Whooooooooooooooooooooooooosh! There go my arguments flying past S.Varga's head!!!
If you read back you will see that it is solely P.Edwards - a fan of the film - who has asserted and implied that the only explanation for disliking this film is stupidity. I have NO problem whatsoever accepting that many people enjoy this film. But I sure as hell don't think their enjoyment serves as comment on their intelligence or not, as the case may be.
And I picked up on P.Edwards' spelling errors to highlight the irony of him calling other people stupid. But on further reflection they are worse than mere "spelling errors." Three different spellings for "intelligent" in one post - all of them wrong? Well, I will say that that is a sign of some level of stupidity! Certainly, it's not reflective of the intelligent "intellectuals" this film is supposedly aimed at.
And no-one has really argued my points. For example, P.A Clarke's comments appear to be partially in response to some of mine? But they're pretty much "no it isn't" or "yes it is" type responses which offer no analysis of his own and consequently no room for further debate. And you'll notice the further constructive critical comments from John Colman and A L Harvey. Contrast that to the number of 5 star reviews which label those who dislike the film as "stupid" or "not clever enough to follow the plot", then I think it's clear who struggles to accept other opinions of this film!
I happen to agree that demonstrations of good grammar and spelling are important indicators of intellect. Self-proclamation, on the other hand, betrays insecurity.
Personally I am extremely encouraged to read about so many people excited about stimulating their intellect and questioning their worldview. I'm sure that, if they haven't already done so, they will discover that there have been many excellent books written about psychology and the unconscious mind. May I recommend to them the author Malcolm Gladwell who I personally find extremely accessible and stimulating.
With this in mind, I cannot deride Hollywood for making popcorn movies. There's no reason why the cinema should not remain a venue for mindless entertainment. True intellectual stimulation is always readily available through other media.
Mr John Edward Colman - good grammar and spelling are also an indication of a thorough education - which is not necessarily in step with a person's intellect. The tirades - mainly it has to be said, by those who wish to lavish the steaming pile "Inception" with 5+ stars - against those that would give it one star (or less) are not any part of stimulating one's intellect or worldview.
I think your comment about Hollywood and popcorn movies is fair enough but would add "as long as it is not all that they make". Which, sadly, seems to be more and more the case. And then there are popcorn movies that are "okay" and those that are "dull and been done before so many times". I'm struggling to find examples, but perhaps Inception is mainly in the latter camp.
BTW - don't buy one of these : Palm Tree - 3ft Inflatable I did - and it was a big (well 3 feet) mistake.
I relent to your more accurate assessment on education versus intellect. One may neither also jump to conclusions that english is the first language of the other party, although having said that I have witnessed contributions from foreigners whose written english is superior to that of many a native speaker.
Regarding my comment about Hollywood; absolutely, I want to be entertained and that doesn't mean that the public should only be subjected to dull and formulated movies, and neither does it mean that every film should make the audience work hard to follow it.
I confess that I enjoy the popcorn films; SALT, Knight and Day, Taken and some romantic comedies. If I want to see something more sophisticated I'll watch a french film. Some of these are immensely satisfying (e.g. The Page Turner) while others are jaw-droppingly open-ended (Cache/Hidden). I even enjoyed The Tourist which was a remake of Anthony Zimmer - even though the film failed to reward the viewer with any sort of payoff whatsoever.
And if clever equalled popular, we'd all be watching season 7 of Arrested Development and wearing Firefly pyjamas.
Not sure if your "...people allowed to have an opinion?" and "Idiot" etc. were aimed at me - if so, and IF it was related to the BAFTAs being biased etc. comment - my fail - I didn't actually mean that - it was a (poor) defense against accusations of biase.
I should have put 'doubtless "biased"'.
I guess there will always be an element of national favouritism - but I'm not shouting one way or the other about it.
And either way - yes I believe people are allowed to have an opinion and I encourage them to share them.
and if your comments were aimed at me Mr M Graham, I couldn't care less, because it is clearly obvious that people are NOT allowed to have an opinion and this theory is backed up fully by the fact that anybody that dislikes Inception is a bellend!
Of all time? Now as far as delusions go, that's about as deluded as you can get. I agree that it is a great movie, but for me and possibly many others it will not necessarily make our movie collections. Cinematography, as acclaimed over the weekend Oscars, is where this movie really comes into its own.
It's more of a modern day Matrix to me, a good bit of fun.
Yet another precious comment above from an even more precious person, who cannot take constructive criticism of a damn film! Of course it's easier for these same people to take the ad hominem route than engage in debate and accept that we don't all have the same views!!!!
And "no wonder left!?" What, you mean from a film that borrows heavily from previous movies and itself takes a poor stab at adding to the mysteries of dreams!? Heck, I'm glad I'm not so easily pleased - I'd far rather continue to be discerning and critical in my tastes thanks!
I love Dicaprio and Nolan but I came out of this movie thinking 7-8/10 at the most, after watching Shutter Island earlier in the year (saw them both at the cinema) I was pretty much astounded when I saw how much more money inception made, I don't view people who think inception was better as idiots though; different people have different opinions, get over it!
"When you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect."
Something tells me that you're doing the total opposite.