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Initial post: 24 May 2012 10:31:54 BDT
Mark Andrew says:
So its out tomorrow and who pre-ordered? I certainly did and cannot wait until the post man arrives as he should also have Future Soldier also.
I couldnt find another Dragons Dogma topic her on the boards and I went back like 5-6 pages so forgive me if it's already been done.

Anyway this game is all about PAWNS and the customization, and apparently it has a Dragon in it too lol anyway has anyone played the Demo and readied their main character and PAWN for release day?

My main guy looks like Geralt from the Witcher and my PAWN is based on Skyrims' Faendal from Riverwood so he is an Archer. I'm thinking that I need two mages and offense perhaps? Another part of me wants to go all Rogue but I dont know if that is going to be healthy (four archers?).

What do you have planned for your PAWNS?
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In reply to an earlier post on 24 May 2012 10:42:46 BDT
I've got it pre-ordered, no dispatch notice yet and it's from here so doubt I'll be on it tomorrow. Hopefully will at least get it on Saturday though so the Magnificant Spungo and his pawn Hardcore (sorry counldn't resist) will be off adventuring for the weekend. From the reviews I've read you will need a balanced party so 4 archers would be a bad idea.

I think my main character will be a mage maybe specialising as a mystic knight in the end game but apparently you can change your class quite easily letting you try different things if you find you get bored of your current class after a while. If I'm going to be a mage then Hardcore is going to have to be a big burley warrior type to balance it, then for the 2 pick up pawns I'll probably go for offensive warriors or rogue types.

Posted on 24 May 2012 10:54:24 BDT
I got it yesterday and so far it's great, if you played the demo don't worry about spoilers as that's the prologue.

Posted on 1 Jun 2012 09:37:02 BDT
Really enjoying it so far but I haven't played it much yet. My only (picky) gripe is the awful screechy guitar music that accompanies the initial loading screen but it's over mercifully quick after the first time you load the game up.

Posted on 1 Jun 2012 10:49:58 BDT
djburty says:
HOOP DOGG - chaeck out the Nerdy Shores thread as there is a whole lot of chat about DD

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jun 2012 11:01:11 BDT
Trigger says:
Ah, I wondered why no-one was talking about it. I will pick it up down the line - the general consensus on the Eurogamer forum is that it's flawed but it has buckets of personality, and even though Capcom have annoyed me a lot this gen I want to help support new franchises where I can. A lot of people seem to think reviews have been overly harsh to this game.

Posted on 1 Jun 2012 11:34:37 BDT
Icaruschips says:
Got this yesterday, loving it so far as gameplay is concerned, and exploring, it's nice to be like older RPG's where if you aren't a high enough level enemies will slaughter you instead of it holding your hand saying you can't go there yet. I also threw 4 pawns off cliffs by mistake which was brilliant.

But my God the story is unbelievable guff.

Posted on 1 Jun 2012 11:37:00 BDT
Trigger says:
"I also threw 4 pawns off cliffs by mistake which was brilliant."

One might be a mistake. Two at a push. Four is murder, you sick bastard!

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jun 2012 11:39:59 BDT
I've not seen much of the story yet but loving the game so far. The best part has to be the dynamic "boss" battles, I love the way you just run into these huge creatures just wandering the wilderness that result in these epic fights. Last night I was leaving Gran Soren and there was a caravan on the road up to the gates being attacked by goblins, I ran down to help them then half way through the fight a griffon flew down, grabbed the ox pulling the wagon and flew off. Was a proper WTF moment but in a good way.

Posted on 1 Jun 2012 11:40:35 BDT
Last edited by the author on 1 Jun 2012 11:42:10 BDT
Icaruschips says:
My excuse is this:

I've died so many times because I've been flailing around waiting for enemies to stand up, so I decided at cliff-edges I'd pick them up as soon as they're down, throw them off the cliff and move on. However, my Strider pawn and Warrior pawn may get in the way sometimes. Mistakes were made, people were thrown. I'm not sorry. I laughed too much each time to be sorry.

EDIT: Yeah the creatures just wandering is brilliant. I was on top of a mountain area just looking around for things to do, and I looked to the bottom and I seen a troll/ogre/something huge just sitting by a water bed having a fit to itself. Took me 20 minutes to get down to it, seen the size of it up close, promptly turned tail and bravely ran away.

Posted on 1 Jun 2012 11:45:59 BDT
Sir Robin bravey ran away

Posted on 1 Jun 2012 11:56:26 BDT
Jez says:
Sticking my neck out a bit (considering its competition)

But best singleplayer RPG for the PS3 bar none imo. Brilliant and fun combat system, brilliant party AI and innovative pawn system and great free roaming world to explore.

Story is a little bit weak and there are some flaws to the pawn ai at times (pawns not using different arrows for example) and more fleshed out NPCS. Hope some of these things can be sorted in a patch.

For the sequel online co-op with a four player party would be excellent :D

Posted on 1 Jun 2012 12:11:12 BDT
I've not done much of the story myself either as I seem to be just exploring the whole map fighting enemies that destroy me and then trying again until I find a safe route, such is the fun in the game!

So far I'm the weak link in my party as my pawns seem to know what to do before I have a chance to c0ck it up!

Posted on 1 Jun 2012 12:18:37 BDT
Trigger says:
Sounds brilliant; I've heard so much good user feedback about it that it makes me think journalists either missed the point or set out to not like it, being Capcom and all. I will definitely finish Dark Souls first though. I will. Maybe.

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jun 2012 12:32:26 BDT
Did it score that badly critically? It's 76% on 360 and 79% on PS3 on metacritic, they're hardly bad scores. 33 positive reviews, 10 mixed and 1 negative doesn't really paint it in a bad light to me.

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jun 2012 13:02:47 BDT
i think alot of people see it as the critics being harsh because it's not scored as well as skyrim did with the critics when that was released - despite skyrim being fundamentally broken on ps3 until recently, and bugged to hell on pc and 360; whereas DD has been pretty smooth

if skyrim was released as it is now, i.e. working as it should - then the sky-high marks it received and cries of GOTY would have been totally justified - and the current DD scores would look more balanced

eg. how can a potentially brilliant but properly broken game score higher than a very very good + smooth working game?

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jun 2012 13:07:47 BDT
Phil I prefer Dragons Dogma to Skyrim, the reviews seem to miss the point to this game. Focusing more on the story than the actual gameplay and Pawn system which is brilliant!!

Posted on 1 Jun 2012 13:44:26 BDT
djburty says:
"eg. how can a potentially brilliant but properly broken game score higher than a very very good + smooth working game? "

it shouldn't - but then reviewers don't always seem to follow reason - also they don't always play the game through to its conclusion - the brokeness of the ps3 version of skyrim only really became apparent quite a way through the game.

i like dragon's dogma and the pawn system is excellent - i don't think it is quite as good as dark souls, but it is certainly up there with the best ps3 rpgs. reviewers seem to be fairly biased towards certain devs and tend to be harsher towards new IPs as they expect less of a backlash. i've stopped buying games based on reviews, unless the game is broken in some way, due to the amount of times i've disagreed with them

Posted on 1 Jun 2012 13:46:18 BDT
Last edited by the author on 1 Jun 2012 13:47:57 BDT
yeah but stew - you're a proper gamer, 20 plats and all that. DD appears to be propers gamers game rather than skyrim that can be easily platted by the more casual gamer - like me :)

alot of games journalists to me appear to be faily casual gamers too. rarely do they play games to completion/have massive trophy counts etc.

i think what i'm saying is on the whole - skyrim is the better game in that it appeals to a wider range of gamers, for for a proper gamer with more time to invest in games DD will be the more rewarding experience. same with dark souls etc.

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jun 2012 13:54:16 BDT
Last edited by the author on 1 Jun 2012 14:03:24 BDT
I'll take that as a compliment...I guess. ;)

Skyrim got such rave reviews because it was the latest Elder Scrolls game and had been highly anticipated for a couple of years!!
Was the hype justified? I can't say, ask Nick or another massive TES fan.

I'm just surprised that there were so many negative reviews for DD, just because it's new and the reviewers didn't really play it.
Capcom have made what really is a proper RPG and just amazing to play, with no real glitches/problems so far. (after 40 hours of play)

Edit: Phil you can take screenshots in-game from the start menu, i'm sending you one of me taking on a Griffin!! Should help you make your mind up. ;)

Posted on 1 Jun 2012 14:03:42 BDT
now it's all patched up, (and probs works better on ps3 than it does on 360 now lol) skyrim is/was PROPER mint yeah. i reckon it's safe to say i loved/love it more than young nick. i've put roughly 200 hrs into it and highly look forward to the dlc

just ask dave and chrissy too. it is a *brilliant* game, and the impression i got from the DD demo is that skyrim is both more epic than DD and probs more accessible at the same time.

from the demo, and from reading the NS thread i really get the feeling that DD is every bit as good/probs more enjoyable than skyrim once you get your teeth into it.......and so because journos hardly play to completion is the reason DD probs didn't score as high as it might deserve?

Posted on 1 Jun 2012 14:06:40 BDT
Trigger says:
Does Skyrim still have godawful combat though like Oblivion did? I ought to give it a go one day, but I just don't tend to feel interested in Bethesda games.

Posted on 1 Jun 2012 14:12:47 BDT
never played oblivion - but one of the big points they were making before skyrim came out was dual-wielding of 1-handed weapons - so i guess that's new.

there's no denying that skyrim does not have the most sophisticated combat *ever*; it has standard attacks & heavy attacks, in both left and right hand, or two handed weapons with standard and heavy attacks, or stick a shield in your left hand either a 1-handed weapon in the right or a spell....

i thought the combat was fine/good. certainly not poor - and the wepaons certainly had heft - you know when a connection is made, and the physical reaction from who you're hitting is very good.

i've put 200 hours in as a warrior/ranger type and never felt let-down by the combat. the archery in particular is *brilliant*

In reply to an earlier post on 1 Jun 2012 14:13:48 BDT
Last edited by the author on 1 Jun 2012 14:14:08 BDT
yeah stew - i'm gettin DD tomorrow. pawn me biatch!

Posted on 1 Jun 2012 17:46:08 BDT
Cheers djburty, i did wonder why no one was chatting about this game.
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