster, a russian woman, and an ice warrior. The latter has been exiled on Earth for a very long time.

But the gangster is working for a mysterious individual. And the Doctor has a few plans which, as usual, he hasn't shared with Ace. And he's not the only manipulative schemer there. As the theft leads to all sorts of complications, his relationship with his companion might never be the same again....

The usual big finish story is written as a straight audio drama, whereas the lost stories are audio adaptations of scripts that were originally intended for television. They can feel far more like tv stories as a result. Although they do need work to flesh them out and make them work on audio in their own right. Thus they are longer than the tv episodes might have been. But those would have required editing to get them down into twenty five minute long timeslots. Thus this really does give the story room to live and breathe, and audio is perhaps a better format for it. Not least because it also can allow for action and chase sequences and big special effects moments that wouldn't really have worked very well on tv via a bbc budget in 1990.

Sylvester Mccoy and Sophie Aldred do a superb job of recreating the style of their performances of the time, given that they've got a lot of audio experience under their belt and the audio version of the character have matured a lot in the meantime.

The story also does a very good job of creating the 1960's setting.

It does rather take a while to get going in part one. But come part two things really click when the attempted theft begins. And with chases and double crosses and hidden agendas galore coming thick and fast after that, it really is very detailed and absorbing.

The final part resolves things nicely via some good character drama.

I'm not sure if this one ends the way it might have on tv, but that's no matter. Because the season twenty seven that never was is here at last, in a form that more than does it justice.

Nowadays Doctor Who can do long story arcs as a matter of course, but back then it was rather novel. The Seventh Doctor's seasons were trying that, though, and the same is done here. Thus events in this one will come back into play in the next story Crime of the Century (Doctor Who: The Lost Stories) a trailer for which can be found at the end of disc two.

There's roughly fifteen minutes worth of interviews with cast and crew at the end of disc one.
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4.0 out of 5 stars Ice Warriors with the Doctor and Ace!, 17 May 2015
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Season 27 begins! Anyone fancy some frozen fish fingers for breakfast?

In 1989, `Doctor Who' got cancelled. Had the series continued though, it would have had another season for 1990 called Season 27. Many years later, Big Finish revived those `lost stories' for their range of `Doctor Who' audios. We can at last hear these stories brought to life on audio!

I was aware of this missing Season 27 from watching the documentary `Endgame' on the 'Survival' DVD. I was fascinated by these stories that could have been with the likes of 'Earth Aid'. Now with Big Finish adapting these stories for audio, we can find out what this season would have been like.

Andrew Cartmel, the original script editor of Sylvester McCoy's era of `Doctor Who' was chosen to be script editor of these `lost stories' of Season 27. This definitely brings back the nostalgia of the Seventh Doctor era with Andrew script-editing as he knows the Doctor and Ace inside and out.

The first story of Season 27 is `Thin Ice' by Marc Platt. This is a four-part story that was originally called `Ice Time' and was meant to be the second story of the season and to be Ace's last story. But now it's become the first story with `Earth Aid' being the finale of the season.

Marc Platt contributed to the TV series with his story 'Ghost Light' for the Doctor and Ace. Marc has written plenty of Big Finish audios since then, so I'm sure he was delighted to be writing for the Doctor and Ace in a story that he was commissioned to write with Ice Warriors and set in the 1960s.

`Thin Ice' is set in 1967 Moscow where the Doctor and Ace visit during the Cold War. They run into the Russians discovering Martian technology and meet the Ice Warriors who want to take it back. But this all turns out to be a test for Ace who is considered to join the Academy of Time Lords.

This is a fascinating and very enjoyable story by Marc Platt with lots of 1960s Cold War elements thrown in and adding the Ice Warriors into the mix. There are motorcyclists with Ice Warrior helmets featured in the story, as well as ancient relics such as a special egg and a powerful Martian helmet.

Both Sylvester McCoy and Sophie Aldred ease back into the characters of the Doctor and Ace really well in stories set directly after the TV series. It's amazing these two working well with each other and they continue to develop the relationships of the Doctor and Ace in these Big Finish audios.

Sylvester McCoy as the Doctor is manipulative and cunning as ever. We get to learn in this story why he's been testing Ace in stories such as 'The Curse of Fenric' as he's preparing her to become a Time Lord. He's in mental contact with one of the Time Lords who's assessing Ace during her training.

Sophie Aldred is brilliant as Ace in this audio. It's interesting to find how this story could have been Ace's final adventure had she gone onto to the Academy to become a Time Lord. Ace is not happy with the Doctor setting her up like this and may not trust him ever again for deceiving her.

The story's guest cast includes Ricky Groves (from `Eastenders') as Marcus Creevy. Marcus is a wide-eyed Cockney guy who does some dodgy dealings with the Russians in 1960s Moscow. He's having a secret relationship with Raina Kerenskaya, one of the Soviet lieutenants in Moscow.

There's Beth Chalmers as Lt. Raina Kerenskaya, who falls in love with Marcus in Moscow and works for the Soviet Union. Raina turns out to be pregnant during this story when she tells Ace. Rainia gives premature birth too early when she wears the legendary Ice Warrior helmet and becomes Sezhyr.

There's John Albasiny who plays Major Felnikov, a ruthless Russian during the Cold War. John is a very good coach in speaking Russian which helped the actors in the studio playing Russians in the story. Felnikov does some nasty things getting what he wants, especially locking Ace up in a fridge.

And there's Nigel Lambert as Wolshkin, a Russian who rescues Ace from freezing inside the fridge. It turns out that Wolshkin is an Adjudicator who's been in contact with the Doctor and has been assessing Ace on her becoming a Time Lord graduate at the Academy on Gallifrey.

The Ice Warriors are brilliant. Nicholas Briggs plays the Ice Lord Hhessh with Nigel Lambert as Glarva. I'm not usually a fan of the Ice Warriors really, but I was impressed by how they turned out in this adventure. The Martians are certainly anxious when legend Sezhyr isn't as he seems.

In this story, Raina gives birth to a baby daughter who she and Marcus name Raine. This marks the first appearance of Raine in `Doctor Who' as she would go on to a important person in the Doctor and Ace's life in future stories of this season.

I really like how in this story, the Ice Warriors' favourite food turns out to be frozen fish fingers. This is an inspired idea and makes sense as I can easily imagine Ice Warriors eating fish fingers. This reminds me a bit of Matt Smith's Doctor, who has his fish fingers with custard.

At the end of the story, the Doctor finds Ace has gone without saying goodbye. The Doctor is saddened by this. It then turns out the Time Lords turned down Ace's application to join the Academy. The Doctor is frustrated before realising Ace is still on Earth and goes off to find her.

When the Doctor finds Ace at her home in Perivale (twenty years too early), there's tension between them. The Doctor tells Ace that she won't be going to Gallifrey and asks her to join him again. Ace gradually agrees and the two of them go off together, as 'they've still got a lot of work to do...'

I've greatly enjoyed listening to `Thin Ice'. It's a good opening story to this Season 27 of `Doctor Who'. It's a great adventure set in the 1960s with the Doctor and Ace facing the Ice Warriors. I was looking forward to hearing more adventures in this season and finding out what happens next.

The CD extras are as follows. At the end of Disc 1, there are behind-the-scenes interviews with the cast and crew on the making of `Thin Ice'. These interviews include Sylvester McCoy; Sophie Aldred; Ricky Groves; Beth Chalmers; script editor Andrew Cartmell; director Ken Bentley; etc.

There's a trailer for the next story with the Doctor and Ace called 'Crime of the Century'.
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5.0 out of 5 stars The Umbrella Man Vs The Ice Warriors, 15 Jun. 2014
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Thin Ice.
Adapted from: Ice Time.
Doctor: Seventh Doctor.
Companion(s): Ace.
Main enemy: Major Felnikov, The Ice Warriors.
Main setting: Moscow, the Soviet Union, London, November 1967.
Writer: Marc Platt.
Director: Ken Bentley.
Format: 4 Episodes on 2 CDs..
Running time 140 minutes.

Cast.
The Doctor - Sylvester McCoy
Ace - Sophie Aldred
Markus Creevy - Ricky Groves
Lt. Raina Kerenskaya/Sezhyr - Beth Chalmers
Hhessh - Nicholas Briggs
Major Maxim Alexandrovitch Felnikov - John Albasiny
Adjudicator/Glarva - Nigel Lambert
Yevgeni/Yasha Lemayev - John Banks

Trivia.
1)This is Ace's first encounter with the Ice Warriors.
2)Lt. Raina Kerenskaya is from Kiev while her grandfather was a fur-trapper in the Ukraine. As of November 1967, she is fifteen weeks pregnant.
3)This story deals with Ace's departure as it was meant to happen, though the Virgin New Adventures and DWM comic strips both had other endings for her. However, she did not leave. Discussion between the various parties involved with the production resulted in the conclusion that Ace would never have left anyway.
4)Ice Time, the unproduced television story on which this story is based, was set in 1960s London.
5)This story takes place in November 1967, the same month as the original broadcast of TV: The Ice Warriors in which the eponymous aliens made their debut.
6)This is the first audio drama to feature the Seventh Doctor and Ace travelling without another companion since Audio: The Rapture in September 2002, Either Hex or Bernice Summerfield had appeared in all of the stories featuring the pair in the interim.
7)Ace first visited 1960s London in TV: Remembrance of the Daleks.
8)Immediately after the events of this story, the Doctor and Ace travel to October 1989 where they are reunited with Markus Creevy and Colonel Felnikov as well as the former's then twenty-one-year-old daughter, Raine. Both Markus & Felnikov take some time to realise that Ace is the same girl that they met in 1967, having not aged a day in the interim two decades. (Audio: Crime of the Century).
9)Markus returns (22 years older) in the next story Crime Of The Century.
10)His newborn daughter becomes the Doctor's newest companion, Raine. She is played by Beth Chalmers, who plays Raine's mother in this audio.
11)Major Felnikov also returns in the next story, promoted to Colonel.
12)Ricky Groves is better known for his role as Gary Hobbs in Eastenders.

Plot Synopsis.
The Seventh Doctor and Ace arrive in Russia, 1967, the Russians are hoping to gain an advantage in the Cold War after discovering ancient Martian technology.

However, the Ice Warriors want one particularly important artifact back while this will not be a test for the Doctor, but is a test for Ace who the Doctor believes may be ready to graduate to become a Timelord.

Timelord Thoughts.
Big Finish release there second series of Lost Stories this time focusing on the unmade season 27 arc detailing this series of 4 unmade storys for tv now released for the first time by Big Finish on audio.

Thin Ice by Marc Platt is a entertainingly good adventure featuring Russian gangsters & the return of the Ice Warriors in 1967 at the time of the Cold War.

Marc Platts script sees the usual Seventh Doctor scheming behind his companion's back plus a entertaining plot featuring a heist with Ice Warriors on the hunt for a malevolent relic & finally a subplot about Aces induction in possibly becoming the first non-Gallifreyan Timelord that doesn't really go anywhere.

The Seventh Doctor must allow Ace to solve the mystery of the Martian relics without any interfering which is a difficult task for the most manipulative of Doctors, I can't praise enough these two performances of Sylvester McCoy & Sophie Aldred here, who despite having worked together many times for Big Finish slip effortlessly back into their `early days' dynamic plus a great moment between the Doctor & Ace in episode four where Ace finally has it out with the Doctor as she questions his motives is played with intensity adding great drama between the two leads.

Ricky Groves delivers a excellent entertaining performance as Markus Creevy a diamond geezer Cockney wide-boy type character with a heart of gold & it's great casting for actor Groves to play this character who also reprises the character in the next story, Crime Of The Century.

As for the Ice Warriors well there quite menacing in this adventure played by voice of the Daleks & Cyberman actor Nicholas Briggs in the role of Hhessh as Marc Platts script gives the character more personality than the average Ice Warrior complete with a liking for fish fingers which is surely a post-Eleventh Hour in-joke.

Overall this is a excellent start to series 2 of Lost Stories featuring the unmade season 27 with good performances by actors Sylvester McCoy, Sophie Aldred & Ricky Groves who make Marc Platts story come to life.

Timelord Rating.
9/10
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5.0 out of 5 stars If only, 2 Dec. 2012
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If only Doctor Who hadn't gotten cancelled in 1989 then we might have been enjoying this story on dvd rather than audio as a lost story. This would have opened season 27 in 1990 and would have been judging from this one of Sylvester Mccoy's best stories featuring the return of old enemies The Ice Warriors and set in 1967 Moscow. Of course if shown on tv there's a chance it would have ended up looking very cheap with unconvincing Russian accents thanks to the bbc's limited budget but as usual with Doctor Who it's the show's imagination that comes through and the result is an excellent gripping 4 part story with The Ice Warriors in Russia looking for an old Martian relic and The Doctor involved in one of his grand schemes involving the fate of companion Ace. Sylvester Mccoy's dark manipulative Doctor was part of the final seasons of the show and improved on the bumbling clown introduced in his first season and this story brings all that to a climax with the reason for his behaviour revealed and if you are wondering what happened to Ace these stories will cover it as well as introducing a new companion who never made it to tv. Sylvester Mccoy and Sophie Aldred both excellent as The Doctor and Ace with a mostly good supporting cast. Well worth a listen.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Thin Ice, 22 April 2011
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This is probably my favorite Lost Story - cant wait for the rest of the season. Sophie Aldred pitches her performance perfectly and it sounds like we're listening to the younger Ace from the TV series and not the slightly older Big Finish Ace that we're used to. It reminds me so much of the early Big Finish story The Fear Monger in that it could fit directly into the series. The story itself is very good set in Russia with an old favourite monster will be enjoyable for most fans. There are aspects to the story which may cause this story to compared with other works from Marc Platt - specificly Lungbarrow, but I'll refrain from spoilers while highly recomending the story.
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2.0 out of 5 stars Thin Ice – A bit of a frozen Turkey, 16 Jan. 2015
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Released in 2011, this is the third release in the second season of Lost Stories from Big Finish. It kick starts a series of full cast audio adventures for the Seventh Doctor and Ace, and finally give us the scripts that were planned for the season following ‘Survival’. The adventure is 4 episodes of half an hour each, on two discs. The end of each disc has some interviews with cast and crew.

On the strength of the episodes that I have listened to, it seems a mercy that the classic series finished on the high that it did, if these stories had been made and transmitted I think that the show’s demise would have inevitable and it would have left on a very sour note.

In this weak opening story we find Seven and Ace in Moscow, 1967. What follows is a pretty standard seeming run around chasing after some alien artefacts that shouldn’t be on Earth. Intertwined with this is a plot strand in which the Doctor is trying to get Ace enrolled at University. But not just any University. And Ace doesn’t know about it. The story also features the origin story of Raine Creevy, who would have been the Doctor’s new companion if the TV series had been green lit.

The thrust of the story is that Ace is being tested, though she doesn’t know it. As a result she has to face a lot of situations without the Doctor’s help, though he just can’t stop himself from interfering. This could have led to some great scenes, for example Warrior Ace dealing with the honour bound Ice Warriors, but opportunities are never seized, the cast are all a bit too melodramatic and the entire production is very flat. There is no feeling of pacing to the script, and it mistreats the classic Ice Warriors dreadfully. Time after time it builds expectations then totally fails to meet them. It’s a bit of a flop in my eyes, 2 stars in total.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Ice Ice Baby, 3 May 2011
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It's an absolute treat to hear The Seventh Doctor and Ace back together in an original audio adventure - I mean original in the sense that this script from Marc Platt was initially penned in 1989 and was set to be the next story in the original TV series - before it was so cruelly cancelled.
The chemistry is spot-on, and the guest cast superb. Ricky Groves, Eastenders' Jack-the-lad Garry, is superbly dodgy as seemingly innocent fur salesman Markus Creevy, whilst Beth Chalmers also excels as Creevy's Russian squeeze Lt Raina Kerenskaya.
The Ice Warriors were long overdue a revival by 1990, and their appearance here is another good reason to purchase this atmospheric and consistently engaging audio adventure.
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