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Initial post: 20 Jul 2012 12:07:12 BDT
Last night at a movie theatre in Denver at the Dark Knight screening some guy forced his way into a fire exit. threw a tear gas grenade and blasted away 10 people (i think its officially 14 people now). who will get the blame for such idiocy? violent video games?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2176377/The-Dark-Knight-Rises-screening-shooting-Gunman-gas-mask-shoots-dead-10-people--including-children--midnight-screening-Batman-premiere-Denver.html

Posted on 20 Jul 2012 12:12:30 BDT
Equinox80 says:
This has got Call of Duty written all over it!

Posted on 20 Jul 2012 12:12:40 BDT
RAB says:
Don't know who's to blame but it's still a sad story.

Even more sad is the report that at first no-one in the crowd did anything because they assumed it was a publicity stunt. Very sad indictment on pop culture in my opinion, and I'm not normally one to make such claims.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jul 2012 12:16:50 BDT
to be fair though RAB alot of people thought it was part of the screening like a little show so to speak but i hear you, someone must have seen the guy looking like he was gonna do some harm especially after he just bashed his way into the fire exit so the reports say.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jul 2012 12:18:40 BDT
"This has got Call of Duty written all over it!"

Maybe alot of people get their wish and it will be the end of COD lol. i doubt it though, if anything was to happen to games because of something like this it wouldnt be just one that suffers it would be a harsh ban on all violent games.

Posted on 20 Jul 2012 12:22:50 BDT
Last edited by the author on 20 Jul 2012 12:23:10 BDT
Read about this earlier today. I have a morbid fascination with Daily Mail readers as they tend to live their lives in bubbles. This comment on the link in the OP is the kind of thing that concerns me:

"What is with the "only in America" comments. So shootings never happen over here then, because we`re all so law abiding are we ? The only thing I wish for, is that we had a "second ammendment" so we could legally hold weapons so we could shoot back, instead of just being targets for the garbage in our society.
- Brian, Lincoln, 20/7/2012 11:28"

At what point would everyone being able to purchase a gun and legally using it in defence actually help? Moron!

Posted on 20 Jul 2012 12:30:07 BDT
Trigger says:
I was gonna make a cheap joke about the guy having read some of the good-but-not-great reviews, but it's a huge shame and stuff like this shouldn't happen. I hope the plucker took his own life too.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jul 2012 12:32:11 BDT
RAB says:
I don't. I hope he gets put away for a long time with it playing on his conscience. Killing yourself is the easy way out in this sort of situation.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jul 2012 12:32:47 BDT
Last edited by the author on 20 Jul 2012 12:33:06 BDT
I say if anyone wants to hold and shoot off a gun to kill or hurt someone, let them.

Stick them on the front lines of armies and let them serve as cannon fodder.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jul 2012 12:34:38 BDT
I'd argue that someone that can do that has no conscience so putting them in prison and giving them time to think on it, will only make them more of a nut case.

A slow painful death would be better I think.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jul 2012 12:35:04 BDT
RAB says:
Only thing wrong with that is that it not only puts them on an undeserved pedastal by allowing them to serve in the forces, I highly doubt those sorts of people are the ones likely to follow orders and it could go wrong very quickly.

Unless you piled them into a plane with parachutes and a week's worth of rations, dropped them over Afghan and said "good luck lads." Then I'd agree. Trial by combat and all that.

Posted on 20 Jul 2012 12:35:09 BDT
MintFox says:
No one should get the blame for this but the individual who took it upon himself to do it. no doubt that anybody with an agenda will point the finger at whatever it is they are manning a crusade about. Video games, immigration, gods wrath, lack of a god, if he owns a 'dangerous dog' I'm sure someone will use the link.

I've a sneaking suspicion that if he isn't simply a Thomas Hamilton or Dylan Keyboald type that he is probably a delusional comic book fan trying to make himself a super villain. That's right I blame comic books!"

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jul 2012 12:35:47 BDT
RAB says:
A proper life sentence is a slow and painful death. Certainly moreso than putting a gun in your mouth and pulling the trigger.

Posted on 20 Jul 2012 12:36:21 BDT
Trigger says:
"I'd argue that someone that can do that has no conscience so putting them in prison and giving them time to think on it, will only make them more of a nut case."

Agreed. The guy's obviously not right in the head, otherwise why else would you shoot up a cinema because you couldn't get a ticket?! He's a drain on resources, a waste of space, so let him take his own life and save anyone the bother of worrying about him.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jul 2012 12:40:42 BDT
Oh I said nothing about them serving. I meant putting them in a place where they have no choice but to move forwards to fight for their lives.

The normandy beach landing would have been so less catastrophic if it were a load of murderers running up it for survival. Let the enemy kill them off and they'll do good at the same time I say.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jul 2012 12:42:04 BDT
"I hope the plucker took his own life too."

He was arrested shortly afterwards and is in police custody. The story goes on to say a appartment block had to be evactuated because he claimed he had explosives there, no confirmation on if he was lying or not though.

You do have to laugh at the general American defense to owning guns though, it's usually along the lines of Rich's quote above, "the criminals can get guns so everyone should be able to". Yes criminals can get guns but being that they're illigal it makes it a bit easier for the police to work out who's a criminal or not. Plus I would imagine it takes considerable effort and expense on the part of the criminal to actually get hold of one, allowing anyone to walk into a shop, fill out a aplication and then 3 days later have their very own brand new shiny hand cannon does kind of lower the bar as to who can get hold of them. I very much doubt (for 1 example) a depressed and slightly unstable teenager could get hold of a gun in the UK, in America all it takes is 3 days.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jul 2012 12:44:08 BDT
Make that a life sentence with no food, no daylight and no socialising, anything else is a luxury I'd say.

Posted on 20 Jul 2012 12:46:08 BDT
N Thompson says:
Of course the media will leap all over this, sensation sells, and video games is their latest scapegoat it seems.

Anyone with common sense will appreciate that someone who plays games can differentiate between fantasy and reality, and can spend a good deal of leisure time playing violent games and watching violent films without ever committing a violent act in their life.

Unfortunately, there are a few people in society that commit acts like this. They do not think like other humans, or act like them, and so the normal rules of society and acceptable behaviour cannot be applied. Inevitably at some stage in their lives they will commit a violent act regardless of outside influences. Maybe watching something violent will trigger it, who knows, but you won't be able to protect society from it as a whole and it will happen whether they play COD, watch Charles Bronson, or even just tune in to the news or read a newspaper.

Posted on 20 Jul 2012 13:05:35 BDT
Last edited by the author on 20 Jul 2012 13:09:05 BDT
Suitable punishment. 15 minutes locked in a windowless room with the loved ones of the people he murdered. Seriously. Anything else is a let off. Same goes for that nut job in Norway. It's shameful how they've given the Norwegian guy a platform where he can look all smug and full of himself thinking he's got some form of acceptable reason to murder people. Convict him and make the guy suffer properly.

Posted on 20 Jul 2012 13:06:07 BDT
G. Hanks says:
Really sad story,can picture it all a little too clearly than feels comfortable.

Unfortunately the Daily Mail are already pointing to the guy being influenced by Bane because he was wearing a mask. To me this kind of scapegoating really cheapens both the tragic level of the event and the severity of the deed that was committed.

I can imagine that being in a cinema you're bombarded with so much audio and visual as it is that taking in what was happening would have taken longer than the actual event which I'd imagine was pretty quick.

Posted on 20 Jul 2012 13:10:50 BDT
Kind of linked to this.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2176114/NASA-engineers-tongue-cheek-experiment-proves-6-cent-U-S-drivers-sadistic-animal-killers.html

Apparently 6% of US drivers will purposfully swerve their car to try and kill an animal on the side of the road (spider or snake, but still 1% would do it for a tortoise). Isn't intentionally hurting animals one of the early signs of a psychopath? 6% is worryingly high.

Posted on 20 Jul 2012 13:15:11 BDT
Why does anything have to be to blame for it. Whatever happened to just crazy?

Posted on 20 Jul 2012 13:21:42 BDT
DragonsGash says:
I read that J T Ripper had been up all night playing GTA 3 before his first kill. And wasn't Dick Turpin apparently a big Red Dead Redemtion fan?

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jul 2012 13:21:57 BDT
Trigger says:
"Suitable punishment. 15 minutes locked in a windowless room with the loved ones of the people he murdered."

In the short term that might seem fair, but I think probably in the long term family members might come to be disgusted with what they'd done. Exposing people to that kind of thing needlessly cannot be good for the psyche. That being said, if anyone hurt my daughter I would stamp their face into the pavement and gladly go to prison for my crime. I don't want to get into it too much because even just thinking about it makes me angry.

I realise I've just swung left and right in one fell swoop, but there you are. I guess it's easy to be objective about these things when you're a completely disconnected outside observer.

In reply to an earlier post on 20 Jul 2012 13:25:20 BDT
RAB says:
Don't think you've contradicted yourself there at all mate. You've readily admitted your personal reaction would be illegal, after saying you don't think it should be an option to the families affected by this stance.
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