2 of 2 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Great Conversation P
This was an intriguing read. The catalyst for picking it up (years ago and not finishing it) was to see how it could help with women as you can imagine. But in later life (now married and in a sales role), I thought it offer hints to the interaction and "sales seduction" for business. However, the seduction really becomes the back drop to what is an interesting...
Published 8 months ago by StephenWills
3.0 out of 5 stars Novel vs Step by step guide.2014
This is an interesting story, but it is more of a story than a book on "How to". In other words if you are looking for tips and tricks on how to become a pickup artist this book will only wet your appetite. If you are looking for a step by step guide consider "The Mystery Method" by Mystery, but be warned this book can be a little hard to follow. As for...
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2 of 2 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Great Conversation P,
This was an intriguing read. The catalyst for picking it up (years ago and not finishing it) was to see how it could help with women as you can imagine. But in later life (now married and in a sales role), I thought it offer hints to the interaction and "sales seduction" for business. However, the seduction really becomes the back drop to what is an interesting journey through the writers journey to find himself - and eventually arriving back at being himself - but with a whole lives worth of experience which if he had encountered in the normal way and not as a mission would have made him the man he wanted to be either way. Particularly liked the way the writer threw himself into the new underground world and way out of his comfort zone to eventually become the person he so longed to be. An inspiration in that sense. Recommended read for some light hearted social dynamics.
7 of 8 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Sexist =yes. Precipitous =yes. Potentially increases self-confidence of some, whilst reminding that sex isn't everything: tick.,
To get ahead of, or perhaps not become unsuspecting game for PUA (pick up artists), I read this interesting book.
Strauss employs basic psychological and sociological principles to enhance the successfulness of meeting partners of the opposite sex (all in the book are female, but there is no comment on whether this would work with males).
In one way, this could be interpreted as misogynistic, sexist and manipulative to possibly vulnerable women. In another light, I got the sense that Strauss wanted shyer/ less confident men to have the confidence to speak to women and feel acceptance.
In light of how the book concludes, my potentially-naive view is that Strauss wasn't writing this book with a view to convince hoards of men to be serial 'one-night-stand-players' but to get them to realise that they are all they need to be, rich or poor, however they appear and that with a little thinking behind their approach, they can simply create a better environment for meeting potential partners.
Strauss also hints throughout the book that sleeping around isn't always fulfilling or what it's hyped up to be and positions himself in a strong place to authentically challenge the stereotypical male view that the correlation between amount of sexual partners and 'manliness' is not necessarily a positive upward curve.
So overall, despite being a bit of a tedious, slightly irritating, yet intriguing book, I like the idea that his logical/scientific/set approach may appeal to some who struggle with confidence, but leaves the reader with a clear perspective that seducing multiple humans may seem great, but it's rather like craving a packet of crisps; great while it lasted, but the crisps finish and leave you feeling pretty empty quite quickly, plant some potatoes though...
5.0 out of 5 stars Neil Strauss - your pal!,
This didn't quite go in the direction I was led to believe it would by others who claimed to have read it (goes to once again assert my theory that ALL reviews and reviewers should be ignored - in fact I wouldn't bother reading this in your place!)
However, there are a couple of things I would suggest a reader could do after turning that first page...
1 - put the thing down! Its compelling!
2 - Not enjoy some of the 'methods' of pick-up detailed within. I found myself oft times thinking "oh I seeeee!"
3 - Not end up really liking this guy! He is definitely charming and dare I say, cool, but to that lovely place where he also knows how to laugh at himself as well. I found myself in awe of the way he let negative things just bounce off of him.
...and there it is really! This book is NOT the one stop guide to becoming a MPUA (look it up!) that people have told me it was.
What it is is a few brief insights into a world I wasn't even aware existed, a person who I would like to be, and a compelling account of going zero to legend in about 18 months!
Whilst the author does come across as genuine, decent and grounded, from time to time he does appear to be a little dismissive of people who make their money from posing as pick up masters (he does name names!)
So seductive was this book that I too was compelled to finding out more and went to his website, only to be greeted by the exact same cash driven rubbish all the "others" in the field do!
I still admire the guy greatly (fantastic writer) but I couldn't help but feel Id somehow been let down. Reason?! Because, I don't know how he does it, but Neil Strauss' style (ironic!) is such that he almost feels like he is a pal! And that in itself makes this worth a read!
And I hasten to add - for both men and women alike!
3 of 4 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Just a Game,
Picking up women doesn't have to be difficult, even if your are Mr. Average, or less. This is the initial message portrayed in Neil Strauss' 'The Game'. However acquiring the knowledge to pick up hot women is not a holy grail which all men dream of finding. In fact, it is just a pseudo-reality, just a game. Strauss emancipates us from our deepest teenage fantasies by revealing his own journey, from Mr. Average to master pick-up artist or mPUA, and conveys that true love is better than multiple conquests.
Strauss' journey starts with a chance story. As a journalist he is asked to cover a story on the seduction industry. However he becomes quickly embroiled with the games best seductionist, Mystery and soon becomes his 'wingman'. From there his pick-up ability avalanches as he picks and chooses from the best seductionist around, soon becoming recognised as the best himself. However he soon self-diagnosis himself with 'oneitist' - the disease of desiring only one women. After much soul-searching he realises he does not have a disease but is in fact in love. Once he plucks up the courage to ask for a date Struass is 'out of the game' and the book ends in the manner of a fairytale romance story.
Along the route Strauss introduces techniques and advice to readers for picking up women. Although one is initially inclined to be sceptical, I believe at least some of this is actually useful information. It is not a guaranteed 'how to guide', but offers some basic psychological knowledge and helps men to recognise situation and work them to their advantage.
Prima Facie the book could easily be contrived as sexist, and have feminist screaming and shouting. However the book actually reveals men's insecurities and feeling of inadequacies, and portrays women as king makers. I believe this to be the primary message and Strauss purposely uses quotes from women only at the start of each chapter.
In conclusion, I would recommend this book to both men and women. Although a number of reviewers say this is a 'funny' book. I believe it is more of an endearing book, a sort of 'coming of age' by an adult, which also manages to make you chuckle in parts. Wither 'The Game' is fact of fiction is immaterial, it is a superb book which will surprise you in many ways.
1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Great,
This review is from: The Game: Undercover in the Secret Society of Pick-up Artists (Hardcover)
Brilliant thanks very much, would use again!!! Fast and resonable. Great book funny helpful and is good as a gift
3.0 out of 5 stars Novel vs Step by step guide.2014,
This is an interesting story, but it is more of a story than a book on "How to". In other words if you are looking for tips and tricks on how to become a pickup artist this book will only wet your appetite. If you are looking for a step by step guide consider "The Mystery Method" by Mystery, but be warned this book can be a little hard to follow. As for Neil Strauss's book, its more of a novel.
40 of 53 people found the following review helpful
1.0 out of 5 stars This book won't help improve you...it will bring you down,
So, usually the amazon ratings are so accurate, with such a high rating I truly believed this would be a great read...how I was disappointed.
The book encourages men to look at women as "targets", what do they think they are, an animal to be hunted and shot? The book will encourage you to become a robot, act unnaturally, lie, deceive and put women down ("neg") just to get them into bed. Many other reviews say "Oh, well it will help you with confidence...", but there is a problem with the way it does this. It encourages you to not act naturally, memorize lines, deceive and act in any way possible to get the "target". It instills bad habits into you! How can you have a healthy relationship with a woman if you think this way? It's built on a foundation of lies, think about it, do you like it if your friends lie, trick and deceive you? Do these kind of friendships last long?
The characters Mystery (suicidal maniac), Tyler Durden (Psychopathic), Ross Jeffries (Confused with a child's mindset) and many of the other PUA's are clearly unstable, incomplete people with many of their own problems which they aren't able to overcome, their overall lifestyle is incomplete and they clearly aren't successful in their life overall.
A particularly disturbing part was on page 350 "If a woman has been married three years or more, you come to learn that she's usually easier to sleep with than a single woman", and Mr Strauss wants to be a father one day (and presumably get married). I wonder how his relationship will last with that kind of mindset. Are you the kind of guy who believes all women are like this? The book portrays all women to be sluts, who if you persist and use enough tricks you can get into bed. Now, think about it, is this realistic? Are your mother, sister, auntie, grandmother, cousins all like this? Have all women lost their values and morals? Are they all just sluts who should be manipulated and used? I would be utterly depressed if I believed this, I believe there are good women out there, and if you want to attract them you have to work on yourself to become a man who would appeal to her.
I will finish my post on how I think you could attract a beautiful woman (inside and out), into your life:
1. Fix yourself up, get a fashionable haircut (check magazines if you don't know), wear better clothes (again ask women with style or check magazines), look after your appearance in general (shower regularly and don't look scruffy).
2. Join the gym and get healthy (you don't have to be the next Arnold, but if you are overweight or too skinny, being a healthy weight is more attractive).
3. Join clubs and take courses to meet new people. (Examples include: dance classes, art classes, fitness classes, yoga classes etc). This will allow you to meet more people and improve your social skills.
4. Read books that actually improve your life! Self-help books on confidence, social skills, success, wealth, health and many more!
Improving yourself in this natural way, will not only attract better women to you, but also better quality friends,you will be happier overall! Once you start doing all these things you yourself will grow and naturally become a more attractive person...Hope this review helped and was useful (although I'm sure I'll get some stick for it, but I'll be happy if it even just helps one guy).
8 of 11 people found the following review helpful
2.0 out of 5 stars I was a victim of a pua,
I read this book at the suggestion of a guy who used some PUA techniques on me (as I later found). He had suggested that I let my brothers read this book. My brothers are both shy guys and relatively inexperienced in the relationship area. Needless to say, due to my curious nature, I found myself reading this book. I'd never heard of PUA's before so it was all very new to me. As I read this book it suddenly dawned on me that I had been really a 'victim' of techniques such as 'push-and-pull', 'time distortion', 'take away' 'peacock' and 'neg' by this same guy I liked.
I think he didn't think I would read the book. Perhaps I gave this notion that I wasn't a girl who read books.
I decided to tell him that I had read this book and see what his response was. Needless to say he said that the book was good for shy guys who need 'help' in approaching women. All rather hilarious really. Considering the book seems more inclined to diminish woman and almost ridicule them. There was nothing on making light easy conversation. It makes a mockery of the whole notion of being in a deep and meaningful relationship or even wanting that sort of thing. Certainly the end of the book seems to suggest that most PUAs went through some kind of psychological break down. No mention of what became of the victims of these PUAs. I didn't gather that this was very important.
In general I don't feel this book will lead to a path of a loving relationship. It certainly doesn't promote qualities such as honesty, respect and regard for the other person. If you don't want a lifelong relationship and feel this is the life that you want, each to their own.
5 of 7 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Neil Strauss has won the game.,
This review is from: Game Intl (Paperback)
While the book will probably draw you in with the expectations that it is some sort of instruction manual that teaches you how to be one of these illustrious pick-up artists, it is in fact one of the greatest works of semi-biographical non-fiction ever written. The book essentially depicts the story of how Neil Strauss, previously a man riddled with anxiety about his appearance and social capabilities, becomes a virtuoso in the field of conversation and social interaction.
It is a particularly enlightening read if you have some interest in verbal and non-verbal communication as it gives in depth analysis of how this can be used to your advantage, for example to get your way with women. However, it also non-directly teaches how this can be used in all walks of life just to become a more interesting person to everybody and yourself.
From reading this book, it is obvious how Neil Strauss is so succesful in his attempts to score with women, because this book is written in the same tone and style as you can imagine him using in coversation: And it's addictive. Once you pick this up it will be a challenge to put it down again. Effectively, Neil Strauss has implemented 'The Game' into his writing, and now that he has become a critically acclaimed author for it, it is obvious he has won.
22 of 30 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Liquid Lounge Casanovas,
Strippers. Liquid lounge womanizers. It has you hooked in seconds. With each page turned, the alluring to creepy Casanova villains and victims come alive. Drinks are shaken not stirred. Jacuzzis overflowing with blondes. Miniskirts and thongs slice the heated air, hanging from the ceiling fan. The Game is a fast-paced, mesmerizing tale of a underground secret society. A study in social psychology, transformations from nerd to stud, emotional self-destruction, evolving into the creation of the seduction industry.
Investigative journalist Neil Strauss of Rolling Stone/NY Times fame provides an exhilarating memoir as he submerses himself in the shadowy lair of pickup artists. Bizarre. Alluring. It`s a cult-like subculture of hipsters who've cracked the persuasion code. Lives dedicated to seducing as many women as possible. Unpredictable story lines. A flurry of celebs. Replete with a stunningly bizarre cast of narcissistic and yet colorful characters.
But this is not a tale of the skills he obtains, or the women he seduces.
It's a journey of self discovery. It's the tale of the men he befriends, lives with and works with in his quest of becoming a master pickup artist. It's about male bonding and relationships. It's about the emotional trauma the men experience by devoting their lives to the pick up artist endeavor.
Neil's assignment is ironic. He was born a nerdish, unconfident geek. Despite having two bestsellers under his belt, he was a self-described chick repellant. Short, bald, skinny, with a big schnoz. Painfully shy, Neil is as miles away from a world-class womanizer. He schooled for 3 years at a womens college (Vassar) and never had a girlfriend.
He dives in headfirst, burns the midnight oil reading three boxes of persuasion books. He studies aura, handwriting analysis, palm reading, magic tricks, and posts online all day in the seduction message boards. Taken under the wings of the self-proclaimed greatest pickup artists, he researches techniques, obsessively testing gaming theories in clubs seven days a week.
His professional wingman is a charismatic diminutive figure, one Erick Von Markovick, aka Mystery. Mystery is king of the PUAs, with a worldwide following of disciples and students. An outlandish dresser and swashbuckling self-promoter, Mystery single-handedly invents an entire language of acronyms and jargon and field techniques for speed seduction. He adapts group dynamics, reverse psychology and neurolinguistic programming into conversation to subconsciously seduce, in a sleight of hand fashion. Under his tutoring, PUAs perfect a slavish dependency on routines and patterns until they become successful social marketing robots.
In a scant two years, Neil transforms from journalist loner into "Style", a legendary seducer. The seduction community evolves from merely an anonymous online forum into an overnight lucrative business. Soon Mystery and Strauss are world known as the pre-eminent social scientists of attraction. Neil has them set up shop at Project Hollywood - holding court in Dean Martin's old Hollywood Hills mansion. The snake oil characters who frequent the sex frat include a bizarre cast of characters. Mystery, and various luminaries with handles like Juggler and Papa, Sweater, Matador, Juggler and J Dog. It becomes a revolving door for parties, celebs, and loose women. Home to an unknown number of roommates. Even Courtney Love moves in. Tom Cruise lectures Neil about their methods; Neil reminds him he did a movie glamorizing Neil's new lifestyle. (Magnolia). Heidi Fleiss gets in a competition to pick up women, and ends up losing, so she c*blocks Neil at every turn. Paris Hilton and Britney Spears get number closed for dates.
But in the end, Neil discovers "The Game" is a dangerous obsessive Pandora's box. The players are fiercely competitive, full of Machiavellian tactics. The seductive power can corrupt, and bedding babes by the dozens may not lead to self satisfaction. And he loses himself in the insatiable elixir of seduction and lust.
Spellbinding, can only describe the trials and tribulations inside the secret fraternity. Neil gets his bestseller, which has been optioned by a Hollywood studio. Despite the creepy environment, you sense he is a genuine decent human being. He is self-deprecating, and shares his failings and frustrations. He manages to retain sight in the bizarre nature of his surrounding in which he is now embedded. But in the end, he suffers dark reflections on who and what he has become. He feels hollow at the dehumanization of women...and of himself. He loses the respect of women the more successful he is at seducing them. He is passionate about women, but comes to hate being Style.
And his posse of clandestine lady killers experience hedonistic highs, and devastating lows in the aftermath of their endeavors. The emotional toll on the crew is sobering. Project Hollywood becomes a commune infested with inter-community rivalries, dysfunctional neurotic behavior, and complete nervous breakdowns. It all eventually implodes. Neil meets his now steady girlfriend Lisa (the drummer in Courtney Love's band), and decides to retire Style.
The Game is a raunchy expose of epic proportions of a seriously twisted subculture. Strauss pens it in an addictive seductive style. Magnificently crafted with characters and emotions. You share his inner journalist voice as if it's your own. Damn near impossible to put this book down.
Others in the pick up genre you should pick up;
The Mystery Method: How to Get Beautiful Women Into Bed
Written by the guru of the seduction community. His encyclopedia-like book reads like a PHD college course on seduction. It is the template for what Strauss uses in the Game. It lays out the techniques, terminology, and methodology for anyone to learn.
The Professional Bachelor Dating Guide - How to Exploit Her Inner Psycho
A hilarious, devious sexual persuasion guide for hooking up, written by a psych doc lounge lizard who conquered the nightclubs for decades. It includes a world bachelor party vacation guide, and an asset protection guide to set up pre-marriage to shield you from divorce.
I'd recommend you get all three. Prepare to get shocked, to laugh and to learn.
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The Game: Undercover in the Secret Society of Pick-up Artists by Neil Strauss (Hardcover - 15 Sept. 2005)
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