19 of 19 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Read this to understand 1812 War
A very good book. Prof Lambert, in my opinion, is the best naval historian there is. As the other reviewers have said this book is superb at addressing the myths and misunderstandings regarding the conflict and putting it in its proper worldwide context. I would think it is the best book on the topic for a hundred years. However, it just lacks a little of the sparkle...
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3.0 out of 5 stars A good account of the 1812 war with America, but a bit patchy
The war between Britain and America in the early nineteenth century is not well remembered on this side of the Atlantic; there was another war going on in Europe that was holding everyone's attention, and that has repercussions right down to today.
The author is a naval historian, and his handling of naval matters is exemplary; he is clearly sure of his subject. The...
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19 of 19 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Read this to understand 1812 War,
This review is from: The Challenge: Britain Against America in the Naval War of 1812 (Hardcover)A very good book. Prof Lambert, in my opinion, is the best naval historian there is. As the other reviewers have said this book is superb at addressing the myths and misunderstandings regarding the conflict and putting it in its proper worldwide context. I would think it is the best book on the topic for a hundred years. However, it just lacks a little of the sparkle that Lambert's previous books have. It on occasion seemed a little repetitive. I like the historic maps that were included but a couple of general maps would have helped.
44 of 45 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Fact vs fiction,
This review is from: The Challenge: Britain Against America in the Naval War of 1812 (Kindle Edition)Revisionist history at its best, debunking the confusion of myth with fact that has persisted in the case of the war of 1812.
For two centuries American academics and writers have consistently outgunned their UK counterparts. In part this is not surprising: for Britain the conflict was a sideshow to the more crucial Napoleonic wars, in the newly independent USA it helped develop further the sense of national identity.
Rightly so in the case of the latter, yet anyone familiar with the tortured efforts by successive American commentators to gild the lily can acknowledge the need to redress the balance.
Teddy Roosevelt was a prime exponent of the tendency, with his convoluted mathematical attempts to downplay American firepower; Dupuy and Dupuy likewise offer a partial account of the President-Endymion encounter. Tellingly, the great US naval historian Mahan offered a more even-handed analysis of the war.
The truth was that the fledgling US navy had plenty of which to be proud. If the object of a battle was to win speedily, with maximum advantage and with the fewest casualties, there is plenty to commend the three victorious Amrican frigate actions.
Likewise, no amount of argument can detract from the fact that Shannon and Chesapeake were evenly matched and the better captain won on the day.
Lambert's book possibly won't find favour with everyone across the water. He might in fairness be faulted for too glibly dismissing American anger over the Royal Navy's high handed attitude to impressment (essential as the tactic may have been). Yet this is an outstanding contribution to the genre and to the pursuit of historical truth and well-written too.
12 of 12 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Lambert's Challenge is the Victor,
This review is from: The Challenge: Britain Against America in the Naval War of 1812 (Hardcover)I expected to find Andrew Lambert's account of the War of 1812 lucid, expertly researched and factual, engaging and well-written. What I did not anticipate was that he would write this history of a much-misunderstood and much-misinterpreted sideshow of a war and the events leading up to it, with all the verve of a historical John LeCarre.
Equally, his explanations of the trade wars instigated by Napoleon, in which the Americans were little more than naive pawns and/or credulous puppets, is the finest on record. As such, The Challenge: Britain Against America in the Naval War of 1812 should be required reading for anyone wishing to understand Napoleon's Continental Blockade and the British Government's corresponding Orders in Council--though the much-embellished facade of Jeffersonian liberal idealism will be henceforth forever tarnished for most readers.
It is an outstanding work of history and naval history.
29 of 30 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars New knowledge of Royal Naval History (for me),
This review is from: The Challenge: Britain Against America in the Naval War of 1812 (Hardcover)I had never really taken much notice of the 1812 war against America, I was vaguely aware of American support for France. I had in my youth made a plastic model of "HMS Shannon" and listened to Lonnie Donegan's version of "The Battle of New Orleans" and in my ignorance thought the burning of the White House was part of the American War of Independance. I now realise I was typically British in not being aware of or interested in America's first military defeat. It is oft said that "History is written by the victors", but this is not the case with the 1812 war.The Americans regard the 3 successful engagements by the USS Constitution plus a victory at the battle of New Orleans as an overall victory. Nothing can be further from the truth and to read of the success of the Royal Naval blockade which brought the US to virtual bankcrupcy not to mention the thwarting of American ambition for Canada makes fascinating reading.The account of the contest between the Shannon and Chesapeake together with the equally enthralling contest between HMS Endymion and USS President redresses the American spin. I read most of this compelling book in one sitting which is a great credit to the author.Highly recommended and essential reading for those interested in Naval Warfare in the age of sail.
46 of 48 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars At last!!! A credible account of the Anglo-American naval war of 1812,
This review is from: The Challenge: Britain Against America in the Naval War of 1812 (Hardcover)At last, we are presented with a seminal piece of work by a British academic on the Anglo-American naval conflict of 1812. This book blows away the often 'farcical' mythologies and misconstructions depicted by some American historians, who, so wrapped up in 'Old Glory' relegate their work to little more than pulp fiction rather than an accurate and mature account of true events. As a serious academic, Lambert, does not fall into this criteria, he remains impartial and pays respect to both sides and applauds the superb seamanship often displayed by the Americans. Nevertheless, he has put the record straight regarding the reverses suffered by the valliant but often out gunned Royal Navy; culminating in one of the greatest duels in naval history; that being, HMS Shannon under the command of the maverick, Captain Phillip Broke and the USS Chesapeake, one of the big 'original six' Yankee super frigates. Captain Broke had honed his crew to such perfection that they captured the much bigger and more powerful Chesapeake in less than fifteen minutes, a herculean breath taking achievement. Lambert presents the conflict in a global, eco-political context with Britain locked in a 'zero sum' war with Napoleonic France. The book is superbly written and flawlessly researched and a must for any naval historian or enthusiast.
9 of 9 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars A de-mystification of the 1812 War,
This review is from: The Challenge: Britain Against America in the Naval War of 1812 (Hardcover)The War of 1812 is almost unknown in the UK today, where children are taught only about the Second World War, which happened between 1967 and 1893. When I try to tell Americans what actually happened in the War of 1812, as opposed to what their mythology claims, they also tend to say that no-one knows anything about that, nowadays (by which, I assume, they are trying to imply that it doesn't matter). Yet educated Americans, to this day, describe the war as the "Second War of Independence" and obsessively claim that the United States have never lost a war; the American national anthem (based on a London drinking song) dates from the 1812 war.
Both myths were exploded, very early on, by the lawyer William James, who found himself in the US when war broke out and was held there for the duration, although, it has to be said, pretty well treated and allowed access even to US Naval dockyards. Professor Lambert describes James as "polemical", apparently not as a compliment. The funny thing is that his own book is a lot like that of William James. He is ruthless in his relation of the facts and rips apart the stale American myths. It is not a history of the whole war and does not claim to be. As with William James, he explicitly concentrates on the naval war. He refers to the Canadian war, when it is appropriate, and to the incompetent New Orleans campaign, but anybody wanting to read in detail about these should go to the relevant Canadian and American literature, respectively.
What Lambert does is place the war in its context, in terms of American politics and expansionist ambitions and in terms of the continuing Napoleonic Wars. The war was started supposedly on the grounds of the wartime practices of the Royal Navy, but the states affected by those practices, those trading across the Atlantic, were not in favour of the war; the real war-mongers were those hungering for more territory on the mainland. The French adopted the same tactics as the British, but the United States never threatened war against Paris. Au contraire: the politicians in Washington clearly thought that Britain was bogged down in Spain and that France was due to conquer Russia. The catastrophic French losses in both Russia (where most of the Grande Armee wasn't actually French) and Spain (where most "French" soldiers actually were French, although certainly not all) sobered up President Madison pretty quickly, but, by then, it was too late. Canada had been invaded, leading to a humiliating US defeat, and USN victories over smaller RN vessels were all that the pro-war party had to show for going to war in the first place.
Lambert demonstrates how, given the incompetence of the US army and militias (the latter allowing Washington itself to be burned) the naval war became the crux of the conflict, since, in the context of the French war, to which Lambert rightly refers, repeatedly, as "existential", the sea was the place where Britain reigned supreme and expected to do so. It is hard to imagine now how much the British economy depended on Jamaican sugar. Lambert shows the efforts that went in to convoying the vital substance to England and the desperate, almost always unavailing, attempts that the Americans, in the form of the USN, or privateers, made to intercept the convoys. Then he shows how the RN turned the tables, initially concentrating on ports, such as Baltimore, which strongly supported the war, while sparing New York and Boston, which didn't.
In the end, the RN was blockading the whole Eastern Seaboard of the United States and the USN was effectively confined to harbour. At the end of the war, the USS President pointlessly engaged HMS Endymion and was defeated. I have seen an American account of the battle, published only about ten years ago, which shamelessly regurgitated the report of the vanquished American commander, Stephen Decatur, according to which he surrendered his ship only after the arrival of a larger British vessel. William James showed that that was a lie very soon after the war and Lambert backs up James. He also points out that the name of Decatur's frigate, "President", has never been re-used by the USN, although the name of the similarly defeated "Essex" has been endlessly recycled. Porter, captain of the Essex, clearly had a better publicist, or made fewer enemies, than Decatur.
Since that of William James, which is readily available and is extremely readable, this must be the best history of the naval war of 1812 in nearly two centuries. It's fairly long, but is always a good read; Andrew Lambert generally writes as well as he mines his sources. I do tend to think that plates are often rather superfluous, a random selection of pictures, to justify the book's price, but I actually believe the ones here are well chosen. I also like the maps and diagrams. If, as I do, you generally wear reading glasses, you may need them for the maps, but you shouldn't need a magnifying-glass, which I have had to use, for some historical tomes. All in all, I can gladly recommend this book, with no major defect to deduct a star from the maximum five.
46 of 49 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Royal Navy 1 US Navy 0,
This review is from: The Challenge: Britain Against America in the Naval War of 1812 (Hardcover)Every nation has its little frauds. Hands up those who watched and enjoyed "Zulu"? Now all those who watched and enjoyed "Zulu Dawn"? Exactly. The former, showing the heroic defence of Rorke's Drift in 1879, has entered British legendary history, the latter showing the much more important British defeat at Isandlwana a few hours earlier, bombed. As in the UK, also in the US. To most Americans, the war of 1812-1814 was fought for noble and patriotic reasons, defending a young and vulnerable nation against the depredations of the former colonial power. After a series of "stunning naval victories" (see White House website) the war ended in triumph at the Battle of New Orleans. All join in "The Star Spangled Banner" and raise Old Glory. Etc etc. At long last a distinguished academic (they don't come much better than Professor of Naval History at King's College London) has written an outstanding and gripping account of this nasty, unprincipled and back-stabbing attempt by America to seize Canada (as it later became) and most of the Caribbean, all whilst Britain was fighting for her existence against Napoleon. Contrary to US myth, the Royal Navy thrashed the US Navy in all the decisive engagements, taking the US flagship (amongst other ships) as a prize. Why do you think we have, to this day, an HMS President moored in the Thames opposite the Temple (we don't have Presidents do we). The lads took Washington DC, sent the deeply unprincipled and dissembling US President Madison running from his dinner and burned all the public (but not the private) buildings, including the White House. By the end of the war, the US was bankrupt, had lost its flagship plus the USS Chesapeake and USS Essex as prizes, had achieved none of its war aims and spent the next decade fortifying its east coast in case the Royal Navy came back. Speak for England, Professor Lambert!
7 of 7 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars 1812 War US vs Britain,
This review is from: The Challenge: Britain Against America in the Naval War of 1812 (Hardcover)This revealed (to me) an unknown part of US/UK history. The book explains and lucidly clarifies the origins and course of the 1812-1815 us/gb war. The war declared by the recently founded US on Britain was ostensibly about sea trade and impressed seamen but was actually a cynical cover by US President Madison for a grab on Canada whilst Britain was occupied fighting for its life against Napoleon and the French empire.
The book explains that whilst the US navy claimed 3 naval victories, overall, this "small" war (which was simply an irritation to Britain) was a disaster for the US whose commerce was wrecked by the overwhelming naval British strength that strangled the trade of newly independent states of America. The book exposes the folly of voting to wage Naval war but then voting not to pay for it.
It ended in stalemate with an independent & strong Canada,a burnt-out White House and capture/destruction of all the US Navy battle-ships. The origins of the later US Civil War could be said to have been laid in this 1812-15 war.
Great book and I could hardly put it down.
7 of 7 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars A Refreshing Tonic,
This review is from: The Challenge: Britain Against America in the Naval War of 1812 (Hardcover)As others have said, an excellent piece of work that beautifully deconstructs the many American myths and propaganda that surround the War of 1812. I have little to add to the earlier reviews, other than to say that my US friends US hate it :)
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5.0 out of 5 stars At Last,
This review is from: The Challenge: Britain Against America in the Naval War of 1812 (Hardcover)Thanks to Lambert what has long been the property of American historians, the almost forgotten, nearly three year "skirmish" has finally got a British champion that is not only able to sort truth from fiction but also a writer and historian able to write a wonderfully readable book. Having studied the war of 1812 for over three years myself for personal and academic reasons, i cannot rate this book highly enough, for anyone wishing a counter to the many ameri-centric works that are out there this is the book you need to read. It ranks alongside Latimer's book,'1812 War with America' (though Latimer's book expands on many of the issues raised only briefly by Lambert.) A wonderful book and one i would highly recommend, thank you Andrew Lambert.
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The Challenge: Britain Against America in the Naval War of 1812 by Andrew Lambert (Hardcover - 5 April 2012)
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