This is where my Sepultura collection ends, as I have no desire to listen to their utter crap, nu-metal albums since they produced 'Roots'. As far as a Sepultura album goes, this is OK - OK riffs, OK vocals etc. The tribal stuff they got going on here is pretty cool, and for me, makes it the more interesting. I really dont't know why people make such a fuss about how great this album is, I mean it's not exactly ground breaking is it? Sepultura should stick to thrash, MUCH more enjoyable. 'Beneath The Remains' is the best Sepultura album by far - THRASH ALL THE WAY!