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9 of 10 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Highly Recommended!, 12 April 2005
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This review is from: Why Men Earn More - The Startling Truth Behind The Pay Gap and What Women Can Do About It (Hardcover)
Men's movement guru Warren Farrell says don't blame discrimination for the gap between men's and women's salaries. As he teaches women (and men, we suppose) tactics for bagging bigger bucks, he says that men earn more because women have a tendency - or perhaps a biological instinct - to prioritize family over career. Thus, Farrell maintains, women work shorter hours, take more parental leave, and are less productive, less well trained and less committed. If you are a male who has prioritized hearth and home, perhaps you have made some of the same choices that Farrell says cost women higher salaries. The book is full of footnotes, charts, graphs and sidebars, as Farrell cites U.S. Census and Bureau of Labor Statistics data (as well as, occasionally, himself). However, his analysis of the numbers usually hinges more on single studies or interviews, personal experiences, newspaper articles and conversations than on historic, social or economic trends that offer deeper explanations. Farrell outlines some real factors - danger, discomfort, late hours and heavy lifting - which increase the pay for certain jobs. He tells women that they can earn more by entering nontraditional fields. We recommend this book primarily for readers at the start of their careers or in the midst of transitions where lifestyle and financial considerations compete. Though the information about salary-based job searching is practical, if you see the world through egalitarian or feminist lenses, you may find yourself getting a little testy.
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4 of 5 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Very good for thinking outside the box, 22 April 2007
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I found this book an interesting read because it questions the prevailing view that women earn 80 % of what men do because of gender inequality.

Let me say that I am a female and not from the USA - so I became rather more interested in what the corresponding statistics would be likely to show in my country, than in the statistics Mr Farrell describes, or their validity. While there is some evidence that earning ratios might be the same in my country, the job choices in my country might not be exactly as Mr Farrell described (woman works in tidy safe warm office, man works outdoors on the cold hazardous construction site). Besides, for instance nursing is not necessarily a clean or safe occupation, either.

What I did enjoy was the mindset of the book, that you can make your choices and earn more money, if you want to, and be empowered by the choices you make. What the feminist movement might have missed is, be aware of how your job choice can reflect on your pay packet.

An issue not covered by the scope this book is the impact of "family" choices in the sense that if Mom and Dad decide it is a good safe choice for the family to live in the suburbs, while Dad commutes to town and works long hours, then Mom does not necessarily a lot of career options left. In other words, I expect many people make the traditional choices without thinking about the long-term results too much. This book does not tackle the sociological side too much, apart from pointing out that Dad can look after the children, too.

The last part of the book ("The Genetic Celebrity Pay Gap", which explains some of the ways women actually earn more than men) I found less convincing. If the author considers that people can select their jobs based on "market" conditions, then it is ok in principle to pay high fees to a top model. We also pay high fees to NHL hockey players for instance. Both to my mind are a kind of "genetic" instances anyhow which do not apply to most people.

Same goes for any kind of "favors" that especially pretty girls get which the author describes, as they are not part of a formal salary system. With the same kind of logic, the book should have included comparison of all kinds of informal perks all workers receive such as housewife offering visiting plumber or workman a cup of coffee.

Those remarks aside, I do think this is a contribution for thinking outside the "women are victims of oppression" box.
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4 of 5 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Why Men Earn More - And why women aren't really interested in doing anything about it, 20 Dec 2011
This review is from: Why Men Earn More - The Startling Truth Behind The Pay Gap and What Women Can Do About It (Hardcover)
1) Why Men Earn More

Warren Farrell systematically demolishes the claim that the difference in the average earnings of men and of women reflects discrimination against the latter. Although he avoids academic jargon and therefore does not refer to the concept, at the heart of Warren Farrell's meticulously researched investigation of the reasons behind the pay gap is what economists refer to as 'compensating differentials'.

In return for higher wages, men are prepared to subject themselves to less favourable working conditions. More specifically, men generally do less pleasant jobs, for longer and less sociable hours, commute further, are more willing to relocate and expose themselves to less pleasant and more dangerous working conditions along with various other sacrifices, large and small, which Farrell documents.

For example, all of the most physically dangerous occupations, from construction work and mining to soldiering and fire-fighting, are overwhelmingly male dominated. As a result, in any given year, men represent over 90% of workplace fatalities.

As Farrell observes, if discrimination by employers were the reason for the lower earnings of women, one would not expect to find any difference in earnings among individuals who are self-employed. However, in fact, the gap in earnings between self-employed men and women is actually far greater than that among employees. Self-employed women earn less than half the earnings of self-employed men (at xx). Unless one is prepared to invoke the implausible notion that consumers discriminate against women even more than employers do, discrimination cannot account for this.

Farrell goes further than most economists by hinting that, not only is discrimination unnecessary to explain the gender pay gap, but that employers may lessen the pay gap by actively discriminating against men. For example, he unearths one study which found that, before they give up work to raise families, female executives are actually promoted faster than male executives such that "prior to age 40 women are 15 times more likely... to become top executives at major corporations" despite the fact that "the male executives work more hours, travel more, move more, earn more MBAs [and] have more job continuity" (p86).

In the UK, a study published after Farrell published his work confirms Farrell's suspicions, finding that, when employers are sent CVs identical save for the sex of the applicant, they actually prefer female candidates, not only in traditionally female-dominated occupations, but also in some traditionally male occupations such as chartered accountant and computer analyst programmer (Riach and Riach 2006).

Perhaps the most interesting of the many facts uncovered by Farrell's meticulous research is the finding that, among individuals who have never married and have no children, women actually earn more than men and have done at least since the 1950s (xxi). Never-married men without children earn only 85% of their female counterparts (xxiii).

There are at least four reasons for this:

i) Married women get away with working less because they appropriate a portion of their husbands income in addition to their own;

ii) Married men and men with children are therefore obliged to work harder and earn more so as to financially support, not only themselves, but also their wife and offspring;

iii) Women prefer to marry rich men and therefore the men who marry are generally wealthier than those who don't - according to data cited by Bruce Ellis (1992: p269) "American men who marry in a given year earn about 50% more than men of the same age who do not";

iv) Childcare duties undertaken by women interfere with their earning capacity.

British readers interested to know to what extent the situation in the UK is analogous are advised to consult Shackleton's Should We Mind the Gap?: Gender Pay Differentials and Public Policy, an excellent pamphlet authored by a professor of economics and published by the Institute of Economic Affairs, a British libertarian think-tank.

In summary, the situation in the UK is analogous to that in the US, and that in most other First World Western democracies. For example, in the UK, "women in the middle age groups who remain single earn more than middle-aged single males" (Should We Mind the Gap?: p30).

2) What Women Can Do About It

In addition to documenting the reasons underlying the pay gap, Farrell proposes in his subtitle to address the issue of 'what women can do about it'. The front cover advertises that the book "includes 25 ways to improve your pay!" and, on the back cover, the book is classified as in the "self-help" category.

Farrell does, indeed, address the issue of how women can improve their pay. This largely involves subjecting themselves to the same working conditions as men (e.g. commuting further, tolerating less pleasant working condition etc.).

However, Farrell goes further and shows that women can actually earn the same as men without undergoing the same risks and conditions due to anti-male discrimination.

For example, he documents how, in the armed forces, women serving in Iraq get the same pay as men but have only a quarter the risk of being killed. In addition, they are subject to laxer conditions of physical fitness in order to be admitted. (See Men, Women & War: Do Women Belong in the Front Line?.)

As Wendy McElroy observed in her review of the current work on her ifeminists website, it is perhaps surprising that the best-known champion of the Men's Rights Movement is apparently advocating that women take advantage of the favourable (and discriminatory) conditions available to women in dangerous occupations. McElroy, in contrast, regards exploiting these forms of anti-male discrimination as unethical.

Farrell's decision to market the book in this way likely reflects financial imperatives, the desire to increase sales and attract a mainstream publisher. Instead of merely preaching to the converted (i.e. enthusiastic men's rights advocates who will purchase any book Farrell authors no matter how it is marketed), Farrell and his publisher clearly attempted to expand the potential audience for his book by marketing it to women hoping to improve their earnings. In doing so, this enables Farrell to document the unfair discrimination practised by employers such as the military against men, ostensibly to encourage women to take advantage of it.

My own pragmatic opinion is that if, by marketing the book in this way, some readers who would not have looked twice at a book by Warren Farrell which was marketed as a Men's Rights text are drawn to purchase the book and, in doing so, are made aware that much of what feminists and their fellow-travellers in the mainstream media propagate about the pay-gap is fallacious and misleading, then this marketing strategy will have been worthwhile, no matter how unethical one considers encouraging women to take advantage of anti-male discrimination to be in principle.

3) Why Women Aren't Really Interested in Doing Anything About It

The truth, however, is that women are not really motivated to do anything about the pay gap (other, that is, than whinge, complain, seek to justify continued anti-male discrimination and author endless best-selling but bitter and flawed feminist polemics). This is because they have no need to.

As Farrell points out, "although men earn more money, women often have more, spend more and have it longer" (p203).

This topic is addressed in Farrell's twelfth chapter, entitled, somewhat clumsily, 'Genetic Celebrity Pay Gap'.

[Farrell is blessed with the ability to coin both brilliant aphorisms and second-rate sound-bites, yet also with no apparent ability to tell which is which. His concept of 'Genetic Celebrities' falls into the latter category. It is misleading in that it implies that sufficient physical attractiveness to qualify as a 'Genetic Celebrity' is, like celebrity, is rare. However, Farrell himself acknowledges that "the opportunities are available to almost all women" (p191) at least when they are young.]

Unfortunately (and uncharacteristically), Farrell does not support his contention that women have more money and spend more money with hard data. Indeed, this chapter alone seems uncharacteristically short on references and statistics.

It is true that he documents how top female models earn five times as much as their male equivalents (p197-8). However, models represent only a tiny proportion of the population, yet Farrell contends that the opportunities created for women by their greater "social desirability and beauty power... are available to almost all women" (p191).

Curiously, although he also cites anecdotal evidence of the difference in tips available to waiters and waitresses (p190), he does not refer to inequality of opportunity in the sex industry, where differences in earnings between male and female porn stars are well-documented and where some careers are virtually exclusively available to women (e.g. heterosexual prostitution).

The hard data is, however, available. Interestingly, it has been collected, not by ideologically-blinkered social scientists, but rather by researchers in the marketing industry. Concerned with the prosaic bottom-line of maximising sales by marketing to people with the most money to spend, they cannot afford to falsify their findings so as to accord with feminist preconceptions (what Jack Kammer calls 'data rape').

Indeed, there is now an entire sub-genre of books focussed on marketing products to women with titles like Pocketbook Power: How to Reach the Hearts and Minds of Today's Most Coveted Consumer - Women and Marketing to Women: How to Increase Your Share of the World's Largest Market. According to data cited in the first of these titles, women make approximately 88% of retail purchases in the US (Pocketbook Power: p5). Similarly in the second title, data is quoted showing that women control 80% of household spending (Marketing to Women: p6).

With regard to the situation in the UK, David Thomas (in Not Guilty: The Case in Defense of Men) also provides considerable data on the disproportionate wealth and spending power of women along with insightful analysis on how this contradicts feminist assumptions of male power and privilege. Although his statistics are now somewhat out of date, the situation has changed little since in the two decades since Thomas's work was published.

Although lacking in hard data, Farrell's analysis is nevertheless perceptive. Among other issues, he discusses the female tendency to marry men of higher social status than themselves (hypergamy) as a form of "disguised income" and observes that "the men executive's income is also his wife's income" yet "the wife of the executive man has more time to spend it and usually makes more of the spending decisions" (Ibid.).

Feminists have sometimes claimed that the tendency of women to marry for money reflects their inability to achieve wealth through other means due to inequality of opportunity in the workplace. In fact, the better view is the precise converse of this. Women have generally not been motivated to undertake the hard work typically required to earn large amounts of money because they have the easier option available to them of marrying it instead.

Indeed, it might be argued that the entire process of human courtship is designed to effect the redistribution of money from men to women - from the social obligation on men to pay for dinner on the first date to the legal obligation to financially support an ex-wife for anything up to twenty years after he has belatedly rid himself of her.

A popular saying claims that 'behind every great man is a great woman'. This is, of course, a way for individual women to claim vicarious credit for achievements that are not their own, and for feminists to claim vicarious credit on behalf of womankind as a whole.

However, modified slightly, the saying has an element of truth. Although women do not contribute to the greatness or success of great or successful men, they certainly benefit from it. It would therefore be more accurate to say: Behind every successful man is a woman spending a portion of his earnings in addition to her own.

(See The Manipulated Man and the delightfully titled Sex-Ploytation: How women use their bodies to extort money from men for more radical masculist perspectives on these issues.)

4) Can anything be done to reduce the gender pay gap?

If women will not be motivated to follow Farrell's advice on how to earn more, what then can be done to reduce the gender pay-gap?

According to the perspective championed by professor Kingsley Browne in his excellent Biology at Work: Rethinking Sexual Equality (a work covering much the same material as that of the work currently under review) the pay-gap is the result of different work-life choices which are themselves ultimately traced to biologically-based differences in the psychology of the sexes. On this view, equalising the pay of men and women will, in the absence of genetic engineering or yet more reverse discrimination, remain a utopian aspiration.

However, although we may never completely eliminate the gender pay-gap, there are ways in which it could be reduced. International comparisons of the magnitude of the disparity in earnings provide an interesting starting point.

Paradoxically, the countries in which the pay gap is narrowest are not those most infested with feminists, but rather those with traditional sex roles. For example, in Bahrain, a highly traditional Middle-Eastern country, women actually earn 40% more than men ('Should We Mind the Gap?: Gender Pay Differentials and Public Policy' (linked above): p36).

This is because, if women are not encouraged to engage in paid employment, then only highly qualified, educated and motivated women will choose to do so. Discouraging women from paid employment would therefore likely reduce the magnitude of the pay-gap.

On the other hand, perhaps the most practical means of reducing the pay-gap would be to reform divorce law.

As the law currently stands, there is little incentive for women to pay heed to Farrell's advice as to how they can increase their earnings, since, rather than earn more money for themselves, the easier option of marrying and appropriating the money earned by their husbands is always open to them. If women were prevented from doing this through the abolition of maintenance, alimony and the redistribution of wealth on divorce - or perhaps even the abolition of the legal institution of marriage altogether (or at least the 'privatisation' of marriage, such that couples draw up the terms of their own marriage contracts) - then women would presumably be obliged to either work harder and earn more money for themselves or content themselves with a lower standard of living.

Neither of these proposals are likely to appeal to feminists. However, the latter proposal, namely a reform of divorce and family law, should be welcomed by all true advocates of the equality of the sexes and of fairness more generally, quite irrespective of its probable effect on the pay-gap.

Of course, even if marriage as a legal institution were abolished, men would still most likely spend a large part of their earnings on women and give money to women in exchange for affection and sexual favours. Therefore, perhaps the only way to change women's behaviour in such a way as to make them more willing to undertake work of the sort typically reserved for men would be to first change men's behaviour in such a way as to make them less willing to financially support indolent wives and girlfriends.

However, given the extent (and innate nature of) the male sexual drive, this is unlikely to represent a realistic prospect - at least until such time as technological and pornographic progress facilitates the development of more cost-effective alternatives to women as means of sexual relief (Love and Sex with Robots).

However, in the shorter term, given the current state of family law and divorce law, it is likely that more and more men will realise that marriage represents a bad deal and resort to less extortionate forms of sexual release such as promiscuity, prostitution, pornography and perversion (i.e. the so-called 'Marriage Strike').
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References

Ellis, B.J. (1992). The evolution of sexual attraction: evaluative mechanisms in women. In J.H. Barkow, L. Cosmides, and J. Tooby (Eds.) The adapted mind (pp. 267-288). Oxford: Oxford University Press.

Riach, P.A. and Rich, J. (2006). An Experimental Investigation of Sexual Discrimination in Hiring in the English Labor Market. B.E. Journal of Economic Analysis and Policy, 6, Article 1.
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5.0 out of 5 stars The Pay Gap Myth Debunked, 23 Nov 2013
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Warren Farrell comprehensively debunks the myth that women earn on average less than men due to sex discrimination by employers.
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