Customer Reviews


19 Reviews
5 star:
 (3)
4 star:
 (5)
3 star:
 (3)
2 star:
 (4)
1 star:
 (4)
 
 
 
 
 
Average Customer Review
Share your thoughts with other customers
Create your own review
 
 

The most helpful favourable review
The most helpful critical review


5.0 out of 5 stars I love it
Fast no-nonsense delivery and quality produce excellent service as usual cannot recommend enough and would order form supplier again Thanks
Published 16 months ago by Steve Warrington

versus
10 of 10 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars Some good ideas but a missed opportunity
I have enjoyed many of Conroy's works and was looking forward to this one, but for those who read his last one - 1945 Red Inferno with the Western Allies going to war with Stalin's Soviet Union, you will find this one similar with the Americans holding centre stage and the British and French relegated to limited supporting roles in the war. I dont remember the others -...
Published on 22 Jan 2012 by SJ SMART


‹ Previous | 1 2 | Next ›
Most Helpful First | Newest First

10 of 10 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars Some good ideas but a missed opportunity, 22 Jan 2012
By 
SJ SMART "Smartie" (London) - See all my reviews
(REAL NAME)   
Verified Purchase(What is this?)
This review is from: Himmler's War (Hardcover)
I have enjoyed many of Conroy's works and was looking forward to this one, but for those who read his last one - 1945 Red Inferno with the Western Allies going to war with Stalin's Soviet Union, you will find this one similar with the Americans holding centre stage and the British and French relegated to limited supporting roles in the war. I dont remember the others - Poles, Canadians, Dutch, Belgians, Czechs, New Zealanders, Indians, South Africans, etc being mentioned at all sadly.

SPOILER ALERT -
A great concept overall, that Hitler is killed in June 1944 and Himmler takes control and in this story makes more rational decisions about the deployment of the Army letting the actual Generals fight the war- for example abandoning Norway, Italy and the Courland peninsula so as to straighten and strengthen the main defence lines. A truce with USSR seemed feasible in this story.

However what is annoying is many mistakes like saying the British 1st Airborne dropped in to Normandy when it was the 6th, many typos but worst of all I felt was showing how the British were clamouring for peace and an end to the war just because Hitler was dead, and with the French divided again (in this story and in the last one) between De Gaulle supporters and Communists the Americans are the main backbone and advocate to continue the war against Nazi Germany! I found this very hard to accept since historically the Americans only joined the war in 1941 after they were attacked by the Japanese and then Hitlers declaration of war on them yet now they and not the British who had been fighting since 1939 want to fight on, and as I said above seem to do all the work.

The inclusion of a German Nuclear weapon team was interesting and key to the plot for a while but not based on reality. History tells us that the Germans were decades behind the Western Allies especially as they had forced/scared off many key German Jewish scientists.

I felt too that could have been more actual battle scenes and fighting. We do get some and glimpses of others but its mainly conversations and some unusual sex scenes thrown in.

Better than many of Turtledove's efforts however but not as good as the great S M Stirling's books.

I would recommend two other great similar stories - Colin Gee's Red Gambit series and Seelowe Nord by Andy Johnson. The Germans invade England in 1940 but on the Yorkshire coast flanking the main defences in south east England, both very interesting and entertaining and much better than Himmlers war.

So, a good idea with some good moments but a missed chance again from a writer who constantly returns to the theme that the Americans won World War 2 by themselves in the alternative worlds, and probably in history too. A bit disappointing overall.
Help other customers find the most helpful reviews 
Was this review helpful to you? Yes No


9 of 9 people found the following review helpful
2.0 out of 5 stars Pretty poor, 26 May 2012
This review is from: Himmler's War (Hardcover)
A missed opportunity. There are better alternate histories. This is worse than many of the plots discussed on AlternateHistory.com.

The book would have benefitted from being better edited. There are glaring errors in the narrative; any non-US ally is relegated to exhausted/cowardly or just ignored; and some of the "facts" used (e.g. calling DUKW an acronym) are simply wrong.

Save your cash.
Help other customers find the most helpful reviews 
Was this review helpful to you? Yes No


18 of 19 people found the following review helpful
1.0 out of 5 stars himmlers war, 3 April 2012
This review is from: Himmler's War (Hardcover)
What a load of rubbish.I know this is a alternate history but even when referring to real events the author gets it wrong.Of course being american it really is about how America won the war with the odd passing mention of the "English" war effort although this normally takes the form of explaining what a boor Montgomery was and how many of the problems encountered were down to him and the "English" attitude at this time to the war.I dont suppose i have to mention by now how great the American generals were.One other thing,I dont know who these people are on the back cover who gave such first class reviews but hey maybe they were paid to do so. A shame really because the Americans can produce first class authors but this man is not one of them. My Advice give this one a miss.You wont be missing anything
Help other customers find the most helpful reviews 
Was this review helpful to you? Yes No


2 of 2 people found the following review helpful
2.0 out of 5 stars About what you'd expect, 15 Feb 2014
By 
Verified Purchase(What is this?)
This review is from: Himmler's War (Kindle Edition)
The initial idea of Hitler being killed and the German army being allowed to fight the kind of war they wanted initially appealed to me. However, it's just another book about how the Yanks won the war all by themselves, totally forgetting everything done by everyone else during the war. Oh, the Russians get quite a lot of a look in but as a whole any country or character that isn't American is treated in a typically stereotypical fashion and are portrayed as being of no use militarily. I think that American authors of this genre really ought to read some proper history on the period they're writing about - just maybe one of them may click onto the fact that a hell of a lot had been achieved in the three years before they even appeared on the scene and a hell of a lot was accomplished successfully by forces that weren't American after they finally arrived late on the scene. If this were done then the resulting books would be more balanced and less bloody insulting to the memory of the men and women from all the other countries involved who gave their all to overthrow the Nazi regime.
Help other customers find the most helpful reviews 
Was this review helpful to you? Yes No


1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
1.0 out of 5 stars What a mess., 10 May 2014
This review is from: Himmler's War (Kindle Edition)
This book fails on so many levels. Firstly, It arrived three months after I ordered it with no explanation.
As an alternate history, the book takes a plausible premise, in which Hitler is killed by a random allied bombing raid, and without his interference and insistence on static defence, the forces of the Reich organise a much stiffer defence against both the allies and the USSR. The actual idea of the defensive plan is mostly sound, essentially where they fall back to Germany's Natural borders and build stiff defensive lines whilst using jet fighters to harry the allied approach. The letdown is the fact that this seems to be the only plausible piece of alternate history in the book. They somehow find a way to make peace with the USSR (after murdering 30 million of it's citizens no less), actually buy hundreds of T-34s of them, mange to somehow plant a nuke right in the middle of Moscow and blow it up (seriously conroy, skorzeny was a commando, not a magician), and in the end nothing they do makes the slightest difference as their first engagement with the Americans bruises them so much they surrender. And that's not all. The british are portrayed as trying desperately to stop fighting the war (because they're "tired" of it), the Russians just can't wait to betray their allies and the Americans appear to be Morally righteous liberators and the only partner willing to actually do anything, most of which seems to be slogging through countryside talking about women and setting each other up, occasionally blowing superior german tanks away with ease. The book has so little actual combat it feels more like a family drama that happens to be set during the war, and Conroy's obsession with romances and half baked sex scenes manages to fill more of the plot that the actual history does. His characters are the same characters that you will find in every single novel by this author.. The beleaguered green mid ranking officer, his experienced superior and sidekick, the grumpy guy, The love interest, The token Bad guys, The token young character on the bad guy's side forced into the war unwillingly and desperate to get home, The eager Axis patriot who hates the regime and will inevitable betray them. All are simple renames of the same characters that Conroy has used in every book that he's ever written, and all are more interested in getting their love interest than actually... oh don't know, fighting the war. The plot is even largely the same, in which America will take a resoundant pounding for three quarters of the book then spin around and win the war in a blow at the end. And even the climax consists of one man getting blown up in a tank.
So, as you will doubtless have gathered by now, I didn't enjoy this. It reeks of the same Jingoism and American centric re writing of history that defines all of Conroy's work, but this one is all the more insufferable due to the sheer dislocation from reality, and the complete lack of the "war", and indeed the "Himmler" in Himmler's war.
Help other customers find the most helpful reviews 
Was this review helpful to you? Yes No


2 of 2 people found the following review helpful
1.0 out of 5 stars Cover picture reflects the quality of contents., 12 Dec 2012
Verified Purchase(What is this?)
This review is from: Himmler's War (Mass Market Paperback)
Mills and boon stuff. I don't mind a far stretched story but this is sooo predictable. I actually didn't bother finishing the book!
Help other customers find the most helpful reviews 
Was this review helpful to you? Yes No


1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars Himmler's War, 28 Feb 2012
This review is from: Himmler's War (Hardcover)
Was really excited when i saw this book on amazon. I found the book really disappointing with very few in depth battles and the story seemed to drag along and found i had to force myself to carry on reading. Good all round story that never reached it's full potential. Authors's other books i have read were quite good. If you are looking for a simillar story about Himmler taking charge of germany in July 1944 try Fox on The Rhine by Douglas Nileson and Michael Dobson and the sequel Fox at the FRont both outstanding books. Avoid Himmler's War you will be disappointed as i was.
Help other customers find the most helpful reviews 
Was this review helpful to you? Yes No


4.0 out of 5 stars The Von Rundstedt defence, 7 Sep 2013
By 
Paul Tapner (poole dorset england) - See all my reviews
(VINE VOICE)    (TOP 500 REVIEWER)   
This review is from: Himmler's War (Mass Market Paperback)
A novel of alternate history [stories that depict how things might have gone had something key in history happened differently. Just in case you've no familarity with the genre].

It runs for five hundred and two pages and is divided into twenty seven chapters.

It opens with a brief note from the writer, explaining where the story departs from real history. In this case, what if Hitler had been killed before the end of the second world war? In this story it's not by the bomb plotters of July 1944, rather by an allied air raid.

Without him around, demanding that no conquered territories be given up and not allowing any retreat, the German army might have been free to fight the war they wanted to.

Which is what happens here. Hitler is killed by a bomb. Himmler seizes power. And allows the Generals to come up with the strategies they think can save Germany.

As is usual for this genre, there are a whole host of characters. Some are real historical figures. Some are the creations of the writer. You follow the story through each of their experiences. Which means that some things do happen off screen. Creating the very real effect of people seeing history unfolding around them.

The main character is Jack Morgan, U.S. Army Captain and former Bomber pilot. We follow his experiences from heading to Normandy and joining an armored regiment there.

There are some reasonably interesting divergences from history as we know it as a result of the way things then unfold. The writing doesn't glamourise conflict nor does it shy away from depicting the horrors of warfare or the things that the ordinary combatants had to put up with.

Most of the focus is on American and German characters. The British are only mentioned rather than seen, and Montgomery does come in for criticism - but that's a matter of the perception of the characters, rather than the writer using them as a mouthpiece - but there is one British soldier who is amongst the viewpoint characters who is down to earth and decent and does some heroic things.

There's some strong language and a few adult situations. The narrative unfolds at a capable pace and the plot does manage a couple of decent surprises later on.

It doesn't break new ground and those who've read the writer's earlier works might feel some deja vu. Also, Morgan does get a bit less interesting as a character as the story goes on. But some of the other characters are reasonably three dimensional and do hold the interest.

The writer does seem to be one whose work will divide opinion. But as a fan of this particular genre I found this a pretty good read.
Help other customers find the most helpful reviews 
Was this review helpful to you? Yes No


5.0 out of 5 stars I love it, 15 Aug 2013
Verified Purchase(What is this?)
This review is from: Himmler's War (Kindle Edition)
Fast no-nonsense delivery and quality produce excellent service as usual cannot recommend enough and would order form supplier again Thanks
Help other customers find the most helpful reviews 
Was this review helpful to you? Yes No


4.0 out of 5 stars Review of Himmler's War, 24 July 2013
Verified Purchase(What is this?)
This review is from: Himmler's War (Kindle Edition)
A thoroughly enjoyable 'what if' story line. Congratulations to Mr Conroy for a book that makes the reader thinks about what could have happened. The Heydrich character really comes to life and adds substance to the book.
Help other customers find the most helpful reviews 
Was this review helpful to you? Yes No


‹ Previous | 1 2 | Next ›
Most Helpful First | Newest First

This product

Himmler's War
Himmler's War by Robert Conroy (Mass Market Paperback - 13 Nov 2012)
£5.57
In stock
Add to basket Add to wishlist
Only search this product's reviews