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5.0 out of 5 stars The art of War
"Ultimate excellence lies, not in winning every battle But in defeating the enemy without ever fighting"
This book by John Minford gives a concise and informative look at Master Wu's "Art of War" using the standard and accepted translation. It is not just a book about war but is a guide to life and this version gives explanations of the text from selected experts...
Published on 4 Feb. 2004 by M. G. Armstrong

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3.0 out of 5 stars A few grains of truth in a lot of chaff
This issue the Running Press Book Publishers is the miniatures edition and can fit in your pocket. You can pull it out anywhere and look studious.

Today many of Sun Tzu quotas are floating around mixed with Shakespeare and the Bible. And as with many of the quote they are out of context and misleading. The quoter usually thinks repeating the word is some sort...
Published on 28 Jun. 2005 by bernie


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51 of 56 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars The art of War, 4 Feb. 2004
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"Ultimate excellence lies, not in winning every battle But in defeating the enemy without ever fighting"
This book by John Minford gives a concise and informative look at Master Wu's "Art of War" using the standard and accepted translation. It is not just a book about war but is a guide to life and this version gives explanations of the text from selected experts but firstly gives you the raw treatise allowing you to make up your own mind of the meaning. It is extremely informative without getting boring and gives you brief histories and background information integral to the treatise. Don't be put off at the thought of having to read difficult chinese names or words as a quick guide to correct pronunciation is included and will help in reading and understanding the informative introduction and histories. This book makes what may seem a daunting subject to some, a very easy to understand and enjoyable book.
This book will be of interest to both those looking for information on Chinese history but mainly to those looking for a guide to life. I, myself am not a historian and hated History lessons at school but the History subject matter in this book is interesting without over examination and doesn't have lengthy and irrelevant text. I'm also not much of a reader (more of a PS2 man) but found the book to be intriguing and hard to put down.
Interesting subject matter simply put, concisely explained with commentary from the leading experts and published by quality publishers Penguin. 2000 year old wisdom that is pertinent in modern life.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Classic work of strategy, often misapplied, 11 Feb. 2004
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Martin Turner "Martin Turner" (Marlcliff, Warwickshire, England) - See all my reviews
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The Art of War is one of the foundational works of strategic thinking. Essentially it is a treatise on the principles of warfare based on ancient Chinese military history.
The growth in academic and business study of strategy has given this book hugely increased popularity over the last twenty years. However, strategic principles are often extracted and applied haphazardly, based on what the reader was looking for.
It is important to keep this book in its context. Some of the principles - such as 'to win without fighting is the highest achievement' are obviously of general applicability. Others, such as 'when plumes of dust are seen, chariots are approaching' are clearly of little relevance to modern business. However, when faced with 'in a forced march of 100 li the commander will fall', you may decide that there is a useful application or you may not.
Likewise, you may find it entertaining to quote Sun Tzu to your colleagues, and it may give a flavour of authority to your strategy proposals. If you do so, though, you ought to recognise that your application is your own interpretation, not something intrinsic to the text.
If you are reading this book because you want to learn about Chinese military history, or because you want to understand the way early strategists thought, I believe you will find it enjoyable and rewarding.
On the other hand, if you are using this book as a way of developing your own strategic skills, I would recommend that you read it in conjunction with Mintzberg, Ahlstrand and Lampel's 'Strategy Safari', and particularly note the critique of the Positioning school of strategy. The dangers are all too great of finding in Sun Tzu echoes of ideas that you already hold, and then imagining that these are supported by ancient authority.
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4.0 out of 5 stars Translated for the poetry of it, 10 Nov. 2009
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This is a great translation of The Art of War but I would strongly recommend reading the Lionel Giles translation first or at least doing a search for the text file online as a backup (it's way out of copyright). It's not that this version is too tricky, it's just that it's a direct translation that tries to maintain the rhythm of the original. Lionel Giles' translation is a more "meat and potatoes" version.

Anyone that thinks this book isn't relevant for modern warfare or business should read a different translation. What is written here can be applied to all aspects of your life. If you want to lose weight, your hunger is your opponent. If you want to sell something, the customer is your opponent. Sun Tzu said, "..attack that which he is obliged to rescue.." which translates to "buy this software and your children will be safe online" or "buy this and you will get thinner".
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5.0 out of 5 stars Perfect edition of the Art of War., 9 Dec. 2013
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This edition (or at least the book I received) is the finest version of the Art of War I have read. The physical book quality is great, the pages have a rough edge to them giving it a more ancient feel. The best part of the book is the notes provided by the author, he provides the original text and then an annotated version with sourced notes.

The notes expand on the text and provide a nice historical element to the book, as a lover of history I found this great, learning about many of the methods, army's and leaders of ancient china. Although the Art of War is primarily suited to pre-modern era (ancient world, medieval world etc) it still has relevant lessons to modern strategy, such as the important of supplies, of terrain and combat.

This is a wonderful read for those interested in military strategy or for the historical elements of this ancient Chinese text.
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3.0 out of 5 stars A few grains of truth in a lot of chaff, 28 Jun. 2005
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bernie "xyzzy" (Arlington, Texas) - See all my reviews
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This issue the Running Press Book Publishers is the miniatures edition and can fit in your pocket. You can pull it out anywhere and look studious.

Today many of Sun Tzu quotas are floating around mixed with Shakespeare and the Bible. And as with many of the quote they are out of context and misleading. The quoter usually thinks repeating the word is some sort of magic.

It is easy with hindsight and a closer look at the future to dismiss Sun Tzu as his practical tactical knowledge is of a time and place long gone. He spends a lot of time on the use of weapons and information gathering techniques of the time. This can be interesting in a historical context; other wise it is quite amusing.

Oh yes those grains of truth I mentioned, well they may sound like clichés but they are still viable. "Know your enemy and know yourself". Others are just practical sense and statistical outcomes that you learn in any military training. I could go through the list, but again that is why you buy the book.

Now just as you decide that the book is outdated for any practical purposes today we have artillery and now stealth and precision, the reminder that "no two wars are alike" and "it is flexibility that makes a difference" is being shown today to still be true. Even in today's wars there is a need for good intelligence and deception. We put a lot of time and energy into Psy-Ops. Sun Tzu shows the advantage in specialized units and crack troops.

I have spent several years in the military and in business and can say this book is a nice addition to history, otherwise of very little value to today's world for war.

As a Project Manager I can tell you that this book has little value to today's business. Projects are about efficiency, cooperation, and ROI not war.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Art of War, 23 Jan. 2011
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Very interesting book, can hardly believe something written so long ago can still have a relevant place in life in the 21st Century. Wonderful, wise words of wisdom. Worth purchasing not only for the poetic style but for the amazing learning. Especially helpful in putting one's mind straight when in a conflict with everyday living, like neighbours etc. This book is a gem - really putting conflict into perspective and advising one how to change one's view.
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18 of 22 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Very interesting if a little generic, 9 April 2005
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This text about battles is worth reading for anyone who comes into any form of conflict. Much of the text is still directly relevant ("to defeat your enemy without fighting is the highest excellence") and some of it is, on the face of it, much less so (like the section about determining whether chariots or foot soldiers are approaching). Even the less obviously useful passages can impart a degree of insight if they are considered carefully (think in terms of looking ahead to see what is coming, be it a political wrangle at work or the literal horse-drawn chariots).
It's also a useful text to quote when uttering surreal-sounding quips in meetings at work. I'm glad this is on my shelf.
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5.0 out of 5 stars All warfare is based on deception, 29 Dec. 2005
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For Sun Tzu, warfare is above all a question of psychology, before strategy and tactics come into play.
The art of war is the art to deceive: 'Apparent confusion is a product of good order; apparent cowardice, of courage; apparent weakness, of strength'.
Sun Tzu is a master of psychological warfare: sap the morale of your enemy and be cleverer (wisdom, not force alone).
For him, 'supreme excellence is to subdue the enemy without fighting.'
His strategy is based on foreknowledge (spying) in order to know the strength and weaknesses (political, geographical, defensive, offensive) of your enemy. And if you are not strong enough, you should be cleverer through diplomacy.
His tactics are flexibility, gaining the initiative and not fighting a protracted war.
This text is rightly a classic. People who launch 'preventive wars' should follow a few of Sun Tzu's recommendations.
On the other hand, it tells a lot about mankind that one of the first classics of literature doesn't have the title 'The Art of Peace'.
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4.0 out of 5 stars I've only started reading it..., 26 Sept. 2011
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i've only read the first chapter yet but already feel like i've learnt something. the wording is simple to understand but not childish. i also like that it's a direct translation of Sun Tzu, not a rambling essay-like book, where the author/translator just provides a commentary of the original.

i think there are better versions available, but this is excellent for someone reading 'the art of war' for the first time.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Really pleased, 14 Jan. 2012
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Bought this book as a present for my husband as he has always wanted to read it and he loves it. A really easy version to read. Product arrived quickly. Would recommend it to anyone wanting to read this book.
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