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5.0 out of 5 stars All the Popes in their context
A very readable history covering 2000 years. All the Popes stories are very interesting and background history given so any layman can understand.
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2.0 out of 5 stars Keep your distance!
Firstly, I'd just like to point out that I'm a huge fan of Duffy's work : "The Stripping of the Altars" is a masterpiece and "The Voices of Morebath" deserves to be in any book collection worthy of the name.

"Saints & Sinners" is nowhere near the same standard, unfortunately. I looked forward to reading this perhaps more than any other history book I've bought...
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5.0 out of 5 stars All the Popes in their context, 3 April 2013
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A very readable history covering 2000 years. All the Popes stories are very interesting and background history given so any layman can understand.
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2.0 out of 5 stars Keep your distance!, 28 Dec 2007
This review is from: Saints and Sinners: A History of the Popes (Yale Nota Bene) (Paperback)
Firstly, I'd just like to point out that I'm a huge fan of Duffy's work : "The Stripping of the Altars" is a masterpiece and "The Voices of Morebath" deserves to be in any book collection worthy of the name.

"Saints & Sinners" is nowhere near the same standard, unfortunately. I looked forward to reading this perhaps more than any other history book I've bought in years and I'm afraid it's a bit of a disappointment. Yes, it's well researched and yes it's readable and, for those reasons at least, enjoyable in it's own way. The major problem, to my mind anyway, is one of objectivity when it comes to the subject matter - in that there's precious little to go round.

"Saints & Sinners" is a blatant revisionist history of the papacy, where bad popes are rehabilitated, their failings and even crimes either apologised for or - worst of all - glossed over or not even referred to. The section on the papacy during the crusades is a whitewash, Duffy all but airbrushes the Vatican out of the Inquisition and as for more modern history, the age of the dictators presents an opportunity for close critical analysis of papal attitudes and behaviour which is passed up in favour of yet more apology and even more whitewash. Institutional anti-Semitism over centuries is hardly mentioned, despite scores of references in papal bulls throughout the ages. The modern pressures on the papacy in an increasingly secular world are left hanging like so many loose ends, missed opportunities to at least add some kind of meaningful analysis to this book.

On the whole, a great shame. Duffy is better than this, believe me. When on form, there is scarcely a living historian who can touch him for sheer ability. He is not on form with "Saints & Sinners".
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4.0 out of 5 stars Very satisfactory and interesting book., 9 Nov 2013
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The contents of this book are very interesting to anyone with a contact with the Christian church. The amount of history is amazing. The authors approach to each of the popes is insightful and sympathetic. Good reading on this subject.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Interesting and informative, 6 Oct 2013
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Interesting and informative history of the popes. Written from an angle sympathetic to Catholic Church, though not uncritical, and no worse for that. A helpful and useful complement to other histories such as John Julius Norwich's book on the history of the popes.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Saints and Sinners, 16 April 2013
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Fascinating topic and somewhat topical
Book in perfect condition
The book that was recommended by a Fr taking a course at Ampleforth Abbey
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2.0 out of 5 stars Too reverential for its own good, 5 July 2010
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Historical books can quite often come undone when an author is blatantly taking sides. "Let the facts speak for themselves" is almost always the best approach, however for a history of the Papacy there are simply too many facts to create a meaningful narrative. This is something that the author admits in the foreword. So there has to be a conscious choice about what facts to use and how to present them.

What we have here is a brave attempt to summarise 2,000 years of religious and political history in about 400 pages. As an overview it's not bad however it is the biased selectiveness that really lets it down. You cannot fit all the good or bad things the Papacy have done in the name of Jesus in 400 pages but what I cannot allow (and this why it gets 2 stars from me) is the bias towards reverence. This book is called "Saints and Sinners" and yet it is about 90% saint and only 10% sinner. Many appalling crimes are ignored completely or glossed over and virtually every cynical move made by the papacy is given a mitigating circumstance. According to this book no pope ever acted in a greedy way or was bellicose they were always forced into it, or it was a final option- so letting them off the hook.

Here is the entire summary of the first crusade-

"By 1099 Jerusalem had been taken and the Muslim population massacred." That's your lot, on this occasion it's actually factually wrong because the crusaders massacred everyone, Christians and Jews too but not a moment is spared to question the fact that a man who was supposed to understand the teachings of Christ had gone so far from "love thy neighbour" that it was now ok to wage a war at his instigation.

Here is the summary of the inquisition-

"...under its fierce scrutiny Catharism shrivelled and faded." Well that's one way to put it. There is one mention of burning heretics but nothing about incarceration of people who have yet to be convicted of anything and no mention of torture. Apologists have pointed out that contemporary kings did worse (which is true) but there is something odious about priests allowing people to be treated this way in the name of Jesus Christ.

Both of the above have been formally apologised for by Pope John Paul II which surely means the author can come down on these crimes harder.

Eamon Duffy spends more time on the Holocaust and has to concede some ground there but implies the Papacy had no real option but to remain neutral and try and help with peace efforts- really? In the face of such obvious evil now is the time for moral equivocation?

He follows up the whole Holocaust and the Papacy debate with this line-
"Even while Europe was plunged into total war, however, theological renewal had begun..."So that's ok then.

It is telling that in the index there is no listing for the inquisition nor the holy alliance (the Vatican's secret service with an illustrious history of espionage and assasinations).

What is in this book isn't quite a whitewash, or factually all wrong, the major problem is the writer has not been as unbiased as they should or could have been. There needs to be far more balanced information for this to be a history book because at the moment this is a hagiography of 262 (mainly) old men, some good, some bad and a healthy amount incompetent. That's the story that needs to be told, not this one.

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2 of 5 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Excellent History, 16 May 2010
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A really useful reference/history book. Well written, entertaining and puts the current hoo-haa regarding clerical sexual abuse into perspective. 'Let him who is without sin cast the first stone'!
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